3 - Data in non-3g service areas ?

fmul9798

Hi - I have my phone working with HSDPA for data access (POP3 and IMAP4) to the internet on 3Pay using their 1GB data add-on. What I find is that when I'm in borderline 3G coverage, the handset drops to just the "G" symbol, indicating plain GPRS coverage. I can make calls, but can't get any data.

I think I read here that 3 use Vodafone for fallback coverage? does anyone know if this includes coverage for data service too? - if so, do I need an additional GPRS connection configured on my phone to support it? I have the regular "3ireland.ie" APN set up on one connection. It works fine in 3G areas via HSDPA, but I can't connect to anything in non-3G areas (tries, but then just fails connection).

Thanks in advance,
-fm

1huge1

Vodafone only let 3 use their 2/2.5g network, not their 3G or HSPDA network.

wirelessdude

i think Voda allow only voice roaming and not data for 3

ianblyth

3 allow people with their "fraudband" modems to drop gack to gprs through vodafone... but on the normal phone accounts... it dosen't. hope that answers your question. whereas your phone can drop back to use the vodafone voice service but not the full gprs...

Sam Vimes

ianblyth wrote: »

3 allow people with their "fraudband" modems to drop gack to gprs through vodafone... but on the normal phone accounts... it dosen't. hope that answers your question. whereas your phone can drop back to use the vodafone voice service but not the full gprs...

that is incorrect:

1 Mobile Broadband 10GB can be used on 3's HSDPA network only. and cannot be used in connection with voice, text or GPRS services.

http://three.ie/broadband/paymonthly.htm

neither the phones nor the modems can use data on vodafone's network

robinph

Sam Vimes wrote: »

neither the phones nor the modems can use data on vodafone's network

I have definately used data on Vodafone when out of Threes coverage, didn't need to change any settings on the phone, didn't get charged anything different for it. I just needed to be a bit more patient with the download speeds.

Sam Vimes

robinph wrote: »

I have definately used data on Vodafone when out of Threes coverage, didn't need to change any settings on the phone, didn't get charged anything different for it. I just needed to be a bit more patient with the download speeds.

i've used data with only gprs coverage too. it works sometimes for some reason but doesn't work most of the time

towel401

I think i was able to send some data on 2G today for a while. no 3G symbol on the phone, might try booting the phone into GSM mode to see if it does anything. using the 1gb prepaid thing

1huge1

Sam Vimes wrote: »

i've used data with only gprs coverage too. it works sometimes for some reason but doesn't work most of the time

Yes I use data when on vodafones 2.5g network on my 3 phone almost daily, Have a certain nack to it,
I can check my gmail and websites perfectly like, though I get charged but very little.
Daily checking of my gmail and the odd site costs me about €1 a month.

Sam Vimes

towel401 wrote: »

I think i was able to send some data on 2G today for a while. no 3G symbol on the phone, might try booting the phone into GSM mode to see if it does anything. using the 1gb prepaid thing

yeah that happens quite regularly but it can't be depended on. a few times i had a frustrating few hours trying to get the net to work because i forgot i'd selected gsm only

towel401

1huge1 wrote: »

Yes I use data when on vodafones 2.5g network on my 3 phone almost daily, Have a certain nack to it,
I can check my gmail and websites perfectly like, though I get charged but very little.
Daily checking of my gmail and the odd site costs me about €1 a month.

you checking through pop3?

jimmycrackcorm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

i've used data with only gprs coverage too. it works sometimes for some reason but doesn't work most of the time

I found the same. It works sometimes.

1huge1

towel401 wrote: »

you checking through pop3?

Well if pop3 is the gmail app then yes.

towel401

1huge1 wrote: »

Well if pop3 is the gmail app then yes.

gmail app dunno what protocol that uses but i wouldnt think it uses a lot of data. they say 49c per mb so it makes sense