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Goalscoring Chart Summer 2008

  • 09-04-2008 10:33am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭


    Chart

    Sav - 1




    Details

    Tue 8th April 19:00 Wesley College -v- The full irish (1-1)
    Scorer(s): Sav


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    updated -

    Goals -
    Dave 2
    Sav 1
    Jules 1


    Assists -

    Lepo 1
    Jules 1
    Eddie 1
    Martin 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    I set Jules goal up last Tuesday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    I set Jules goal up last Tuesday

    what part? im sure the ball came to him from a defender?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    What part? I was the person who passed the ball to him. And I am a defender


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    What part? I was the person who passed the ball to him. And I am a defender

    an opposition defender.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    No I'm pretty sure it was from me. Though maybe I'm remembering wrong. A header or a throw in possibly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    No I'm pretty sure it was from me. Though maybe I'm remembering wrong. A header or a throw in possibly.
    We took a throw in, which almost reached eddie but was half cleared. It fell to you and you passed it to Jules for his wonder strike (or you headed it to him or something). Least that's the way i remember it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    Yeh I headed it to him. Ed had me doubting it there. Cheers Owen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Yeh I headed it to him. Ed had me doubting it there. Cheers Owen

    hmm, spose we will give it to you so!!!! Updated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    If we're gonna keep up the assists thing people will have to shout out pretty soon after the game so we don't forget. Lepo set up my goal tonight. Think Gav set up Eddie's second. Other than that I dont remember


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    I had Eddie setting up 2 though in fairness Iain's beautiful calculation to bounce the ball of your man's hip in just the right way that'd it fall to Eddie on a plate pretty much wraps up the Assist of the Season competition right there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭Idu


    I had Eddie setting up 2 though in fairness Iain's beautiful calculation to bounce the ball of your man's hip in just the right way that'd it fall to Eddie on a plate pretty much wraps up the Assist of the Season competition right there!

    what can I say lads I just see passes other people dont!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    :eek: lads i cannot edit my post to update it??? :(:(:(:(

    here des, will you put this into your first post and delete mine then please, all the work is done for you, but i just dont seem to be allowed to edit!!

    Goals -
    Dave 2
    Eddie 2
    Lepo 2
    Sav 1
    Jules 1
    Gav 1
    Martin 1


    Assists -

    Eddie 3
    Lepo 2
    Jules 1
    Gav 1
    Martin 1
    Ian 1


    so i put down the assists as Eddie 2, Gav, Ian, Lepo, who else was there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    whats up with my posts and not being able to edit them.:o

    anyway, feel free to correct me if these are wrong. i have gav for 3 assists and lepo for one. one back pass, and im not sure who set up gavs, eddie?

    Eddie 3
    Dave 2
    Lepo 2
    Art 2
    Sav 2
    Gav 2
    Martin 2
    Jules 1


    Assists -

    Gav 4.
    Eddie 3
    Lepo 3
    Jules 1
    Martin 1
    Ian 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    4 assists for Gav already. And 3 for Eddie and Lepo. Super stuff from those guys. We're a much bigger danger from corners this season. The standard of defending at corners in this league is rubbish (from us too sometimes) so this is something we should really keep up as its an effortless goal to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    The standard of defending at corners in this league is rubbish (from us too sometimes) so this is something we should really keep up as its an effortless goal to get.

    first off, out set piece play has always been strong, very strong indeed. i cant remember all our goals last season, but from corners and free kicks, we scored about 40% of our goals last season. this year already, including last night, we have scored at least 5 from set pieces (i missed last week so i assume theres more) and are creating alot of chances from them.

    as regards defending, we have only conceded one from a free kick this season and if you count a penalty (??) that is 2! overall last year, i cannot remember conceding that many from set pieces, i would actually say less than 5 to be honest and be sure that im pretty much spot on. we tend to have a good aerial threat over most teams as we have 3 or 4 really good headers of the ball and also seem to be doing well at deliverys.

    overall - yes, massive chance for us to get goals from set pieces and we generally defend them pretty well also. maybe something that with a little bit of work, we can actually seize more chances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Er...since when are we tracking assists?? Is there a prize?
    Really nitpicking now tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Just cos you have none you greedy bastard!:D

    Btw I have 4 assists so far;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Filthy lies :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    Savman wrote: »
    Er...since when are we tracking assists?? Is there a prize?
    Really nitpicking now tbh.

    +1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    Savman wrote: »
    :rolleyes:


    what the hell is that thing?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    what the hell is that thing?!
    :D:D

    No idea, just seen it there and thought this is a good a context to use it as any :o

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    Savman wrote: »
    :D:D

    No idea, just seen it there and thought this is a good a context to use it as any :o

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    pretty damn gay if you ask me sav...pretty damn gay !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Savman wrote: »
    Er...since when are we tracking assists?? Is there a prize?
    Really nitpicking now tbh.

    well lads, sometimes we can all get carried away with goals scorers and say oh look, he aint scored, he is playin s**te!!


    there is no harm what so ever in keeping track of assists, it gives an overall picture of how we are doing as a team and where the goals are coming from better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    well lads, sometimes we can all get carried away with goals scorers and say oh look, he aint scored, he is playin s**te!!

    I think you're referring to me here :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    I think you're referring to me here :p

    of course i am -
    assists for the opposition perhaps :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    well lads, sometimes we can all get carried away with goals scorers and say oh look, he aint scored, he is playin s**te!!


    there is no harm what so ever in keeping track of assists, it gives an overall picture of how we are doing as a team and where the goals are coming from better.
    Guess we'll have to agree to disagree bud. I haven't chimed in on this assists game yet cos I think it's a bit ghey but I'll go with the general consensus on it.

    Get the finger out Shay :pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    of course i am -
    assists for the opposition perhaps :D:D:D

    Nah, I've only 1 of them this season, a penalty which shouldn't have been. Farce to be honest. I'll get my goal before the season is out :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Just to let you know Ed.

    You can't edit your posts because there is an Edit Expire after a certain amount of time.

    Because I have the mod power, I can edit posts at any time of my chosing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    DesF wrote: »

    Because I have the mod power, I can edit posts at any time of my chosing.

    :eek::eek:

    I love Des, he is the best ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    See :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    DesF wrote: »
    See :D

    :eek::eek: abuse of power.
    Im off to feedback to start a complaint thread :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    :eek::eek: abuse of power.
    Im off to feedback to start a complaint thread :pac:

    what, mods abuse their power? never...never i tell you :D *


    dont worry Shay, if you ever score, i promise to start a full thread on it and ask Des to make it a sticky.


    *not talking about des here by the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    what, mods abuse their power? never...never i tell you :D *

    *not talking about des here by the way.

    I have to agree...I have 2 bannings in the last 2 weeks in the soccer forum from a moderator who shall remain nameless.

    thanx4 your time :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I have to agree...I have 2 bannings in the last 2 weeks in the soccer forum from a moderator who shall remain nameless.

    thanx4 your time :pac:
    Remember lads, the Soccer mods are mods in here too ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    I have 2 bannings in the last 2 weeks.

    disgraceful behaviour from a member of our police force. you should be a pillar of society, not a master of havoc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    lol @ Shay.

    The amount of "+1" you posted that night was insane.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    DesF wrote: »
    lol @ Shay.

    The amount of "+1" you posted that night was insane.:D

    It was a great night, ill gratefully use up my final infraction if we win the Champions league :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    well lads, sometimes we can all get carried away with goals scorers and say oh look, he aint scored, he is playin s**te!!


    Ed to be honest I don't think that's true for the vast majority of players in our squad. In 4 seasons I've only ever once heard anyone pass comment on another player's goalscoring rate or overall contribution.

    This team was founded on the notion that the good of the team goes ahead of that of any particular player and also that no player should ever be criticised for failing when they try to do the right thing and only get grief for doing/trying the wrong thing (which is the mantra I repeat most weeks). I think we largely do very well against both of those goals, though I have always thought that publishing a goalscoring chart risks the first of those principles, and that includes during the 2-2.5 seasons I was leading it. At that time I accepted the consensus that tracking goalscoring was inevitable but I don't see any real need for tracking assists - it can be pretty misleading and only tells half the story = my vote is against it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    At the end of the day, I can see for myself who is playing well, who isn't, who is pulling their weight, who isn't.

    It's how I pick the team, it's how I've always I said I pick the team.

    Players are in the side on merit.

    Having said that, I have no real issue with lists being kept tbh. But I won't be checking it every tuesday afternoon to see who has the most assists.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    Don't see any harm in it at all tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Don't see any harm in it at all tbh.

    yep, its only all a bit of fun really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    Yeh a bit of competition is healthy even as part of the team mentality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    Comments like "he aint scored, he is playin s**te!! " don't inspire confidence that it's just for fun but if that's a misinterpretation on my part, which it may well be, then fair enough.

    Personally I think tracking assists is just too misleading to be useful - if a lad plays a simple ball to Messi 30 yards out and he then beats 3 men and finishes that initial pass hardly created the goal. If that fella had done the beating of the 3 men himself and then laid it off for a tap-in, that assist was a bigger deal. If that fella missed the tap-in your man had still done his bit.

    Dave had a blinder last night and played quality balls that should have led to goals at least 4 times but none of those were converted - for me the assists table is meaningless cos it can't reflect that, but if it's just for the craic of tracking it then I get it and fair enough.


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