2008 Premiership Round 3

hanton12

Friday 4 April
Western Bulldogs v St Kilda @ Telstra Dome 7.40PM (9.40AM GMT)

Saturday 5 April
North Melbourne v Hawthorn @ Telstra Dome 2.10PM (4.10AM GMT)
West Coast v Fremantle @ Subiaco 2.10PM (7.10AM GMT) Setanta Sports 2 7.00AM
Brisbane v Sydney @ Gabba 7.10PM (10.10AM GMT) Setanta Sports 2 10.00AM
Essendon v Carlton @ MCG 7.10PM (9.10AM GMT)

Sunday 6 April
Geelong v Melbourne @ Skilled Stadium 1.10PM (3.10AM GMT)
Richmond v Collingwood @ MCG 2.10PM (4.10AM GMT)
Adelaide v Port Adelaide 4.10PM (7.40AM GMT) Setanta Sports 2 7.30AM

*check those times too, the local times are right, but with the daylight saving time kicking in my maths and stuff is gone to pot in calculating GMT times for the games.


Audio on afl.com.au through the live gamecentre links on the right hand side of the homepage.

Weekend highlights on Setanta Sports 2, Monday 7th at 6PM (and probably TG4 around 11pm on Wednesday night)


My picks for the weekend
Bulldogs v St Kilda: Doggies
Roos v Hawthorn : Hawks
West Coast v Fremantle : Eagles
Brisbane v Sydney : Lions
Essendon v Carlton : Bombers
Geelong v Melbourne: Cats
Richmond v Collingwood : Pies
Adelaide v Port Adelaide : Crows

some difficult choices, but thats what happens on Rivalry round. Can see tha saints winning, Freo could well do the Eagles, never know with Sydney, and Power will want to kick start their year.

Brian017

Bulldogs v St Kilda: Saints
Roos v Hawthorn : Hawks
West Coast v Fremantle : Eagles
Brisbane v Sydney : Swans
Essendon v Carlton : Bombers
Geelong v Melbourne: Cats
Richmond v Collingwood : Pies
Adelaide v Port Adelaide : Crows

Skittlebrau

Bulldogs v St Kilda: Doggies
Roos v Hawthorn : Hawks
West Coast v Fremantle : Eagles
Brisbane v Sydney : Swans
Essendon v Carlton : Bombers
Geelong v Melbourne: Cats
Richmond v Collingwood : Pies
Adelaide v Port Adelaide : Crows

Quite a few games that could go either way this week I reckon.

Xavi6

Bulldogs v St Kilda: Saints
Roos v Hawthorn : Hawks
West Coast v Fremantle : Eagles
Brisbane v Sydney : Lions
Essendon v Carlton : Bombers
Geelong v Melbourne: Cats
Richmond v Collingwood : Pies
Adelaide v Port Adelaide : Crows

I expect a cricket score in the Geelong game.

hanton12

6 goal win for the bulldogs, great second half performance seeing them through. Akermanis seemed to have a god game, mentioned a bit on radio and scored a few goals.

Xavi6

WESTERN BULLDOGS 1.2, 6.6, 11.9, 19.11 (125)
ST KILDA 7.3, 9.6, 10.8, 13.9 (87)

Saints just collapsed having been 37 points up afer the first quarter. Credit to the Bulldogs but that's a crappy start to my footy tipping week.

Xavi6

Not a happy bunny at all this afternoon. Another horrible performance from the Eagles in the Western Derby. Trailed for most of the game and never looked like winning, although the umpires didn't do us any favours whatsoever.

Having kicked 7.2 in the WAFL last week, McKinley didn't look out of place at AFL level and got a couple of goals. Kerr was his usual busy self but tried to do too much at times.

Poor game of football with a lot of basic errors but the marks from Pavlich, Kerr and Hayden were quality.

Xavi6

Absolute cracker tonight between the Bombers and the Blues with Essendon eventually coming through by 16 points, 150 to 134.

Hawks overran the Roos earlier, and the Swans lead the Bears by 2 goals at the half.

Xavi6

Results for Round 3

* Western Bulldogs19.11 (125) def. St. Kilda 13.9 (87)
* 7:40pm Telstra Dome

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Western Bulldogs 1.2 6.6 11.9 19.11 (125)
St. Kilda 7.3 9.6 10.8 13.9 (87)
Goals Scorers
Western Bulldogs St. Kilda
Player Goals Player Goals
Ryan Griffen 3 Justin Koschitzke 3
Mitch Hahn 3 Nick Riewoldt 2
Jason Akermanis 3 Stephen Milne 2
Jarrod Harbrow 2 Luke Ball 2
Josh Hill 2 Adam Schneider 1
Adam Cooney 2 Jason Gram 1
Robert Murphy 1 Leigh Montagna 1
Cameron Wight 1 Fraser Gehrig 1
Scott Welsh 1
Will Minson 1

* Hawthorn15.12 (102) def. North Melbourne 13.8 (86)
* 2:10pm Telstra Dome

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Hawthorn 1.3 7.5 9.9 15.12 (102)
North Melbourne 4.6 7.7 12.8 13.8 (86)
Goals Scorers
Hawthorn North Melbourne
Player Goals Player Goals
Lance Franklin 5 Corey Jones 3
Jarryd Roughead 4 Leigh Brown 2
Michael Osborne 3 Shannon Grant 2
Jordan Lewis 1 David Hale 1
Luke Hodge 1 Matt Campbell 1
Brad Sewell 1 Lindsay Thomas 1
Nathan Thompson 1
Aaron Edwards 1
Brady Rawlings 1


* Fremantle12.15 (87) def. West Coast 10.13 (73)
* 5:10pm Subiaco

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Fremantle 3.2 8.5 10.8 12.15 (87)
West Coast 3.5 5.9 8.10 10.13 (73)
Goals Scorers
Fremantle West Coast
Player Goals Player Goals
Matthew Pavlich 5 Ben McKinley 3
Jeff Farmer 2 Quinten Lynch 2
Des Headland 1 David Wirrpanda 1
Ryan Crowley 1 Shannon Hurn 1
David Mundy 1 Beau Waters 1
Peter Bell 1 Matt Priddis 1
Aaron Sandilands 1 Brad Ebert 1
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* Sydney13.10 (88) def. Brisbane 10.11 (71)
* 7:10pm Gabba

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Sydney 3.3 7.4 10.6 13.10 (88)
Brisbane 1.2 5.4 7.7 10.11 (71)
Goals Scorers
Sydney Brisbane
Player Goals Player Goals
Michael O'Loughlin 2 Daniel Bradshaw 5
Jarrad McVeigh 2 Lachie Henderson 2
Jarred Moore 2 Jonathan Brown 1
Ryan O'Keefe 2 Tim Notting 1
Barry Hall 2 Justin Sherman 1
Amon Buchanan 1
Ed Barlow 1
Brett Kirk 1
April 5, 2008
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* Essendon23.12 (150) def. Carlton 21.8 (134)
* 7:10pm MCG

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Essendon 6.4 11.8 17.11 23.12 (150)
Carlton 5.2 9.4 18.6 21.8 (134)
Goals Scorers
Essendon Carlton
Player Goals Player Goals
Matthew Lloyd 4 Brendan Fevola 8
Mark McVeigh 4 Chris Judd 2
Sam Lonergan 2 Matthew Kreuzer 2
Andrew Lovett 2 Nick Stevens 2
Angus Monfries 2 Richard Hadley 1
David Hille 1 Bryce Gibbs 1
Bachar Houli 1 Brad Fisher 1
Damien Peverill 1 Jordan Bannister 1
Alwyn Davey 1 Andrew Carrazzo 1
Kyle Reimers 1 Marc Murphy 1
Adam McPhee 1 Eddie Betts 1
Patrick Ryder 1
Adam Ramanauskas 1
Jason Laycock 1
April 6, 2008
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* Geelong16.16 (112) def. Melbourne 12.10 (82)
* 1:10pm Skilled Stadium

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Geelong 4.4 8.11 13.14 16.16 (112)
Melbourne 3.4 6.6 10.8 12.10 (82)
Goals Scorers
Geelong Melbourne
Player Goals Player Goals
Tom Hawkins 5 Cameron Bruce 3
Cameron Mooney 2 Lynden Dunn 2
Cameron Ling 2 Cale Morton 2
Steve Johnson 2 David Neitz 1
Gary Ablett 1 Brad Green 1
Mathew Stokes 1 Paul Wheatley 1
Mark Blake 1 Brad Miller 1
Darren Milburn 1 Jeff White 1
Paul Chapman 1
April 6, 2008
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* Collingwood18.14 (122) def. Richmond 11.12 (78)
* 2:10pm MCG

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Collingwood 5.2 11.7 15.9 18.14 (122)
Richmond 1.1 4.5 9.10 11.12 (78)
Goals Scorers
Collingwood Richmond
Player Goals Player Goals
Anthony Rocca 3 Adam Pattison 2
Paul Medhurst 3 Kayne Pettifer 2
Dale Thomas 3 Matthew Richardson 1
Travis Cloke 2 Jake King 1
John Anthony 2 Nathan G. Brown 1
Leon Davis 1 Chris Newman 1
Nick Maxwell 1 Mitch Morton 1
Josh Fraser 1 Richard Tambling 1
Ben Johnson 1 Graham Polak 1
Cameron Wood 1

* Adelaide12.13 (85) def. Port Adelaide 11.13 (79)
* 4:40pm AAMI Stadium

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
Adelaide 2.3 4.8 8.11 12.13 (85)
Port Adelaide 2.3 4.7 7.12 11.13 (79)
Goals Scorers
Adelaide Port Adelaide
Player Goals Player Goals
Simon Goodwin 3 Shaun Burgoyne 4
Richard Douglas 3 Chad Cornes 2
Bernie Vince 2 Daniel Motlop 2
Jonathon Griffin 1 Travis Boak 1
Tyson Edwards 1 Dean Brogan 1
Andrew McLeod 1 David Rodan 1
Brett Burton 1

hanton12

Xavi6 wrote: »

Hawks overran the Roos earlier, and the Swans lead the Bears by 2 goals at the half.

still stuck in the past eh Xavi?

most got a good few right in the tipping this week anyway.

Eagles were ****e again against the dockers. really scrappy game. McKinley did well alright. Main difference tho was a power scoring physical forwad like Pavlich. Hansen was poor again, and Lynch was in and out of the game.

Hawkins looks to have really filled the Nathan Ablett void for the cats anyway. Looking like he'll be a serious player. Collingwood and Hawthorn still motoring away nicely anyway.

redspider

Xavi6 wrote: »

Results for Round 3 ....

Thanks for that, and goalscorers and quarter stats as well.

Geelong are looking very strong.

Here is the ladder:

Pos 	Team 	 	Pts 	G 	W 	L 	D 	%
1 	Geelong 	12 	3 	3 	0 	0 	160.26
2 	Hawthorn 	12 	3 	3 	0 	0 	157.94
3 	W.Bulldogs 	12 	3 	3 	0 	0 	149.28
4 	Sydney 	 	8 	3 	2 	1 	0 	141.50
5 	Adelaide 	8 	3 	2 	1 	0 	130.15
6 	Collingwood 	8 	3 	2 	1 	0 	126.25
7 	St Kilda 	8 	3 	2 	1 	0 	101.54
8 	Essendon 	8 	3 	2 	1 	0 	92.02
9 	Fremantle 	4 	3 	1 	2 	0 	90.88
10 	N.Melbourne 	4 	3 	1 	2 	0 	90.32
11 	Brisbane 	4 	3 	1 	2 	0 	88.69
12 	Richmond 	4 	3 	1 	2 	0 	83.23
13 	West Coast 	4 	3 	1 	2 	0 	75.00
14 	Carlton 	0 	3 	0 	3 	0 	77.60
15 	Port Adelaide 	0 	3 	0 	3 	0 	75.30
16 	Melbourne 	0 	3 	0 	3 	0 	46.37

redspider

redspider

I see that O'hAilpin didn play, and Martin Clarke was out again. Are either of them injured or are they dropped?

By the way, whats does Dream Team (DT) and Supercoach (SC) stats mean in relation to players stats? I take it they are 'formulas' for measuring the performances of players, but are they accurate and do people use them?

eg: Martin Clarke

Goals 	Kicks 	Handballs 	Disposals 	Marks 	Goals 	Behinds 	Tackles 	Hitouts 	FF 	FA 	DT * 	SC *
 Total 	1 	4 	4 	8 	2 	0 	0 	2 	0 	0 	2 	28 	27

Redspider

Skittlebrau

Not sure which Dream Team the DT relates to but the Super Coach one is the Herald Sun's Supercoach Fantasy Football comp. It's each player's score for the week.

Fantasy Football (or Dream Teams as they call them over here) are massive and the Supercoach one is probably the most popular. Before the season started SEN (Sports Radio) had a week devoted to Supercoach and what players were good value.

The scoring system is quite detailed but basically players get points for possessions, kicks, handballs, marks, goals etc and lose points for clangers (kicking the ball directly to the other team) etc.

I'm doing it this year but it's bloody hard. The FoxSports one we're doing here is a lot easier.

Xavi6

I'm doing the Super Coach one too and it's very very detailed. As mentioned, the Fox Sports one is easier so I thought it'd be a good place for the forum to start.

I actually haven't a clue what the story with Clarke is. I'll have a dig around.

hanton12

Clarke played for the reserves last week, and was expected back inot the first squad for this weeks game, so maybe he is still just dropped form the team. Hopefully he regains his good form anyway and gets back into the side.

redspider

Thanks for the info on Clarke.

Skittlebrau wrote: »

Fantasy Football (or Dream Teams as they call them over here) are massive and the Supercoach one is probably the most popular.

I see. So do people/analysts/experts put much credence into them, ie: using them to show who is the better performing player or not, or is it 'an inexact science'?

For example, I see a lot of emphasis on disposal stats, kicks and handballs, but if a player is taking many safe options with their kicks and lots of short handballs when a better player may be taking the more riskier passes, etc. You know the way it is with stats, they can be deceiving and tell only part of the story.

Btw, Xavi, were you at the WCE match? What do you think their chances are of winning? Are these blips or is it more a general malaise?

redspider

Xavi6

redspider wrote: »

Btw, Xavi, were you at the WCE match? What do you think their chances are of winning? Are these blips or is it more a general malaise?

redspider

I wasn't unfortunately. I had to go to a convention for work.

It's most definitely not a blip. The depth of the squad just isn't there after losing the likes of Judd and Cousins. Even Rowan Jones was a starter last year and he retired. These players haven't been suitably replaced.

Young players such as Priddis are having to take on a lot more responsibility this year and they are big shoes to fill. Plus the lack of a consistent goal kicker is doing us no favours with Quinten Lynch as unreliable as they come and Mark Le Cras is no superstar.

It's a bit of a transitional year/end of an era in many ways so making the eight would be a good achievement.

redspider

Xavi6 wrote: »

It's most definitely not a blip.
It's a bit of a transitional year/end of an era in many ways so making the eight would be a good achievement.

Yeah, that seems to be a reasonable assessment. I agree, it is hard to replace good players. At the moment, I cant see anyone beating Geelong to the premiership but its early days and a long season and there are likely to be at least a couple of pivotal tight matches with just a few points in them.