what is the minimum salery increase?

hel_hev

i know there is a certain amount of salery increase everyone gets for cost of living etc ...
if your getting paid like 22500 what would be the minimum increase i could get ...
( i am trying to figure out whether i just got the minimum or anything extra in my salery increase) ...

bluefinger

the latest sustaing progress payment (think that's what you're referring to) was 2.5% . just divide your old salary by 100 and multiply by 2.5. That should be your increase. anything over that is extra. Although the latest payment was due a couple of months back so you might have got some arrears, hence the extra amount.

hel_hev

that would work out only 562.5 ... am i right ? but i got about 1500 ...
i hav had a face on all day coz i thought i was cheated ... maybe b nicer to boss nxt wk lol

bluefinger

hel_hev wrote: »

that would work out only 562.5 ... am i right ? but i got about 1500 ...
i hav had a face on all day coz i thought i was cheated ... maybe b nicer to boss nxt wk lol

hold your horses there....
no point being nice to the boss if you're not 100% sure you have to be:D

I'm assuming your annual salay is 22500, if you got an increas of 1500 that would be about 7% which would amount to three of the cost of living payments? that would be about right for a year i think. perhaps look at siptu website to see the schedule for such payments?

enjoy the extra cash anyway.

AARRRGH

hel_hev wrote: »

i know there is a certain amount of salery increase everyone gets for cost of living etc ...

Where did you hear that? Raises are at the employers discretion.

hel_hev

actully i think i only got 1200 more ... but anyway ...
yeah according to my da and i know my own company does it .. every march they have reviews and everyone gets a pay rise ... they are groups of girls all fighting and trying to find out who got d most etc where i work . but i dont want to join in on the bickering so i was trying to figure out myself / with me da lol, my da says in his company if everyone got no rise , people would start to leave , the cost of living goes up every year so most company will give a sort of minimum rise so people wont leave
my da thought mine was crap , but then i know d company i work for is stingey and will try to get out of giving you a rise ...
Everyone knows i am one of the best there , which leads to jealously etc ... work "mate" ahem as its coming up to march start giving out about me not having a clue what i m doing but at the same time cant come up with a example of a actully mistake ..
one work "mate" is the "supervisors" best friend and they are always whispering all the time .... they make it pretty clear that they are .. i heard "she ll be gone " and looks in my direction and then "we ll just get her to sign a few things" :eek:
earlier in the year i was accused of making mistakes i didnt make and had a certain "supervisor" try to trick me into signing forms admitting to make mistakes ... (which i didnt sign)
so i thought they would bring that stuff up again , as a excuse to give me the smallist rise possible ... i think according to my pay slip my own company set the rise for everyone at 3.5 ... but i got 3.20 ?
i am never good at figuring these things out ...
i have a big feeling that both work "mate" and "supervisor" giving out about me behind my back to manager ... who then subjected me to extreme monitering , but could nt find one mistake .. the form they were trying to get me to sign was then tippexed out and manager wrote over i get 100 % everything correct ....
manager is the one who decides on the pay rise ...i then thought manager had taken up for me , but then when i got pay rise at first i thought he only gave me the minimum , there fore giving "supervisor" and work "mate" what they wanted .. me with not much money !!! so i was giving manager some dirty looks all day ... now i feel a bit bad , becoz i think maybe he was the best in the bunch ... not a great atmosphere where i work at the minute ,, i deffo have a dont trust anyone feeling all the time !!

mikemac

Best of luck but I'm not even going to attempt to read the post, what a nightmare!

A bit of consideration for the posters here to give advice?

Do you hand your boss letters and emails like that?

hel_hev

no i do my work , then it goes to some one in a different building altogether ... supervisor does his own work and then is just there if people need help .. i dont ask the guy for help much at all .. i havent a clue what manager does lol

ixoy

Many, many, many businesses are not signed up to the sustaining progress deals. You're not guaranteed any increase unless it's stipulated in your contract or your company is signed up to the deal.

AARRRGH

From your posts here hel_hev, you're coming across as a very poor communicator. This could be the reason your managers have a problem with you. Maybe you're not communicating what a good job you're doing (certainly you've done a very poor job of that here!)

BTW, a raise of 3.2% to me means "he did the minimum amount of work to reach his targets".

Just a thought...

hel_hev

there is no max or min amount of work to do ...
its more about if you ve ever made mistakes (which i didnt)
i dont want to go into what type of work it is etc incase people i know maybe read this ....

Mellor

The rate of increase is currently at 4.8%, per year
there is no reason why would have to meet this or even get any, unless i your contract.
Mine is coing up soon, I would like at lest inline with CoL, buit also extrs in line with increased proformance/ability, hoping for 10%+

fret_wimp

AFAIK the minimium increase is a big fat zero. Companies ( mainly large american multinational's) dont increase based on inflation each year. you get an increas based on performance. its all tied in with the performance managment and "keeping you motivated".

Dord

fret_wimp wrote: »

AFAIK the minimium increase is a big fat zero. Companies ( mainly large american multinational's) dont increase based on inflation each year. you get an increas based on performance. its all tied in with the performance managment and "keeping you motivated".

Thats what I've found also.

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fret_wimp

a friend of mine worked in the civil service up until recently as a CO. they expect you to live in dublin on just under 22K per year. this is around the wages of the majority of civil serivce workers, and very few get to move up as there are so few higher positions availiable. even after almost 10 years my mates dad was only on about 35K

if your on less than that daveirl then you have a serious issue with your job and need to get out.

get your facts straight before shouting off your mouth.

testicle

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Public Sector workers pay PAYE also you know...

daveirl

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Chinafoot

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Ha! Have you any idea how much public service workers get paid? Unless you get a promotion your wages, which are pretty pathetic to begin with, increase very, very slowly and it can take years to get a decent wage. I know epople who have been in the public service 5 years longer than me and come out with about €120 a month more than me.

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Never heard that in my life. Ever so slightly misleading, dontcha think?

daveirl

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Chinafoot

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Wages at the very top of the public sector are high, but it can take absolutely years to get there. The wages closer to the bottom, where a lot of people are, are absolutely pathetic. I 100% feel that there should be performance based assessments, of course there should. However, I also think that there are many in the private sector with equally "wildly delusional" ideas about how much those in the public sector get paid.

daveirl

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Mellor

If you can't get a job that pays better than a security guard, then the problem is not with the industry, the economy, public sector or the college. As other people don't have this problem,

also 22K starting is shocking, esp for dublin, in any field, degree or not

fret_wimp

office administrator in Civil Service gets 22K per year as a CO.
They have to do 2 years min in the service before even being eligible to go for a promotion, and there are thousands of people taking the exams for the promotion, along with bugger all positions availiable it makes it almost impossible to move up the ladder for many many years.

Private sector office admin can make anything from 25K to 35K+, with most around the 27K mark, not messing. this is starting off on 25K and if you move jobs a few times in your first few years, or get into a company with a good promotional system and gain the correct expirience you wil get up to 35K if your the best. This is not possible in the civil service.

This the kind of example you are looking for daveirl?

daveirl

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fret_wimp

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bloated public sector????? Havnt you read any of the posts about the public sector and the posts? you have blinkers on or something?? selective reading, you only see sentences you want to see?? jes no wonder you are underpaid, id say whatever your on is twice too much you pay as little attention at your job as you do in reading these forums. lets spell it out in a few easy ( even for you ) to understand points:

majority of public sector jobs are under paid.

similar private sector roles pay much more.

private sector pay >= public sector pay


want further breakdown?

daveirl

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mikemac

Chinafoot wrote: »

Wages at the very top of the public sector are high, but it can take absolutely years to get there. The wages closer to the bottom, where a lot of people are, are absolutely pathetic. I 100% feel that there should be performance based assessments, of course there should.

In that case, public sector workers should welcome performance related assesment as it means those with drive and ambition may be able to get promoted faster.
If they show promise maybe a fast-track scheme can be done. The British civil service have such a fast-track scheme.

And those that are happy in their role can stay there.