Rescue Remedy

Featherl

Do people believe in this? Its Flower remedy.. Anyone think it works?

DrIndy

nope - there's a lot of quackery out there - its much worse in the USA but europe is approaching it.

Bmark

If u think it will work then it will work !! The Power of the Mind !

Dubhlinn

About 10 years ago my brother was involved in an accident on his bike. His helmut was cracked and his tooth was broken. He arrived home and was very shook up. He sat down in the sofa and was bent over shaking and kind of moaning with the shock.

I poured him a glass of water and added some rescue remedy. I gave it to him and just told him to drink it. He had no idea that it was anything other than a glass of water. I didn't bother to tell him as I didn't really expect it to have any effect.

About 5 minutes later I walked back into the sitting. He was sitting upright, the telly on, channel surfing and was completely relaxed. I brought my Mam in and we could both hardly believe the change in him. The funny thing was he hadn't even noticed himself and when I told him he just laughed and said he thought he was just drinking water.

Always question everything I say and keep an open mind. I don't know if flower remedies work all the time but they definitely worked in this case.

Susannahmia

Featherl wrote: »

Do people believe in this? Its Flower remedy.. Anyone think it works?

I was told it was basically pure alcohol!

deepimpact

It's preserved in brandy, but it's not 100% alcohol

it's part of the reason it's seen as relaxing, but according to the (limited) studies i have seen (including one done on students taking exams) it has no efect on stress levels.

Chunky Monkey

Bmark wrote: »

If u think it will work then it will work !! The Power of the Mind !

Too true. I was bricking it before going on stage one time. I'd just heard the seats were sold out (a lot of people) and this was a musical (I can't sing). One of the girls grabbed me and put some drops of the rescue remedy on my tongue and told me that it would work wonders. For some reason I believed her and ran into the first act no bother, never noticed the audience at all.

But then I tried it another time before a debate and it didn't work at all, so seems to be the placebo effect that works.

Put some marmite on your tongue next time and convince yourself it'll make you confident, it'll be cheaper, and bigger jar means it'll last longer

TomKehoe

I went into my local pharmacy yesterday and asked for something for stress, perhaps Rescue Remedy.
The assistant handed it to me. Then I asked to speak to the pharmacist.
When I asked if it was good and how it worked, the pharmacist said that it was really just a placebo, that he had no experience or evidence that it was effective but that thousands of people have used it successfully for years.
I asked if he would use it and he smiled and said no, that it couldn't work for him because he knew it was only a placebo.
Obviously I didn't buy it because now I know too so it won't work for me either.
Was that fair of him? It's clearly harmless and probably would have helped me but now it's useless and I'm still stressed.

sam34

TomKehoe wrote: »

Was that fair of him? It's clearly harmless and probably would have helped me but now it's useless and I'm still stressed.

would you prefer if a health professional had lied to you to make a sale?

would you ever trust his professional advice again if you discovered that's what he had done?

opinion guy

sam34 wrote: »

would you prefer if a health professional had lied to you to make a sale?

would you ever trust his professional advice again if you discovered that's what he had done?

Hmmm should a pharmacist be selling something he doesn't believe there is evidence behind ? I mean I'm not saying he should or he shouldn't I'm just wondering.

revz

opinion guy wrote: »

Hmmm should a pharmacist be selling something he doesn't believe there is evidence behind ? I mean I'm not saying he should or he shouldn't I'm just wondering.

Strangely enough, the last 3 posts in this thread came up pretty much identically in a discussion in one of our lectures the other day! (2nd year Pharmacy student).
The majority of the class felt it was wrong for this sort of thing to be sold in a Pharmacy; the lecturer mentioned that things sold in a Pharmacy can be seen as having the "approval" of the Pharmacist and that it must have some sort of health benefit for it to be in the store.

I felt it would ok to give the customer the choice, as long as they were informed about the product. I think the Pharmacist was correct to do what he did as in TomKehoe/sam34's posts.

However my lecturer and ~90% of a 50-something class of Pharmacy students felt it shouldn't be sold there at all....up for debate really!

OMD

A lot of pharmacies sell various forms of homeopathy products. It really makes a mockery of the ads calling the pharmacist a "healthcare provider". If that is the case they are clearly healthcare providers that you should not trust. I know pharmacists will respond by saying they are only selling what they are told to sell or what the people want, but selling this crap in a pharmacy gives it an air of respectability that it does not deserve. Pharmacists as a group need to come out against this crap. How else can they be trusted as impartial healthcare professionals, eager to look after your health rather than sell you any sort of crap as long as it does no harm.

El_Dangeroso

Yeah but does that mean the pharmacist has to double blind test the eye wrinkle creams too? I mean they actually have claims on them, as far as I know those flower remedy things don't. Very fuzzy line between supplements and alt med these days too.

Rescue remedy never worked on me, and at that stage I thought it might. I wonder what the difference between people who react to placebo and those that don't.

Bottom line I don't see the fact that a product on sale in a pharmacy as some sort of guarantee of quality or efficacy. I suspect most would be the same?

OMD

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Bottom line I don't see the fact that a product on sale in a pharmacy as some sort of guarantee of quality or efficacy. I suspect most would be the same?

I disagree. I believe if people see a product for sale in a pharmacy they would have much more faith in it than if it was on the shelves in Tescos. Indeed I would argue they should have more faith. In a pharmacy it is being sold by (or under the supervision of) someone who spent 4 years studying medicine and Human physiology.

El_Dangeroso

OMD wrote: »

I disagree. I believe if people see a product for sale in a pharmacy they would have much more faith in it than if it was on the shelves in Tescos. Indeed I would argue they should have more faith. In a pharmacy it is being sold by (or under the supervision of) someone who spent 4 years studying medicine and Human physiology.

Do they? I don't know anyone who does to be honest, you'd want to be pretty gullible. I'd like to see some research on the subject. In my experience people have made up their minds about what they think before they step into a pharmacy.

Also, don't people know that the pharmacist is now more often another employee rather than a decider of what is effective and what is not? Does that responsibility extend to over the counter pharmaceuticals? (Genuine question)

lonestargirl

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Bottom line I don't see the fact that a product on sale in a pharmacy as some sort of guarantee of quality or efficacy. I suspect most would be the same?

I would think like you but I suspect most people do not. I think there is a big distinction between picking up something from the shelf and asking the pharmacist for a recommendation. It drives me crazy when offered Teetha for my son.

El_Dangeroso

lonestargirl wrote: »

I would think like you but I suspect most people do not. I think there is a big distinction between picking up something from the shelf and asking the pharmacist for a recommendation. It drives me crazy when offered Teetha for my son.

Oh definitely, then you are asking for a professional opinion.