Jumping ships - Nikon to Canon!

Ideo

I'm using the Nikon D50 at the moment and I was thinking about upgrading when im in HK this summer so I was looking at the D300. I had presumed the D200 and D300 were full sensor for some reason but a bit of researching suggested that the D3 was the only full sensor camera available in the Nikon range. So i looked across to the Canon range and am I right in thinking that the 40D is a full sensor camera and yet is cheaper than the D300?

If I was to go from a cropped sensor to a full size what impact would this have on lenses? Apart from the obvious of a 50mm being a 50mm, as oppoesed to a 75m for instance, would certain lenses only be compatable?

Have any of you switched from one to the other before? Why?

And am I right in thinking that the only full sensor cameras in the Nikon range are the D2H and D3?

Paulw

The 40D is a 1.6 crop.

The full frame Canon cameras are 5D and 1Ds (MkI, MkII, MkIII).

All the other Canon models are crop (1D is 1.3 and the rest are 1.6).

I hope that helps.

Ricky91t

Ideo wrote: »

I'm using the Nikon D50 at the moment and I was thinking about upgrading when im in HK this summer so I was looking at the D300. I had presumed the D200 and D300 were full sensor for some reason but a bit of researching suggested that the D3 was the only full sensor camera available in the Nikon range. So i looked across to the Canon range and am I right in thinking that the 40D is a full sensor camera and yet is cheaper than the D300?

If I was to go from a cropped sensor to a full size what impact would this have on lenses? Apart from the obvious of a 50mm being a 50mm, as oppoesed to a 75m for instance, would certain lenses only be compatable?

Have any of you switched from one to the other before? Why?

And am I right in thinking that the only full sensor cameras in the Nikon range are the D2H and D3?

AFAIK the D3 is nikons first full frame sensor and the canon eos 40D is not a full frame sensor its a 1.6 crop factor same as nikon.The canon eos 5d has a full frame sensor and there are rumours that a 5D mkII is coming out so you might be in Hk after its been released and if you are the 5D will be much cheaper

Thats meant to be a crop factor showing full frame and a 1.6 crop

Ideo

Oh I must have getting mixed up with the cameras so! Sorry!

Yeah I think the price of the 5D has come down already, see here.

Still, I'm considering jumping ship. I think it would be worth it going from the cropped sensor to full frame. Anyone tend to agree?

eas

hi ideo

If you don't have a mentionable investment in nikon lenses it doesnt really matter if you buy Nikon or Canon, does it?

If you want a full frame camera and are on a budget, the only answer is a 5d.

Out of curisostiy, why do you feel the need for a full frame camera?

Thirdfox

First dibs on your Nikon equipment!

Technically a Nikon crop sensor is likely to be bigger than the Canon equivalent (1.5x on D40-300 versus 1.6x on 40D).

But the rumours have been floating around that Canon are about to release some kind of 5DII/7D etc.

qwertz

There are also rumours that the D300x is going to be FX rather than DX. Don't we all love unconfirmed rumours?

GristlyEnd

qwertz wrote: »

There are also rumours that the D300x is going to be FX rather than DX. Don't we all love unconfirmed rumours?

Unconfirmed rumours are the backbone of the internet :pac:

Anyway, I would love to see a full frame D300.

Thirdfox

Well while we're at it how about a full frame D40...drools.

YeahOK

DarrenG wrote: »

Unconfirmed rumours are the backbone of the internet :pac:

Anyway, I would love to see a full frame D300.

Unconfirmed rumours are the best kind of free advertising as well:D

Ideo

eas wrote: »

Out of curisostiy, why do you feel the need for a full frame camera?

Well I like to shoot macro and think the cropped sensor is limiting the results. I presume the full sensor is going to get a lot more into the frame, giving a bigger better image

Oh and I havent got a substantial investment: kit lens, 70-300mm and 50mm so if I got a good price on the kit I'd probably trade up.

5uspect

Why not put the cash into a decent macro lens as well as a decent body? What limitations are you finding?

How much you fit into the frame depends solely on your focal lenght you just need to factor in your crop factor and pick your len accordingly. A full frame camera will obviously be better in low light and at the wide end of your lenses but It will also narrow your depth of field which may be an advantage for your macro work.

Sure you might as well get a medium format camera!

Ideo

well im going to get a macro lense this summer but before commiting myself to nikon im trying to weigh up the options. in terms of putting money into a body thats what im trying to figure out, upgrade to a d300 or something or go with an affordable full frame (5d). Ive got some thinknig to do!

eas

hi Ideo

the way I figure it cropped sensor would be better for macro ?

Think about : your working distance will be decreased by a full frame sensor, then will be your DOF then will your shutter speeds and increase your need to proper support. I haven't given it much thought, but I can't think of one advantage a full frame would have for macro shooting. anyone else maybe?

Ideo

Well im not thinking of the full frame solely in terms in Macro, but landscapes, portraits and general purpose

Borderfox

Macros with the 5d are silky smooth and thats without sharpening...

run_Forrest_run

all this dirty talk of jumping from Nikon to Canon is making me feel ill, i need to sit down:(

Dr.Louis

I'm kinda jumping in here 'mid-thread', but if you're into macro photography and have a Nikon body, just buy a Nikon macro lens, they're pretty much the leading producers of micro-technology- ie, they make the best macro ('micro' in Nikon's terms) lenses and microscopes. The Nikon Micro 105mm would be an investment you'd never regret!

mathias

Ive got a 20D and a 5D and in terms of general usage , for me the 5D is a much nicer camera , but then , I started with film , and for me the 5d is the only digital ive ever had that matches it usage wise.

In terms of macro , I wouldnt say either one has a benefit over the other , a decent macro lens seems to be what your after ,

For landscapes though , the 5D is definitely the better job , the only thing you have to keep in mind is that it needs good lenses , L type if you can afford them , because the wider sensor shows up the imperfections around the edges of the cheaper lenses.

Canon full frame only take EF lens , so forget about the EF-S type super wide lens , the dont work on it , however the 17 -40L does , and that gives you the same field of view, more or less!

Ideo

mathias wrote: »

For landscapes though , the 5D is definitely the better job , the only thing you have to keep in mind is that it needs good lenses , L type if you can afford them , because the wider sensor shows up the imperfections around the edges of the cheaper lenses.

Canon full frame only take EF lens , so forget about the EF-S type super wide lens , the dont work on it , however the 17 -40L does , and that gives you the same field of view, more or less!

That's exactly what I was wondering! Thanks!