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Diesel Cayenne
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25-03-2008 8:10pm#1
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LOL, the LM002 had a timing problem. Had it been launched in Dublin only in 2006 (instead of a global launch in 1986) with a retail price of €200k (in girls' money about 5 posh hand bags) in Brown Thomas, it would have been a major marketing success
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Makes me laugh, most of ye thought that a diesel R8 was a good idea, but when a Porsche badge is applied it "dilutes the Porsche brand".
What's wrong with a diesel Cayenne? Don't anyone say that the Cayenne is a proper Porsche, a proper Porsche is a sports car, not an SUV anyway. They diluted the Porsche brand by building a yummy mummy's car, not by putting a diesel into a yummy mummys car. The damage was done years ago when Porsche decided to build a Cayenne in the first place.
Why is diesel a great idea in a supercar, but not in a 4X4? I always thought it would be the other way around, no
? Diesel is best suited to working vehicles, not in thrill machines like a supercar. That was why Rudolf Diesel invented the engine named in his honour for in the first place.
As an aside, Audi aren't bothering with the hybrid Q7 after all, "the numbers don't add up" apparently. They're sticking with diesel instead for the US.
Wonder how this will affect the Cayenne hybrid?0 -
Why is diesel a great idea in a supercar, but not in a 4X4? I always thought it would be the other way around, no? Diesel is best suited to working vehicles, not in thrill machines like a supercar. That was why Rudolf Diesel invented the engine named in his honour for in the first place.
a) Audi are well known for their TDI engines and they do not really make sportscars a la Porsche
b) Building a sportscar with a high performance diesel can only strengthen their brand, especially in the US where "TDI" is a brand in its own right.0 -
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At least they are not putting a single cylinder semi diesel engine into the Cayenne!
Don't think Porsche ever made the tractor for any longer than a few years post WWII., the name was licenced out for most of the production. They were quite common in Ireland though.
Stunning looking tractor for the period.0 -
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E 92: Why is diesel a great idea in a supercar, but not in a 4X4? I always thought it would be the other way around, no? Diesel is best suited to working vehicles, not in thrill machines like a supercar.
As an aside, Audi aren't bothering with the hybrid Q7 after all, "the numbers don't add up" apparently. They're sticking with diesel instead for the US.
Never said that putting diesel into a super car was a great idea, althought I can't see any issue with it either, as to some it could be seen as an advancement, particularly as the diesel engine seems to have advanced a lot more in recent years than the petrol engine has.
I just don't and never could see the point in the Cayenne from the start, given that it is such an ugly looking car, when compared to the VW Touareg which it has so much in common with.
I think you should have a good read of the article on the following link, as I seem to remember you posting on another tread that Diesel is just a Fad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine
Must you mention BMW and their bag of tricks in almost every post you make.0 -
E 92: Must you mention BMW and their bag of tricks in almost every post you make.
I'm afraid he does - he's on a %%, dontchaknow
Oh, and like BMW would sell one of their engines to their leading competitors on the class (X5 vs Cayenne..) - never happen.
Oh, and Otto Diesel invented the diesel to.............get around the petrol patent.Ode To The Motorist
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Why is diesel a great idea in a supercar, but not in a 4X4? I always thought it would be the other way around, no? Diesel is best suited to working vehicles, not in thrill machines like a supercar.
did you write that the right way round??
Anyhoo, you're forgetting the reason sportscars were invented in the first place -to win races. Audi have walked on everyone for the last X years with a diesel, and to ignore that fact is just plain daft. And the reason all those sports and F1 cars went away from clutches and gearlevers, and previous to that, non-syncromesh and double-declutching, is not for some esoteric thrill reason - it's because something better/faster/more effective came along.
Right now, the TDI is that Next Best Thing.:D
Wait 'til they do the diesel-hybrid - then you'll be really upset !!Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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