just a few questions on judo

twinytwo

im looking into judo at the mo. Iv done shotokan karate for a number of years but am wishing to try something new.

firstly iv been looking at a few videos and what not and to me judo looks like it will be hard to learn. Is this the case or does it just look tricky?

Can u be a member of two clubs?.. by this i mean can i represent my local club as well as my college? Obviously not at the same event.

finally with the sparring i know that there are weight divisions but does that also take into account the belt that someone is one or is it done purely on weight?

thanks in advance.

dlofnep

twinytwo wrote: »

im looking into judo at the mo. Iv done shotokan karate for a number of years but am wishing to try something new.

firstly iv been looking at a few videos and what not and to me judo looks like it will be hard to learn. Is this the case or does it just look tricky?

Can u be a member of two clubs?.. by this i mean can i represent my local club as well as my college? Obviously not at the same event.

finally with the sparring i know that there are weight divisions but does that also take into account the belt that someone is one or is it done purely on weight?

thanks in advance.

There is no problem being a member of two clubs. It's not that it's hard to learn, you will just have to put the time in. Like anything else, getting to grips with judo requires time. But it's a fun learning experience. And the first time you nail a clean throw in training, you'll be hooked.

As far as competitions go, it really depends on the competition.. But generally, you have 3 divisions for belts.. Lower, middle and upper. Lower will be new guys with a year experience or less (more of less) - middle is about 2-4 years and then after that you'll have the upper which is pretty much black belts.

My first competition I went up against a 75KG black belt from france (im 60kg yellow belt).. So it depends on the competition and how organised it is.

For "sparring" you'll go against anyone in your club generally, regardless of weight or belt size.. But sometimes they might seperate it. I spar often with Bos (a 6'9", near 300lb monster). It depends on your club, but it's good to spar with all shapes and sizes in training

Just go to a few classes and check it out. The Shotokan guys who train in our college hall with us train with us sometimes. They like it just fine

filament

unlike soccer and rugby, representing two clubs is fine because their is no national body. it only becomes a problem if you're gonna be facing off in the same event

arybvtcw0eolkf

I train in two clubs, but on my licence it states that I'm Portmarnock Judo.

It never causes a problem, even in competition.

I find Judo hard to learn, but for me thats half the challenge.

Judomad

dlofnep wrote: »

My first competition I went up against a 75KG black belt from france (im 60kg yellow belt).. So it depends on the competition and how organised it is.

i find that hard to believe, i have been competing in judo for nearly 15years now and you either fought in an open weight category or talking out of your A**E because if your 60kg and a yellow belt you would have fought lower kyu, and if you fought by weight then clearly a 75kg lad wouldnt fight in 60kg category, maybe it was a team comp, in that case your team was very badly decided or were very very light in all....

as for categories, it is done by weight....-60kg, -66, -73, - 81, -90, -100 and +100kg.....
there are kyu categories in some of the smaller comps but not in the irish open or anything like that, the biggest competition youd have a kyu comp in would be the leinster open if you were lucky, and as for what the lad i quoted said again thats lies, lower kyu is for white and yellow belts, middle kyu is for orange and green belts and upper kyu is for blue and brown belts, nothing to do with years in the sport, plus there only for senior grades, in the -16years its all got to do with weight...you can train in different clubs as i have my club on my license(swords) but when i have comps coming up i train with portmarnock and also coolmine too, not to mention the natioanl squads once a month.....

and learning is like anything, if you put dedication into it you will learn it properly(if you are thought well), iv put my life into judo so far putting it ahead of everything in life so far inclding mates, woman, alcohol(i dont drink), exams(leaving cert, college etc.....) sp if your dedicated and train hard youl learn it....

where are you from and what club would you like to go to OP???

Pingu

Judomad wrote: »

.... maybe it was a team comp, in that case your team was very badly decided ...

Was more than likely the Intervarsities, happens quite a bit actually, Colleges with smaller numbers making up a team or putting in a B-Team for the experience, it's always a great motivator/experience to be fighting for the four lads standing in your corner aswell.

Judomad wrote: »

.... the biggest competition youd have a kyu comp in would be the leinster open if you were lucky, ...

Actually there's the National Kyu Comp in April, Kyu's in the Kilkenny Open, Northwest Open, Galway Open...

With Regard to College and Club there's no problem, Is it UCC you're on about? I know some of them train reg. out in Ballincollig.

Sparring in training, you'll do that with everyone all grades and sizes, but it's only training and no one is gonna bury you, everyone is there to learn, so ppl will go easy on you if you're a relative beginner

Compwise you'll start off in the Kyu's fighting people the same grade as yourself, as you get more experience you'll enter the weight divisions.

dlofnep

Judomad wrote: »

i find that hard to believe, i have been competing in judo for nearly 15years now and you either fought in an open weight category or talking out of your A**E because if your 60kg and a yellow belt you would have fought lower kyu, and if you fought by weight then clearly a 75kg lad wouldnt fight in 60kg category, maybe it was a team comp, in that case your team was very badly decided or were very very light in all....

Eh.. Who are you to decide what's gospel and what isn't? Anyone who was at the Waterford Open could substantiate it. Yes, it was a team competition and I just so happened to be the lightest on my team. The other teams, the lightest guys varied between 75-85kg.

So lose your attitude and don't go jumping off making claims about me, when you don't know me or have never met me. FYI: I just so happen to have a video of one of my other matches against a brown belt, who I believe is in around the 85KG region, more or less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbcH5xioEHE

Judomad wrote: »

and as for what the lad i quoted said again thats lies, lower kyu is for white and yellow belts, middle kyu is for orange and green belts and upper kyu is for blue and brown belts, nothing to do with years in the sport,

No, it's not lies. There you go again with that awful attitude. It's pretty much ballpark region in terms of time trained. I didn't want to confuse him with belt colours as how is he to know what rank of each belt. It would be much more informative to give him a jist of the experience in each category. hence why I said "more or less".

arybvtcw0eolkf

Lads calm down a bit there, not the impression we want to give any budding Judoka here is it?..

Your both off to a little misunderstanding..

Judomad - dlofnep is a regular poster here, he's respected by everyone and is not given to talking bollox. He's a good lad, not as experienced as you but give him a chance.

dlofnep - Judomad is one of the soundest, nicest Judoka I've met. I'm sure he's just mis understood your description of Judo and your participation in competition.

Settle lads

Nothingcompares

judomental more like it

Nothingcompares

dlofnep wrote: »

FYI: I just so happen to have a video of one of my other matches against a brown belt, who I believe is in around the 85KG region, more or less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbcH5xioEHE

I know this chap. He's been a brown belt even longer than I have! He's only about 66kg though believe it or not very skinny chap, I think he reads this board too from time to time.

twinytwo

Judomad wrote: »

i find that hard to believe, i have been competing in judo for nearly 15years now and you either fought in an open weight category or talking out of your A**E because if your 60kg and a yellow belt you would have fought lower kyu, and if you fought by weight then clearly a 75kg lad wouldnt fight in 60kg category, maybe it was a team comp, in that case your team was very badly decided or were very very light in all....

as for categories, it is done by weight....-60kg, -66, -73, - 81, -90, -100 and +100kg.....
there are kyu categories in some of the smaller comps but not in the irish open or anything like that, the biggest competition youd have a kyu comp in would be the leinster open if you were lucky, and as for what the lad i quoted said again thats lies, lower kyu is for white and yellow belts, middle kyu is for orange and green belts and upper kyu is for blue and brown belts, nothing to do with years in the sport, plus there only for senior grades, in the -16years its all got to do with weight...you can train in different clubs as i have my club on my license(swords) but when i have comps coming up i train with portmarnock and also coolmine too, not to mention the natioanl squads once a month.....

and learning is like anything, if you put dedication into it you will learn it properly(if you are thought well), iv put my life into judo so far putting it ahead of everything in life so far inclding mates, woman, alcohol(i dont drink), exams(leaving cert, college etc.....) sp if your dedicated and train hard youl learn it....

where are you from and what club would you like to go to OP???

cork ... no better place.. as far as i no the closest club is ballincolig unless anyone knows of one round the tower/blarney area?

arybvtcw0eolkf

twinytwo wrote: »

cork ... no better place.. as far as i no the closest club is ballincolig unless anyone knows of one round the tower/blarney area?

Don't you post in the Military forum?..

If your in the PDF or RDF the southern brigade have a very active judo club going. Both PDF and RDF members train and compete together in the Defence Forces Judo Club.

Judomad

dlofnep wrote: »

FYI: I just so happen to have a video of one of my other matches against a brown belt, who I believe is in around the 85KG region, more or less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbcH5xioEHE

you looked here when it went to ground, you should have stayed busy when ya went down(although refs dont give too much time at all) if you stay really active youll get more time, im small too -66s but when it goes to the ground is where height(and sometimes weight) doesnt matter as much..theres no better feeling than beating someone who is a higher grade and also heavier, so for future reference think of that, also use there momemtum against them, catch them as they come to you, trust me iv fought 130kg monsters in grading competition for brown and black belts so eventually you adjust to it but that comes with time and the more you fight bigger lads the more wise you get to what style to approach the fight too...
keep up the good work!!

dlofnep

Nothingcompares wrote: »

I know this chap. He's been a brown belt even longer than I have! He's only about 66kg though believe it or not very skinny chap, I think he reads this board too from time to time.

Is he really only 66? He was much bigger than me. Suprised he could make that weight. He beat the french black belt in his last match. Sound chap.

Judomad wrote: »

you looked here when it went to ground, you should have stayed busy when ya went down(although refs dont give too much time at all) if you stay really active youll get more time, im small too -66s but when it goes to the ground is where height(and sometimes weight) doesnt matter as much..theres no better feeling than beating someone who is a higher grade and also heavier, so for future reference think of that, also use there momemtum against them, catch them as they come to you, trust me iv fought 130kg monsters in grading competition for brown and black belts so eventually you adjust to it but that comes with time and the more you fight bigger lads the more wise you get to what style to approach the fight too...
keep up the good work!!

thanks man i think we got off on the wrong foot. the ref wasn't giving much time on the ground, and i was trying to shift my hips up for an armbar but the guy kept his elbows very tight and didn't give me much space to work with so i just went for the sweep

Judomad

dlofnep wrote: »

so i just went for the sweep

and done it succesfully, where do you train?? what weight are you too, whats your next competition???

dlofnep

Judomad wrote: »

and done it succesfully, where do you train?? what weight are you too, whats your next competition???

I train at WIT judo club. Right now I'm 57KG.. We had a competition just recently but I missed it due to work. I'll find out when the next one is when I get back to class