Irish Open Experience

Requiem4adream

I wrote this in my blog tonight but nobody reads it and i put a lot of effort into it... this is just a review of my Irish Open experience, might be a decent read if anyone is bored. Feel free to comment on hands if you want obv but i know myself which ones i played good and bad

EDIT - i dont want this to descend into a bashing-me thread, which is what Mick McCool has tried to do below. I know my strengths/weaknesses/strong points/limitations as a poker player. This report is purely a reflection of my experience in the Irish Open, it's only my 2nd Irish Open and 4th big live event. I wrote it as an honest assessment of my tournament as i saw it and included hands i played good and bad. I thought it would be a good read for people.(FWIW i watched McCool on tv other week and thought he was very good). bedtime. /end edit.

Irish Open

It's still pretty raw but gonna go through my Irish Open experience.

Day 1

I chose to play Day 1a thursday, thinking being i'd have the weekend free if im knocked out and if i'm still in i'd have a break day to recharge the batteries for the weekend. Got to Citywest and was pretty disappointed with my table draw - i knew there would be plenty of tough tables but i landed one i'd rather have avoided. Sorel Mizzi, Todd Brunson, David Rudling, Tony Baitson, StrewelPeter off boards too and joined later by frenchie pro Thomas Fougeron. I was hoping for a softer table to play my way into the tournament and impose by own style/rhythm. It's a bit like in snooker when i play a ranking event, a tough draw 1st match makes life so much tougher than getting someone you know you should beat easily. Playing your way into a tournament is a concept that applies to almost every sport, nearly everyone would prefer an easy draw early on.

Anyway, 1st hour i build my 10k stack to around 12k with a few 3bets , showing AA and KK.

Key Hand #1
I'm button with 34ss at 50/100. Todd Brunson raises LP to 300, girl on C/O (i'd say in her 40's, but looked like a clueless novice to me) flat calls, i squeeze it to 1500. I wanted to show Todd (& sorel) that they werent going to get an easy ride with their LP raises.....plus i had only shown KK or AA down so was entitled to respect for the move. Todd folds, the girl calls. Flop 5s 6s 10d. Open ended straight flush draw. She checks. I bet 3100, she shoves for 7k total, i call. She has KK...i was shocked but still not in the worst shape. I miss all and im down to around 3400. This is at 50/100. Devastated.

#2
Blinds 75/150 im playing 2700, pick up AA in sb. Praying for some action on it. Rudling raises to 500 UTG, i smooth call. He clearly sensed alarm bells ringing, i could see it in his face. Everyone else folds, flop comes 8 high, i c/r all in. He has QQ and i double plus a little to 5700.

#3
1 orbit later im bb playing 6k with AdKc. C/O, english pro not sure who, raises to 550. He has been very tight all game so im not sure what to do here. Considered flat calling but didnt like it OOP so my options were a reluctant fold or raise. I eventually decided to repop to 2950. He insta-shoved. Even though it'd probably be a bad fold i didnt snap-call and wanted to think about this a little more. Rocky the Rock has just insta-shipped it so i know he has a good hand. In the end i called, i was always calling i guess but needed to think a little about it. I felt he would have taken longer to ship in AA/KK, maybe even flat call and trap me. He showed TT, flop 2 diamonds, turn diamond for flush draw bringing more outs, river Ks. Thank God. OR thank Cooker3

#4
Blinds 100/200 i'm button with AcJd playing 14k. Danish guy moved to our table has been very active in the hour he's been at the table. He raises MP to 675 i call. I felt i could outplay him most flops and if i hit a specific flop could get paid. Flop Qd 2d 2c. Check-check. Turn 9d. He leads out 2k i make it 5750 he insta-calls. When he called quick i felt he had something like TT with Td or AK with Ad. Either way didnt put him on the Q, it would be a strange way to play the Q. River blank , he checks to me. Checking behind i very rarely have the winner, and i only have 8k or so left. I bet 5650. Effectively all-in but i felt psychologically it might look more like VALUETOWN that anything else. He got 5650 seperated it from his stack went to call, stares at me for at least 4 mins i remain motionless, he folds in disgust. I showed him the bluff. Wanted Sorel to know i can get tricky mainly, and also to tilt him. It worked on both counts.

#5.
I have 24k ish blinds 150/300. Sorel makes it 1k MP, Todd flat calls button, i squeeze to 4500 on bb with TT. Going through my head: if Sorel was online in $100 rebuy here he would probably resteal light. In this game he was hyper aggro. He asked for my chip count. When he did this my mind was made up, he was seeing if i had enough fold equity to run his move off. He had seen me get tricky with the AJ hand so a squeeze here with air was within my range. I decided there and then if he raises i'm not folding as long as Todd folds. Sorel makes it 15.5k, Todd folds, i ship it in he calls with Q8 and i hold. almost 50k stack.

Next 3 hours were a nightmare, card dead and the table just got crazy. Thomas Fougeron, Todd and Sorel making life very difficult and i just didnt have any cards , nor did i find a good spot to make a move or 2. Ended Day 1 on 33.1k with average at 26.8k.


Feelings on Day 1:
I went home gutted. Initially. Was at 50k and the last 3 hours were nightmarish and i was blinded away badly. When i actually reflected the next day, i realised how stupid this was to feel that way. I was down to 2400 after 90 mins and fought back to end the day above average and played some great poker. This was exactly why i wanted day 1a, so i could reflect on it before going into Day 2.

Day 2

Draw for Day 2: Dave Colclough and Mick McCool were the main 2. I quickly went from 33k to 15k and was gutted, cant even remember the key hands right now, bit hazy.

Recovery:
#1
JThh MP playing 15k at 500/1k ante 50. Raised to 3k. Folds to bb , El Blondie, asks what im playing then shoves. I know he has a hand obviously to do this when he knows im committed. I think about folding but in the end i decided this was the last stand. I'm probably a 40-60 dog, didnt put him on a premium. I called. He tables 88. I hit J on turn and im back to 30k

#2
This was the big one. Mick McCool extremely active/aggro. He's playing around 35k as am i. He raises the C/O to 3600 at 500/1000. I peel a flop in bb with K6ss. I usually dont like this type of play but felt i could outplay him a lot of flops and the ones i hit im definitely getting paid off. Flop Qs Js 3d. I check, he checks. Turn Jd. I check-call a 5k bet. My thinking was simple, im betting any river, he probably has none of it and i can move him off almost all of his range (i.e. air). River is a spade. So ive rivered a flush, im certain im ahead. How do i extract value? If i check-raise i risk him checking behind. If i make a pot sized bet i leave no room for him to make a mistake. I know he likes to make moves. I bet 7k leaving about 18 behind. I really hoped this would look weak. He asked me how much ive left and shoves for his whole game, i call. He has A5o for complete air. I really felt i played this well post-flop. If i missed the river i was going to overbet shove and probably take it down also, so whatever way the river came the pot was mine.

Peak of 80k

Fall from Grace
Ok so i'm at 70k a few orbits later on button with AJo. I raise to 5k at 600/1200 ante 100. BB shoves 30k. BB is a good LAG , this reason alone made me want to call. I know AJ is not bad on his range and a lot of times ahead. After considering it for a few moments i call, he flips 99.

65k pot ish, AJ v 99 straight race. I brick and go back to 35k+

#2
I have AQ on button. English guy who i had history with and a huge argument earlier, very heated, raises UTG to 5k at 600/1200 ante 100. I have 25k start of hand. This guy is a very good TAG, raises most pairs and has it everytime at showdown. I felt it was on the marginal side of a bad call preflop but i was card dead and looking to make something happen. Flop J 10 3. He leads for 5k. Ok.... what now. I have clean outs for the nuts but obviously that's wishful thinking. I can fold easily and it's the correct play...but i felt if i smooth call with my stack it'll look very strong, a set maybe and if he slows down on the turn he may be playing 55-99 or AK and i can get him off it. He showed a remarkable willingness to fold big hands when called. So i call - plan: if he checks any blank turn i shove. If i hit gutter im paid. If he keeps firing turn i fold,mumble to myself about being a complete tool and engage Shove-Happy mode. The turn is Q. Hmmm. what now. I'm putting him on either mid pair or AK ,and if it's AK im toast. He asks me what i have left ( i reply 15k), he bets 12k. I dont usually do speechplay at all, but i took my headphones off and asked "you wouldnt have 66 by any chance?!". his reply gave his hand away "66? have i showed anything less than the goods all game?". I folded. He showed me KK.

Ok so i have 15k and ive just ****ed up really that hand, although made the right fold belatedly. Admittedly probably the wrong fold based on odds etc etc but i dont care. Simple as that. I shoved 5 of the next 8 hands and didnt get called once, got my stack back to around 30k.

Tricky Play
Im in bb, 1/2k blinds, button makes it 6k. Button is very likeable New Zealander who i talked about cricket with for ages. I was hoping i could use this fact to outplay him. I call 8 10hh. Flop 566. I lead out 9k leaving 15k behind. He asks me have i got a pair, looks in disgust at his cards and folds (AK). I think my flop bet looked like i wasnt folding.


Exit
Ok my exit hand is very sick, and is still a sore point. Sorel Mizzi moved back to my table and he's very very busy. Raised 6 hands 1st orbit. Blinds are 1/2k there are 115 left in the tournament, 72 paid. I want to get paid. Who doesnt. Ive played 14 hours, im not rich and 4500 is 4500. But i didnt play it to play scared. Sorel raises to 6k from C/O, im playing 48k and shove in sb with AQo. BB hits the TIME button so to speak. Eventually clock is called and he calls after an age. Sorel folds. AQo v JJ for 100k+ pot. Top 10 in chips or out. I miss all and im out.

I can never play this hand differently. AQ is massive against Sorel's range and i cant worry about the bb. I'm not deep enough to play a flop , and even if i was i'm not going to do it OOP with AQ. Equally i dont have enough chips to 3bet/fold, so shove is my only play. Was gut-wrenching to lose 2 massive races. If i win either race in the day it'd have placed me top 10 in chips at the time. AJ v 99 and AQ v JJ. Just either race. Alas it wasn't to be.

Overall:

I felt i showed i have good temperament and ability, showed i could grind the short stack and fightback, i played lots of good poker and my tournament basically came down to 2 very big races which i lost. I've dispelled my own doubts about being able to compete live with the best players. I hope in the future to make a big run at a big tournament and feel i have the game to do it.

Kamaldihnio

Well Done and Unlucky at the Same time. With a bit more luck you would have got paid and who knows paid well. Very good read for me and I hope all the boards players who played the Open put up something like this here.

Mick McCool

Dan, thought l would make a comment fella before you lure yourself into a false sense of security whilst trying to make your fortune playing live Tournament Poker.

Firstly, l sat down at the table today and within a 40min period l knew your game. I went down to 15k along with yourself but there was a difference with my loss and yours. I was playing POKER and you where trying to, limping in early position with attractive crap and calling re raises with it when put to a decision. A J suited and then J 10 suited, these hands are barely good enough to raise with, nevermind calling 50% or 100% of your stack with. The hand with Dave when you called an ALL IN with J 10 suited was the call of a real inexperienced player as was the AJ suited.

Next, you said "I thought l could outplay him on the flops", well fair play to you on that one Dan, but from what l seen today it wont be happening to soon as my 14 year old brother has more moves. I made a move at the wrong time and you got lucky to hit such a big river after another bad call of a raise with K 7 and u still weren't sure when u called the ALL IN, stating "GOOD GAME LADS". Could u make a move like that on the river for ur whole tourney, think about it?

Good Luck with your live game Dan but don't let your EGO ruin a common sense progression like so many broke players before you. I learn everytime l sit at a table mate, l hope u will too.

Requiem4adream

Mick McCool wrote: »

Dan, thought l would make a comment fella before you lure yourself into a false sense of security whilst trying to make your fortune playing live Tournament Poker.

Firstly, l sat down at the table today and within a 40min period l knew your game. I went down to 15k along with yourself but there was a difference with my loss and yours. I was playing POKER and you where trying to, limping in early position with attractive crap and calling re raises with it when put to a decision. A J suited and then J 10 suited. The hand with Dave when you called an ALL IN with J 10 suited was the call of a real inexperienced player as was the AJ suited.

Next, you said "I thought l could outplay him on the flops", well fair play to you on that one Dan, but from what l seen today it wont be happening to soon as my 14 year old brother has more moves. I made a move at the wrong time and you got lucky to hit such a big river after another bad call of a raise with K 7 and u still weren't sure when u called the ALL IN, stating "GOOD GAME LADS". Could u make a move like that on the river for ur whole tourney, think about it?

Good Luck with your live game Dan but don't let your EGO ruin a common sense progression like so many broke players before you. I learn everytime l sit at a table mate, l hope u will too.

If you sussed my game within 40 mins good for you....must have been your 14 year old brother who taught you how to donk away your stack with Ace high? Look no offence but i dont want your negative input into my thread, sour grapes. This is a fair reflection of my tournament as i saw it, simple as that. Everyone has an opinion on other players, some people even think you're good. If you think im useless that's fine by me, it doesnt change anything in my thought processes on each hand.

I've no ego about live poker nor grand ambitions for world domination. When i say "i felt i can outplay him on a lot of flops" what that means is i fancy i can outplay anyone on a lot of flops. It's confidence in yourself and you need that as a poker player. Equally there were many bad flops for me and a lot of flops that you would outplay me on and i'd end up donking away more chips on a risky move. It's the risk involved in playing a less-than-standard LAG game. Sorel Mizzi showed those risks all too well on Day 1,he was all in behind almost every time running moves. In my whole tournament i was never dominated in an all-in situation, and lost 2 massive races. That means i made my biggest mistakes in smaller pots.

sickpuppy

Dan i think you butchered the aj hand myself.
WIth blinds 600 1200 would u normally rasie 4bb and a bit i know theres antes too.
Online i see you usually rasing 2.4 to 2.7 bbs.
His push of 37k look a bit weird and do you really have to get involved with the marginal AJ
I have played nowhere near as many mtts as yourself but lately ive seen my results get much better by being more cautious.
ID FOLD AJ to a rasie for half my stack most times and same with medium pairs.
If the guy is making huge reraises then call him witha premium hand not a medium one.
Of course if you won the hand youd have huge stack and a possible big cash
but at that stage there was no need to go the races.
Hard luck regardless.

Mick McCool

Requiem4adream wrote: »

If you sussed my game within 40 mins good for you....must have been your 14 year old brother who taught you how to donk away your stack with Ace high? Look no offence but i dont want your negative input into my thread, sour grapes. This is a fair reflection of my tournament as i saw it, simple as that. Everyone has an opinion on other players, some people even think you're good. If you think im useless that's fine by me, it doesnt change anything in my thought processes on each hand.

I've no ego about live poker nor grand ambitions for world domination. At least i have some perspective about my ability unlike you judging by your interview on telly tonight. "If i run good i'll go deep". I'm content with most hands i played in the tournament and the logic behind them.

Dan, if you think SKILL alone wins you tournaments then u are living in Wonderland buddy. I wont be posting your J 10 or A J hands in the Hand Theory board as your answers should have been seen in Dave Colcloughs face when he flipped his hand.

Running Good is vital for a consistent record in comps, but you will never make a living playing comps and cash has to be where the income is made. Tournaments are a bonus!

As a final word Dan, you look the part with all your gear on and l would always be happy to see you at my table mate. Good luck with all your poker mate and let your luck continue............

Requiem4adream

Mick McCool wrote: »

Dan, if you think SKILL alone wins you tournaments then u are living in Wonderland buddy. I wont be posting your J 10 or A J hands in the Hand Theory board as your answers should have been seen in Dave Colcloughs face when he flipped his hand.

Running Good is vital for a consistent record in comps, but you will never make a living playing comps and cash has to be where the income is made. Tournaments are a bonus!

As a final word Dan, you look the part with all your gear on and l would always be happy to see you at my table mate. Good luck with all your poker mate and let your luck continue............

What did Dave expect shoving 88 when im committed? if it wasnt JT it'd have been AK or AQ, he's bound to be in a race situation or worse.

As a final point over last 30 months online i've played 3900 tournaments online , more than you will play in your lifetime in live poker:

Prizes Profit
$308,497 $126,065

That's not the worst and I'm improving and learning too, so hopefully ill get better.

Anyway it's all off topic, good luck to you too man. I was TRYING to give an account of my tournament, before you dragged it off topic with sour grapes tbh. there's enough people around here who think i suck i'll just add your name to the list, k /end.

I played some hands good, some hands bad, some hands very well and butchered some, but that's all in the OP and i wrote it as a reflection of my tournament.

HoLLLLLaments

mick mccool, you are probably the best player in Ireland

ArmaniJeanss

Nice report Dan, seems like you played well but butchered a couple of hands.
What was the argument with the English guy about?

Mick, why exactly is it OK for you to openraise with A5 (and bluff your whole stack off with it) but on the other hand 'AJ is barely good enough to raise with' for R4ad?. Contradictory?
And do you seriously think it was a really bad call with JT in the hand against Colclough?

Requiem4adream

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Nice report Dan, seems like you played well but butchered a couple of hands.
What was the argument with the English guy about?

Mick, why exactly is it OK for you to openraise with A5 (and bluff your whole stack off with it) but on the other hand 'AJ is barely good enough to raise with' for R4ad?. Contradictory?
And do you seriously think it was a really bad call with JT in the hand against Colclough?

Basically i open shoved 30k at 800/1600 ante 200 on C/O english guy in bb dwells for ages and shows the guy next to him then folds.

I ask: what did you fold?
Reply: JJ.

He didnt show me, just said it.

Then he said show me your cards. My cards were in the muck. He stopped the dealer and asked me and dealer to get my cards. He said it's common courtesy if im gonna ask someones cards that i tell them mine. At which point i point out a) he didnt show me anything and b) i said verbally 'you were racing' and he could guess which one i had for himself, then he told me something along the lines of 'very bad form'.

I asked others and they said he was trying to hustle me for free info basically.

Taxipete29

Was there for the McCool(didnt know who he was at the time) hand and was shocked that he tried to bluff that board at the end.Even if he thinks your hand is weak its a terrible spot to bluff with A high given his obvious image for making moves. Does this not leave him wide open to be called extremely light given that you are fairly commited???

ianmc38

Surely shovving AJ from CO with an M of 7 is ridiculously standard?

As for the A5 bluff, looks like one of the worst bluffs of all time.

eoin-dubh

for taking the time and effort.........
which reminds me to talk more cricket at the table...........tell me what you know about cricket......
did you call any all ins with KJ os ?

but well played and and I hope you enjoyed the Paddypower hospitality

Doc Farrell

Good man Ian, stick the boot in, ye feckin eejit!

(i hope you've stopped donking off your cash in live Omaha? we all have our secret shames.....) love ya baby, even though i'm still more handsome.

Requiem, if i won 80 grand euro in two years and a half i wouldn't give a monkeys about anyones opinion, although i might give it half an ear.

hope you enjoyed yourself man, all the pro players i admire have skin as thick as rhinos and great sense of humours. I have plenty of the latter but the former I'm still working on.

The Istanbul

Nice post Dan

Good to read BUT I do think, from this and other threads, that you react badly to any criticism or perceived criticism (FWIW: I don't think Mick was having a go in his first reply in any event). Lighten up on this one and keep posting;)

Bandara

Regardless of how you played hands etc the entire tone of your post seems to be very auto-defensive, you seem to keep going to great lengths to defend your plays before anyone has even critised them. And the ones you defend most are the ones that others have expressed opnions that you could have played them better.

You don't need to justify yourself to anyone here, everyone makes mistakes and nobody plays perfect poker.

Ul on not cashing.

YULETIRED

good post Dan, grow thick skin, i think you have the makings of atop player so pick the bones out of what mcool is saying and use it. imo you played very well and some of your thinking is top class, but like us all some of it needs some deeper analysis. Where i disagree with mccool is i would not want you at my table.......keep playing and learning, you are young and have lots to learn so who knows how good you wll be in a few year, you have the bottle anyway, which goesvery far in hold em. As for any mistakes you made, sure De Wolfe devilfish et all have made similar and worse errors........WP

Willie

The C Kid

Do people actually fold AJo button on blind against a thinking LAG. Jesus.

Nice report as well btw.

KevIRL

V good post Danny. Made for interesting reading.

What a rollercoaster couple of days. Hope you feel a little less sick today.

ul m8. If you won that one race you'd be still in there and fighting today.

ntlbell

nice report dude.

That A5 bluff looks seriously retarded, boy aint got no digits.

jayteecork

Sounds like you played well.
Unlucky.

strewelpeter

I'd echo what Yuletired says.


The clarity of your thinking under pressure is a great strength and I believe you have the ability to extend that analytical ability with experience and along with your massive online tournament experience you could really go far.
You probably do need to take a long hard look at how that future plays out with the other opportunities you have. The one thing McCool says that you need to take on board is how difficult, even unlikely it is that there is a going to be a career for you as a tournament player.

As always fck the begrudgers - your play in McCools exit hand was excellent and his comments here do him no favours.

Requiem4adream

Thanks for the replies guys. I think my tone last night was written through a prism of extreme disappointment and im sorry i reacted to the baiting. I couldnt sleep too well and was drained, so i was a little too quick to rise to McCool (although i still think his post smacks of sour grapes more than constructive criticism). The last 3 big live events i played, i played very well for long periods in each and didnt cash. I came 20th in €500 GJP deepstacks with around 12 paid , 37th or so in 1500 GJP game with 25 paid, both after around 14 levels each. Here i was playing another 14 levels to miss by a little bit, so it's demoralising to put in 40+ hours of live poker on 3 games for 3 near-bubbles.

Anyway - back to the report.... what people have to understand is i really doubted my ability to translate my online game to live poker. So reflecting on tournaments in this manner helps me analyse what i did well and what i did badly. I've left out a lot of hands from the 2 days that i played good and bad. There were many instances where i was too passive on sb, button and C/O (it's my general style), i gave too many walks and easy rides. I misplayed TT very badly on 1 occasion. In 400 or 500 hands though i'm sure everyone will make mistakes and play hands sub-optimally.

Going far in the likes of the GJP games and the I.O., and even playing a solid day in an EPT event are all things that give me some added confidence, which i didnt have for live poker. I'm not thinking of abandoning my laptop anytime soon but i wont be afraid to play these big events if i satellite in or have the $ to do so, that's the key thing i've gained from the event.

*Everyone on this forum knows i let things get to me, i'm easily offended and can get argumentative. That's in my personality and i dont see it changing much, i've always been this way. I didnt mean to get shirty with McCool last night but like i said i was disappointed, but if i went a little too far i'd like to apologise.

El Stuntman

Requiem4adream wrote: »

*Everyone on this forum knows i let things get to me, i'm easily offended and can get argumentative. That's in my personality and i dont see it changing much, i've always been this way. I didnt mean to get shirty with McCool last night but like i said i was disappointed, but if i went a little too far i'd like to apologise.

nothing to apologise for imo

nice report

AKQJ10

El Stuntman wrote: »

nothing to apologise for imo

nice report

.

DocO

in his defence, and not taking sides - ive played with mick at the ipc last year, and chatted to him again this year. he seems a nice guy. perhaps his spoke his opinion a bit too blunt (whether his opinion is correct or not, he is entitled to it).

good run in the tournie R4D and dont take these compliments so personally - nobody has to like/agree with you all the time. wp - ul

Theresalwaysone

pffffffffffft. Stick it to McCool, guy sounds very bitter.

Nice report Dan.

LfcTrev

Since im to drunk to actually play poker at the moment i said id have a read in here....if anyone else was as honest as you with the hands they played in any given tournament there would be ppl replyin to the posts tellin critizing them for certain hands aswell..

fact of the matter is ya dont get AA KK every hand and moves have gotta be made, and to win an event like this you need the luck, you need all the 50-50 pots to go your way..

so i say fair play to ya for the post, im only getting into the live event thing myself, nowhere near what your at but i think i will get there, and posts like this do help....

thanks again dude and gud luck in the future, by the sounds of it tis only a matter of time before ya have a big live event cash!

The Tourist

Thanks for the extensive report. A couple of questions:

Requiem4adream wrote: »

Thomas Fougeron, Todd and Sorel making life very difficult.

Can you expand a bit on what they were doing and why you think they were playing like this?

Requiem4adream wrote: »

Blinds are 1/2k there are 115 left in the tournament, 72 paid. ...Sorel raises to 6k from C/O, im playing 48k and shove in sb with AQo. BB hits the TIME button so to speak. Eventually clock is called and he calls after an age. Sorel folds. AQo v JJ for 100k+ pot. Top 10 in chips or out. I miss all and im out.

I can never play this hand differently. AQ is massive against Sorel's range and i cant worry about the bb. I'm not deep enough to play a flop , and even if i was i'm not going to do it OOP with AQ. Equally i dont have enough chips to 3bet/fold, so shove is my only play.

Not sure I agree with you here. 42k is still 21BB. Why not take a flop and try to get him to make a move on you if you hit?

Grafter

Mick was openly commentated on as being in a row in Galway, has just been centre stage in a rumble on the Hendon Mob and is getting involved here.

Looks like he's trying to outdo Hellmuth/Devilfish and wants sponsored as The PokerKnob.

Requiem4adream

The Tourist wrote: »

Thanks for the extensive report. A couple of questions:



Can you expand a bit on what they were doing and why you think they were playing like this?



Not sure I agree with you here. 42k is still 21BB. Why not take a flop and try to get him to make a move on you if you hit?

1 of the 3 of them were raising every other hand. Todd was quieter of the 3 but it's a constant stream of pressure. They had me locked in a vice-grip position. I was seat 2, thomas seat 5, sorel seat 7 and todd seat 9, so stealing blinds was hard. I didnt want to do anything reckless, and the few 3 bets i made in the last 2 hours of Day 1 were snapped off by Sorel's 4bets.

There's absolutely no way i can play a flop with AQ there, playing a flop is suicide. I can add 20% to my stack by shoving if they fold, and if one of them calls im most likely racing for more than a double up. I wouldnt play a flop OOP with AQ against most players and against Sorel 0% of the time.

The Tourist

Requiem4adream wrote: »

1 of the 3 of them were raising every other hand. Todd was quieter of the 3 but it's a constant stream of pressure. They had me locked in a vice-grip position. I was seat 2, thomas seat 5, sorel seat 7 and todd seat 9, so stealing blinds was hard. I didnt want to do anything reckless, and the few 3 bets i made in the last 2 hours of Day 1 were snapped off by Sorel's 4bets.

Taking Mizzi as our example, I'm trying to figure how he's making a profit with this style. I'm guessing it's a tight table for starters?

Requiem4adream wrote: »

There's absolutely no way i can play a flop with AQ there, playing a flop is suicide. I can add 20% to my stack by shoving if they fold, and if one of them calls im most likely racing for more than a double up. I wouldnt play a flop OOP with AQ against most players and against Sorel 0% of the time.

Ok. I might, but I'm not saying that's a good idea!

RoundTower

I think the AQ hand is fine. The only problem with it is you prob never have AA or KK there, I don't think that's a huge drawback. Obviously this isnt a strategy thread and you dont want advice on your hands but anyone saying stacking off there with AQ is silly is just wrong.

crip17

Grafter wrote: »

Mick was openly commentated on as being in a row in Galway, has just been centre stage in a rumble on the Hendon Mob and is getting involved here.

Looks like he's trying to outdo Hellmuth/Devilfish and wants sponsored as The PokerKnob.

A few weeks ago he did the same with blonde and had a bust up with a few

RasTa

What's your ROI in live tourneys btw Dan? Actually i was just wondering what your BR management is like as I was looking at your OPR stats on this thread and see you play the Super Tues, 215 rebuys 109+(the hardest tourney on-line!) all the way down to the 3.3+. What sort of roll are we talking to be a reg at those tourneys?

Fatboydim

For me one of the most important aspects of live tourneys is table history and that effects every hand you play. This is something you have clearly grasped Dan and fair play to you. I expect to hear a lot more about you - just work on the skin thickening process and if Mr McCool is being less than courteous - you simply have to treat it with humour.

WP.

snowy666

FWIW Dan, I like the way you play very much (I too like to rock 'n' roll somewhat:)) and tourny play seems to be overcomplicated in forums on most occasions. You need to make moves and above all else you need to be lucky - their really isn't any brain surgery about it. I'd say 90% of the guys reading have a good enough game to win a tourny, it's more a question of when, than if.

Fair play to you for airing your thought process' and gameplay.

Also, think the AQ vs. JJ slightly misses the bigger picture - if you flat call, JJ squeezes for sure and you prob. call. The only way I see you possibly escaping is a 3 bet raise of Sorel, JJ pushes and you get away from it. As said before, that's where the luck comes in.

Keep up the good work son.

Mr.Plough

Nice report. Ul

Requiem4adream

RasTa wrote: »

What's your ROI in live tourneys btw Dan? Actually i was just wondering what your BR management is like as I was looking at your OPR stats on this thread and see you play the Super Tues, 215 rebuys 109+(the hardest tourney on-line!) all the way down to the 3.3+. What sort of roll are we talking to be a reg at those tourneys?

This is all Off Topic so i dont want to get into it too much but....

I'm not sure about my Live ROI but def some sort of -%. The sample, including live tournaments in town, would be very small. I won the S.E. Xmas one a few years back for 2500 and a few others in Fitz, so i'd be +% on the live dublin scene. Big tournaments -% but ive only played 4 or 5.

As for bankroll management if i do a well sometime i'll discuss it more but i'm not properly rolled for the Super Tues, 109r etc, imo you need a 100k roll for that. To make the transition from a good tourny grinder to top mtt player requires landing a touch in 1 of these events. I nearly did that yesterday came 11th losing a huge pot AA v QQ v AJ. There are ways to skimp and save to take these shots on - e.g. can buy in to the sunday events using FPPs and use the $ saved there for other things.

Anyway like i said that's another days discussion

eagle eye

Nice report Dan. I wouldn't mind the McCool dude either, I think its just sour grapes.
I personally think that you've got game and that you can do well in live mtt's.

The only difference I see in live mtts compared to online is that the range for a lot of players is a lot tighter live than online for a lot longer, and then the opposite occurs later on, where you see players tighten up online and get looser live.

eoin-dubh

played in mondays event.......talked a bit 'bout cricket with danish guy on my left......threw him a few bouncers then moved in from sb wit 83 os (blinds were high mind you) and he folded and showed an ace (said he had poor kicker) but I told him it was a bad drop...howzat?

Requiem4adream

eoin-dubh wrote: »

played in mondays event.......talked a bit 'bout cricket with danish guy on my left......threw him a few bouncers then moved in from sb wit 83 os (blinds were high mind you) and he folded and showed an ace (said he had poor kicker) but I told him it was a bad drop...howzat?

lol not a fan of cricket i take it! Chill out.... i'd watch any/every sport that's on telly and the only sports on between 2am and 7am usually are cricket or tennis if it's Stateside/Down Under. Watched more cricket over past 3 years than an Irish lad should admit to

KevIRL

Requiem4adream wrote: »

lol not a fan of cricket i take it! Chill out.... i'd watch any/every sport that's on telly and the only sports on between 2am and 7am usually are cricket or tennis if it's Stateside/Down Under. Watched more cricket over past 3 years than an Irish lad should admit to

nuthing wrong with watching cricket at all!

eoin-dubh

Mick McCool wrote: »

Dan, thought l would make a comment fella before you lure yourself into a false sense of security whilst trying to make your fortune playing live Tournament Poker.

Firstly, l sat down at the table today and within a 40min period l knew your game. I went down to 15k along with yourself but there was a difference with my loss and yours. I was playing POKER and you where trying to, limping in early position with attractive crap and calling re raises with it when put to a decision. A J suited and then J 10 suited, these hands are barely good enough to raise with, nevermind calling 50% or 100% of your stack with. The hand with Dave when you called an ALL IN with J 10 suited was the call of a real inexperienced player as was the AJ suited.

Next, you said "I thought l could outplay him on the flops", well fair play to you on that one Dan, but from what l seen today it wont be happening to soon as my 14 year old brother has more moves. I made a move at the wrong time and you got lucky to hit such a big river after another bad call of a raise with K 7 and u still weren't sure when u called the ALL IN, stating "GOOD GAME LADS". Could u make a move like that on the river for ur whole tourney, think about it?

Good Luck with your live game Dan but don't let your EGO ruin a common sense progression like so many broke players before you. I learn everytime l sit at a table mate, l hope u will too.

Melton Mowbrey

the UK's finest pork pie manfacturers........

pork pies pork pies