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  • 22-03-2008 11:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭


    I showed someone up as a racist with 2 quotes from said person and next thing I'm banned from Military forum and the post is removed.
    To me that is well harsh.
    Post edited by Shield on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Invincible


    only right.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can you give details on what you said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Invincible wrote: »
    only right.
    Only right I showed someone up as a racist or I was right to be banned for showing someone up as a racist.
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Myth wrote: »
    Can you give details on what you said?
    Dub13 removed my post so I'll be a few minutes trying to find the quotes from alleged racist.


    /edit When I search on the persons names I've just noticed all links to the forum I was banned from are gone.....
    It's odd the way Dub13 not only banned me but removed my only defence of querying the ban.

    "and specifically, muslims freak me out. They have some pretty radical ideas about the rest of the world and lets face it, they are brought up in the media for so many wrong reasons it's absurd. So yeah, I honestly have no time for them or anything that they believe in. From what I gather mohammad was a pedophile anyway"
    Was one of the posts.

    /2nd edit
    If the above is not classed as racist I should have at least had a warning but no was a straight ban.
    Wasn't even told how long the ban was for.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah I figured that, but can you remember the gist?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    The guy had a post about wanting to join the British army to go to Afghanistan and I quoted that along with the above.....
    Maybe my 2+2=4 upset the Mod.
    Anyway to be honest I'd never visited that forum b4 so the ban won't have an effect I guess.
    I just thought it was harsh and OTT modding.

    :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    I am more or less set on joining the British Army, purely for the better equipment and the opportunity to tour in Afghanistan.



    Liar! Its because your racist and anti-Muslim.

    You are banned for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    "and specifically, muslims freak me out. They have some pretty radical ideas about the rest of the world and lets face it, they are brought up in the media for so many wrong reasons it's absurd. So yeah, I honestly have no time for them or anything that they believe in. From what I gather mohammad was a pedophile anyway"


    For how long?
    And do you never give a warning?
    Do you not find the above racist? If not surely you could have said in a PM and I would have removed it......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    You signature is too big and you've no automatic right to a warning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    I heeded warning about sig.....see my point?
    ;)


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    For how long?
    And do you never give a warning?
    Do you not find the above racist? If not surely you could have said in a PM and I would have removed it......

    First your new signature is way to big.

    The standard first ban would be for a week.

    I sometimes give a warning when a poster is close to the line,you were way over the line for a number of reasons thats why you got a ban and no warning.

    I don't find this racist...'I am more or less set on joining the British Army, purely for the better equipment and the opportunity to tour in Afghanistan.'Please point out the racist bit as its late and I could have missed it.

    No need for me to PM you and have you remove it,I did that for you just before I banned you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    But in tandem with his other post I thought THAT was racist.


    /least I got an explanantion here

    NN.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    But in tandem with his other post I thought THAT was racist.

    The other post you refer to did not happen in the Military forum therefor its not my brief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭popebenny16


    it's understandable that you can see a post that really annoys you to the point of insulting the poster.

    the problem is that, sometimes, you tend to get caught in a trap. It's a basic rule that you do not insult a poster, you retort the post. This, and believe me I know it, is not a thing that satisfy's you. If it were a real life converstaion you could let off steam and give out. You cant on the internet, and so there's two rules that you should be guided by to help:

    1. If you see a post that is offensive, report it, using the little triangle button. The mod will get an e-mail and it'll also appear in the mod forum.

    2. Attack the post, not the poster. If you do, someone else will use the reported post button and that'll inflame your anger. It's understandable.

    So, play the game. If you see an offensive post, report it. You can then quote it in your next post and say: reported. That way they know and you know what has happened and you have the satisfaction of knowing that the reported post will result in an infraction against the poster and, you, likewise, escape such a result.

    Also, its a common misconception that just because you have Moderaror after your name you are a mod of the entire site - you're not. I mod only two boards here, for example. If someone on the Who board posts racist stuff on the Farming board there is nothing i can do about it. Just the way its structured, sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Pigs, stealing our jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The only job placements for pigs are in my belly.

    popebenny16 is on the money. The poster you refer to DILLIGAF, did end up taking offence to your calling him a liar: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055260218

    The mod action was appropriate. You could have very subtly quoted the 2 offending posts, left postlinks and had your quiet laugh. But you pissed on the poster. And you cant do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Got to side somewhat with animalrights here. He was making a valid point but should of been warned about calling him a liar. Not ban worthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Overheal wrote: »

    popebenny16 is on the money.
    Yep, that's a fantastic reply.
    Especially this "2. Attack the post, not the poster."
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Overheal wrote: »
    The poster you refer to DILLIGAF, did end up taking offence to your calling him a liar: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055260218
    He did?? That link shows nothing of this? Infact I posted my "Views" late last night. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    you may be clever, and you may think youre right.



    but youre not.

    on either point.





    or funny either. we hate unfunny people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    ya da da. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    oooh. a smilie crutch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Your reply gave me no choice. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    it was an observation, and didnt invite a reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    I assume my last reply invited a reply? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭kittenkiller


    God I wish I could find a picture of the Tongue Twister Twins from Bosco.

    Ps. Don't google that with the safe search off!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Im confused. Do i have to go to afghanistan to understand whats going on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    I would if I thought it had the answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    He's clearly confused about the Muslim religion and the relationship with the Middle East and extremist factions, that doesn't necessarily make him racist merely ignorant. You could have nicely pointed that out and maybe pointed him in the right direction for information before he went there with a loaded gun, instead you just labeled him. Clearly your wrong and you deserved to be banned for trolling.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    dilligaf?

    OK animal rights: bottom line, dont feed the troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Clearly your wrong and you deserved to be banned for trolling.
    That was hardly trolling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    funny-pictures-cat-cares-about-problems.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Pednantry alert: I don't consider Muslims to be a race any more than catholics are a race or Jews are a race or atheists are a race. They are muslim human beings. Racism would require discrimination based on genetically inherited and distinctive traits which alter the appearance of the individual but do not alter their humanity.

    So a rant against a religion is not racism. Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    That was hardly trolling.

    Looking back over your posts you have clearly come to boards.ie with a massive attitude problem. You seem to concentrate on rebelling against mods decisions. In fact out of the 100 or so posts you have made about 25 of them seem to be you arguing against a ban/infraction for a trolling post made. That would make you a troll with a hatred of mods. I can't see you lasting long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    seamus wrote: »
    Pednantry alert: I don't consider Muslims to be a race any more than catholics are a race or Jews are a race or atheists are a race. They are muslim human beings. Racism would require discrimination based on genetically inherited and distinctive traits which alter the appearance of the individual but do not alter their humanity.

    So a rant against a religion is not racism. Ever.

    That may be true on paper, but we all know that most Muslims belong to a certain ethnic group, and I believe that MANY people (not all) who rant and rave about Muslims are actually targeting the 'darker than white', bearded ethnic group associated with the religion.

    What do you think Ian Paisley meant when he said that 'Catholics' breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin?

    You see, the 'religion' cloak gives bigots an opportunity to say publically in one manner what they can only say privately in another.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    Standard banning. AnimalRights it seems like you've just joined us to troll. Calm down a bit. btw my flatmate has just shipped out to afghan. Scary when it is someone you actually see every day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    That may be true on paper, but we all know that most Muslims belong to a certain ethnic group, and I believe that MANY people (not all) who rant and rave about Muslims are actually targeting the 'darker than white', bearded ethnic group associated with the religion.

    What do you think Ian Paisley meant when he said that 'Catholics' breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin?

    You see, the 'religion' cloak gives bigots an opportunity to say publically in one manner what they can only say privately in another.

    I to hate black men with beards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Looking back over your posts you have clearly come to boards.ie with a massive attitude problem. You seem to concentrate on rebelling against mods decisions. In fact out of the 100 or so posts you have made about 25 of them seem to be you arguing against a ban/infraction for a trolling post made. That would make you a troll with a hatred of mods. I can't see you lasting long.
    I feel naked and vulnerable.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I feel naked and vulnerable.
    a/s/l?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    a/s/l?


    Blind date at Coolera House tommorow night? :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    AnimalRights it seems like you've just joined us to troll.
    Most certainly not, hope your not being confused by Inspector Morsecuddlesworth.
    I joined for the Photography forum, Think I've had 2 infractions and reason there was the 2 was I didn't read the rules, The Mod PopeBenny seemed to be calm and collected and I will most certainly pick up tips from his post.
    Now to tarnish my reputation or twist my replies or have them stalked is def OTT.
    The original mod Dub13 explained here in this thread and I accepted and respected that but still busybodies keep bla bla-in........... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    Boston wrote: »
    I to hate black men with beards.


    Black men with beards pwn. Just look at Kimbo Slice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    So clearly, with even the OP taking the piss out of his own thread, the question has been cleared up. Thread closed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Most certainly not, hope your not being confused by Inspector Morsecuddlesworth.
    I joined for the Photography forum, Think I've had 2 infractions and reason there was the 2 was I didn't read the rules, The Mod PopeBenny seemed to be calm and collected and I will most certainly pick up tips from his post.

    I've said you have argued against bans and infractions, I didn't say the bans and infractions are yours. That makes it a little worse tbh.
    Now to tarnish my reputation or twist my replies or have them stalked is def OTT.

    I glanced through your post history. I would not consider that stalking. In fact its a great way to gage character and it's used as a vetting procedure for few forums here to avoid trolls. Your more then welcome to look back through mine.
    The original mod Dub13 explained here in this thread and I accepted and respected that but still busybodies keep bla bla-in........... :rolleyes:

    Sorry but I hate to see people site banned since this site is a great resource for Irish people. It was more of a friendly warning then butting in and I'm glad that the situation was cleared up for you.


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