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End to Exclusive Broadband Provision in Appartments?

  • 21-03-2008 4:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭


    Any views on whether Ireland should follow the US/UK and ban deals where a property developer or management company can enter into/maintain exclusive deals with a specific broadband operator?

    US: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/technology/20fcc.html

    UK: Section 96, Telecommunications Act 1984 (as amended)

    Cases have arisen in Park West, IFSC, Smithfield and other areas where the developer 'forces' a new tenant/owner to use a specific operator.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    This was recommended to the government by their own civil servants in 2002 and is part of the strategy document from which the MANs came. It it called new beginnings or something pompous like that ??
    rardagh wrote: »
    Any views on whether Ireland should follow the US/UK and ban deals where a property developer or management company can enter into/maintain exclusive deals with a specific broadband operator?

    Successive ministers of the environment , including dempsey cullen and roche have not amended the building regulations as recommended to include carrier neutral ducting and to mandate that works done through or on the ducts do not in any way prevent access to the premises by another carrier.

    Nor have they put it in any planning act post 2002 if an amended building regulation were not statutorily possible.

    Owners of industrial and business parks should also be mandated to provide carrier neutral ducts to all their tenants and lessees and to each subdivision that they sell, gratis . Many of these scumbags hold their tenants to ransom :(

    Tragically we as a country have built at least 20% of the national housing stock since the civil service recommended the ducting measure in 2002 and they have nothing of use bar a few fibred estates where the work was done by a reputable carrier instead of a cowboy .

    Gormley should be leaned upon to change the building regulations AND the standard guidlines to planners as soon as possible although feck all will be built for a long long time hence seeing as we have about 300,000 empty homes dotted around :(

    Existing eircom ducts should be retrospectively made carrier neutral as well. Technically on a modern housing estate, they belong to the management company or the lcoal council and not eircom ....seeing as eircom never paid for them .

    Horse bolted door stable :confused: etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Oh and not that :

    1. I believe the mendacious weasel
    2. That his department has anything useful to do with anything useful as a core value

    Ryan said this in the Dáil last week

    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=DAL20080312.xml&Node=H12-2#H12-2
    The Government will have a crucial role in stimulating demand, supporting where the market cannot deliver, ensuring we use existing assets in a co-ordinated way, particularly in backhaul or inducting, and changing building regulations so that all new buildings are future proofed and existing buildings are retrofitted.

    The primary response will come from a competitive market here.We are seeing developments in that area. We have a more competitive market between cable companies, fixed line operators, mobile operators, 3G operators

    But he never mentioned outside ducting as if it did not matter ....or more likely that he does not understand the importance of it .

    Simon Coveney did not play silly buggers either
    On the same issue, I agree with the Minister’s last comments. The State’s job is to facilitate competition in this area and, where there is market failure, to subsidise where necessary.

    By doing things such as building regulations to require ducting into every house and business that is being built in the country, we facilitate competition.

    By setting up an audit to maximise existing infrastructure, we facilitate a more proactive, aggressive and competitive market place, which is what consumers and business people want. In areas where there may be market failure, and where we are applying the national broadband strategy, will whoever wins the tender process for the national broadband strategy be required to provide next generation access to rural parts of the country or will it be the speeds that we are embarrassed about in Ireland?

    Then Deppity Noel Coonan lepped up , jesus wept where do we get these gobdaws :(
    The Minister speaks of rural Ireland as if it were an alien planet.

    It has an extensive telephone system, but :eek: people cannot get broadband connections because the Government has not invested in upgrading lines. :eek:

    On a regional road near Larha in north Tipperary, :eek:a person cannot get a chip and pin service because the telephone is too far from the exchange and the line is out of date.:eek:

    The Minister referred to a tree trunk.

    Taking Thurles, a large provincial town, as an example, there is no trunk because no tree was planted.

    I would probably feel more comfortable discussing eugenics with that man .....rather than physics :(


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