Sheamus O'Shaunessy in todays Irish times

fatal

The article is on page 7 of the sports supplement(separate to the main paper).

To summarise:

--The article introduces Sheamus to those who are not familiar with him-Stephen farrelly a former IT technician whose first exposure to pro wrestling was when he met Bret Hart.

--Sheamus mentions that a neck injury in 2002 while training with "monster factory" nearly cost him his career and that he stayed away from wrestling until IWW started. He goes on to talk about character development and how he's not trying to associate with the stereotypical character associated with the Irish.

--On the subject of drugs in wrestling, the journalist described WWEs drugs policy and "lenient" and mentions names such as Eddie Guererro, Curt hennig, Davey boy smith, Rick rude and Chris benoit in relation to "premature deaths in wrestling". Sheamus mentions that he has been tested 3 times in the previous 6 months for drugs and that "it is great that such a process is in place as it levels the playing field.I'm working my ass of here so I want to know that I'm not up against any unfair disadvantages".

--The journalist then recalls Ricky Steamboat beating Savage for the title at WM3 when Rick's name pops up in the conversation.

--The article concludes with Sheamus mentioning that he is currently 3 months into a developmental contract with WWE and how he hopes that by next September he will be a "permanent fixture"

The article take up half of the page with a big picture of Sheamus at the sundance film festival (in Utah).With the exception of the podge and rodge show,this has been one of the biggest exposures that he's gotten so far in Ireland.
Good luck to him!

EdK

fatal wrote: »

The article is on page 7 of the sports supplement(separate to the main paper).

To summarise:

--The article introduces Sheamus to those who are not familiar with him-Stephen farrelly a former IT technician whose first exposure to pro wrestling was when he met with Bret Hart.

--Sheamus mentions that a neck injury in 2002 while training with "monster factory" nearly cost him his career and that he stayed away from wrestling until IWW started. He goes on to talk about character development and how he's not trying to associate with the stereotypical character associated with the Irish.

--On the subject of drugs in wrestling, the journalist described WWEs drugs policy and "lenient" and mentions names such as Eddie Guererro, Curt hennig, Davey boy smith, Rick rude and Chris benoit in relation to "premature deaths in wrestling". Sheamus mentions that he has been tested 3 times in the previous 6 months for drugs and that "it is great that such a process is in place as it levels the playing field.I'm working my ass of here so I want to know that I'm not up against any unfair disadvantages".

--The journalist then recalls Ricky Steamboat beating Savage for the title at WM3 when Rick's name pops up in the conversation.

--The article concludes with Sheamus mentioning that he is currently 3 months into a developmental contract with WWE and how he hopes that by next September he will be a "permanent fixture"

The article take up half of the page with a big picture of Sheamus at the sundance film festival (in Utah).With the exception of the podge and rodge show,this has been one of the biggest exposures that he's gotten so far in Ireland.
Good luck to him!

The bolded bit seems like a lie to me

fatal

EdK wrote: »

The bolded bit seems like a lie to me

I smirked when I read that bit myself.At 6ft6 280lbs he obviously wouldn't try to be a leprechaun.To me it seems that he has gone for the less stereotypical irish charachter which he has based around "irish mythology".With Vince's fascination with big guys and monsters,who can blame him....

Fozzy

Fair play to him. I'll read it later if I remember

krudler

tag team with him and Finlay if he gets called up? makes perfect sense and itd do him good to have a veteran like finlay, hell they could even say hes Hornswoggles big brother

Handsome Bob

EdK wrote: »

The bolded bit seems like a lie to me

Whether it's a lie or not, I believe it is inevitable that the WWE, if he is used, will force him to adapt a stereotypical character. One thing I'd hate to see would be a catholic v protestant angle between him and Finlay.

fatal

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Whether it's a lie or not, I believe it is inevitable that the WWE, if he is used, will force him to adapt a stereotypical character. One thing I'd hate to see would be a catholic v protestant angle between him and Finlay.

Thats kind of far fetched.Infact they would do the opposite and stick them together as tag team partners

Bounty Hunter

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Whether it's a lie or not, I believe it is inevitable that the WWE, if he is used, will force him to adapt a stereotypical character. One thing I'd hate to see would be a catholic v protestant angle between him and Finlay.

If the WWE were interested in going along a route like that im sure they would have already had Finlay vs Regal in an Ireland vs England angle.

Handsome Bob

fatal wrote: »

Thats kind of far fetched.Infact they would do the opposite and stick them together as tag team partners

I would hate to see it. But is it that far-fetched? Far-fetched for a company that has a midget running around pretending to be a leprauchan and drinking cans of guinness? WWE has no fear of potentially offending people so I wouldn't be surprised. I would not want to see him tag with Finlay and having horrible matches with Deuce/Domino or Jesse/ Festus.

Handsome Bob

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

If the WWE were interested in going along a route like that im sure they would have already had Finlay vs Regal in an Ireland vs England angle.

But I think Finlay is protestant. Also I think originally Finlay was always meant to be heel, and for an angle like that to work Regal would have to be heel aswell. You could not have 2 heels in an angle like that.

Vince135792003

LZ5by5 wrote: »

One thing I'd hate to see would be a catholic v protestant angle between him and Finlay.

Will never happen because leaving aside the obvious offence it would cause, 99.99% of people who watch wrestling would not care in my opinion. Religion doesn't draw. At least not religious issues from another country other than America that have essentially been settled for the best part of 10 years.

fatal

just imagine how they would set up such a storyline.Im sure it would have to involve one of them cutting a promo saying something along the lines of "you catholic/protestant wanker,I want a match......"
NEVER going to happen

DRakE

LZ5by5 wrote: »

drinking cans of guinness?

when?

Handsome Bob

DRakE wrote: »

when?

Ah it would have last year, Hornswoggle came from beneath the ring and gave JBL one of his cans of guinness, which JBL proceeded to 'drink' straight.:rolleyes:

Again that I have to stress this fatal but I don't want such an angle to ever happen. All I am saying it is possible from a company that

• Uses Incest
• Uses Necrophilia
• Uses Leprechauns
• Uses 'other worldly' characters
• A company that has always, ALWAYS, concentrated on stereotypes.

McMahon has the balls to refer to his problems with Congress on live tv, I am sure he would'nt be worried to offend people. Afterall, that is how he made his fortune.

Hmmmmm That story has changed alot in the last few years .

Bubs101

A catholic Protestant feud would be fantastic. You could have it end on a TV show in Scotland with one of them wearing a Cetic jersey and one a Rangers, winner has to rip off the other one's shirt and spit on it. the crowd would go crazy

fatal

Bubs101 wrote: »

A catholic Protestant feud would be fantastic. You could have it end on a TV show in Scotland with one of them wearing a Cetic jersey and one a Rangers, winner has to rip off the other one's shirt and spit on it. the crowd would go crazy

the crowd wouldn't know what was going on......

Tricity Bendix

They could use Jericho's 'segregation match' idea (read the book, its great), only call it a 'partition match'.

Bubs101

fatal wrote: »

the crowd wouldn't know what was going on......

Thats why I suggested holding it in Scotland next time one of the tours go around

It would only really work on tour, It would be waisted in America.

Bubs101

Well needless to say I was taking the piss. They could never hold it in Scotland anyway. Imagine the crowd trouble if someone wearing a Celtic shirt spat on a Rangers one or Vice Versa

citytillidie

I dont think Finlay is protestant either *I could be wrong* but his entrance video there is a tri colour on it.

Fozzy

citytillidie wrote: »

I dont think Finlay is protestant either *I could be wrong* but his entrance video there is a tri colour on it.

He's from a Protestant town, so there's about an 80% chance that he is. Not that it matters in any way

the flananator

I'm pretty sure he's Unionist. I could be wrong. I wouldn't take his entrance video for gospel either, he is playing a character afterall.

citytillidie

Yea i guess does not matter but if they did a religious thing based on Northern Ireland then i would really turn it off.

I remember WCW did have and match with Finlay and Regal in Ireland V England

flahavaj

Bubs101 wrote: »

A catholic Protestant feud would be fantastic. You could have it end on a TV show in Scotland with one of them wearing a Cetic jersey and one a Rangers, winner has to rip off the other one's shirt and spit on it. the crowd would go crazy

More to the point, the residents of Pearse St would be apopletic with rage.:eek:

Handsome Bob

Do I have to keep on reiterating that I would HATE an angle like that, but I wouldn't be surprised one bit at the WWE if they did do it.

Since some of you seem to be all knowing, what do you all think his gimmick will be if he makes it to tv? Since some of you seem to think he won't be playing a stereotypical Irish person what suggestions do you have? I predict 0:p

Fozzy

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Since some of you seem to be all knowing, what do you all think his gimmick will be if he makes it to tv? Since some of you seem to think he won't be playing a stereotypical Irish person what suggestions do you have? I predict 0:p

If they don't team him with Finlay/Hornswoggle (some people seem to think it's a given that he will), I wouldn't be surprised if he just does the ancient celtic warrior gimmick. There's no way they'll just have him as a regular guy if he makes tv (like DH Smith/Cody Rhodes) because he does look out of the ordinary for what you usually see on WWE tv

I don't know if that gimmick would be stereotypical of the Irish and I don't know if it would end up good or bad, but WWE will have to play up some aspect of his Irishness and his unique look if he makes it to tv

flahavaj

Fozzy wrote: »

I don't know if that gimmick would be stereotypical of the Irish and I don't know if it would end up good or bad, but WWE will have to play up some aspect of his Irishness and his unique look if he makes it to tv

They will also need to give him a charisma transplant, he's one of the most wooden characters I've ever seen.

Ham'nd'egger

Fozzy wrote: »

If they don't team him with Finlay/Hornswoggle (some people seem to think it's a given that he will), I wouldn't be surprised if he just does the ancient celtic warrior gimmick. There's no way they'll just have him as a regular guy if he makes tv (like DH Smith/Cody Rhodes) because he does look out of the ordinary for what you usually see on WWE tv

I don't know if that gimmick would be stereotypical of the Irish and I don't know if it would end up good or bad, but WWE will have to play up some aspect of his Irishness and his unique look if he makes it to tv

Of course, there is no guarantee that he will be given an "Irish" gimmick should he appear on TV (If he even makes TV) so it somewhat speculative to assume just yet. Celtic warriors are not essentially the sort of thing on the top of peoples heads so it wouldn't be the way to go IMO; remember that it is aimed at American audiences firstly.

Vince135792003

Hamndegger wrote: »

Celtic warriors are not essentially the sort of thing on the top of peoples heads so it wouldn't be the way to go IMO; .

I dunno, I mean wrestling has a history of "warriors" who got over so it could be successful or at least a line of thinking they go with.

Clay Davis

Bubs101 wrote: »

Well needless to say I was taking the piss. They could never hold it in Scotland anyway. Imagine the crowd trouble if someone wearing a Celtic shirt spat on a Rangers one or Vice Versa

Isn't it only smelly knackers who get worked up over a ghey football fued? Your average sensible person would give a sh*t.

Handsome Bob

Clay Davis wrote: »

Isn't it only smelly knackers who get worked up over a ghey football fued? Your average sensible person would give a sh*t.

Actually, many 'casuals', or football hooligans in other words, are middle class 9 to 5 kind of people.

Clay Davis

LZ5by5 wrote: »

football hooligans are middle class 9 to 5 kind of people.

Bullsh*t.

Handsome Bob

Clay Davis wrote: »

Bullsh*t.

Trust me, I know what I am talking about. Hooligans, or casuals, come from all walks of life. There are guys who leave their office and go to a match to cause trouble, and then there are guys who hang around drinking cans all day who go to matches to cause trouble.

Clay Davis

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Trust me, I know what I am talking about. Hooligans, or casuals, come from all walks of life. There are guys who leave their office and go to a match to cause trouble, and then there are guys who hang around drinking cans all day who go to matches to cause trouble.

And? Like I said; that makes them smelly knackers IMO, no matter what their background. Anyone who gets worked up enough about a poxy soccer team to have a fight over it, is a sad and pathetic loser, IMO. I mean, seriously... get a life.

Handsome Bob

Clay Davis wrote: »

And? Like I said; that makes them smelly knackers IMO, no matter what their background. Anyone who gets worked up enough about a poxy soccer team to have a fight over it, is a sad and pathetic loser, IMO. I mean, seriously... get a life.

Many hooligans don't even care half as much as they would claim about a football team. For many of them football is there excuse for kicking the **** out of each other.

Ham'nd'egger

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I dunno, I mean wrestling has a history of "warriors" who got over so it could be successful or at least a line of thinking they go with.

Warrior as in The Bezerker (Cliched viking), Yokozuma (Cliched fat sumo wrestler), Tatanka (Cliched red indian), Saba Simba (Cliched African tribesman), any amount of "devious Japanese/samurai/martial artists (Kwang anybody ) ?

There isn't many Warrior archetypes in Celtic Mythology that would be accepted and easy to get over with the average American wrestling fan, and at that you are trying the get somebody over a wholly imaginary character. Solid, rock solid accepted stereotypes or facts are what you need to build a gimmick over, you need the hard cash of something to buy into the character and be able to sell it; it's the commodity of making it work. That's why Hornswoggle got over with Finlay; everybody associates Ireland with leprechauns so it just works.

It would be easier to get an Irishman over as a ceílí musician, long lost nephew of JFK or a navvie than Fionn Macúl's heir or the owner of Guinness or some sword yielding chieftan as it's almost inbred it's so stereotypical. Granted, it would work over here, but in America or Japan?

Vince135792003

Hamndegger wrote: »

Warrior as in The Bezerker (Cliched viking), Yokozuma (Cliched fat sumo wrestler), Tatanka (Cliched red indian), Saba Simba (Cliched African tribesman), any amount of "devious Japanese/samurai/martial artists (Kwang anybody ) ?

There was also the Road Warriors and Kerry Von Erich the Modern Day Warrior. There was nothing in the gimmick but guys that looked athletic/tough. So he could just be a tough guy from Ireland with the nickname "Celtic Warrior" like Steve Collins was called when he boxed.

ibFoxer

Fozzy wrote: »

He's from a Protestant town, so there's about an 80% chance that he is. Not that it matters in any way

I'm almost 100% sure he is Catholic, i remember having this conversation with some of my mates before. Also i'm fairly sure Findlay, his real name, is a Catholic name.....I could very well be wrong and by all means correct me if i am........

And your right, it does'nt matter.

Bounty Hunter

wellcome foxerv1

EdK

SOS was at the HOF, Drew Galloway was wearing a kilt haha

DeadParrot

He also needs a new moveset.
That WAR SWORD is the worst move I've seen.