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Help me choose a new site....

  • 19-03-2008 12:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I need a new site/network for a fresh deposit... My beef at the moment is iPoker disconnects all the time on my 3 wireless BB connection so it's not an option, stars is fine but there's no RB or deposit bonuses.BTW I can't even connect to Full tilt. I will mostly be playing NL cash also.

    So what I feel I need in terms of priorities are:

    1. Reasonably reliable/stable network/skin
    2. Deposit Bonus and/or RB
    3. Decent Traffic.

    Any help/recommendations are greatly appreciated.

    Regards,
    Richie


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Kannon


    i'm in the same boat and i'm thinking of giving Everest poker a shot. I've heard good reports about it, decent software etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Cake poker?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭sickpuppy


    Cake poker has good traffic at nl games in the evening.
    500SIGN UP 33% RAKE back AS WELL.
    I find a lot of connection problems but like the fact its not poker tracker complient which means u not playing 16tablin rake whores like on ipoker.
    Most of the players are from usa most skins are big us sports books too so why not give it a shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    sickpuppy wrote: »
    ....but like the fact its not poker tracker complient which means u not playing 16tablin rake whores like on ipoker.
    Are there many tables running at .50/1 and 1/2?
    Do any other PT type programs work there or are they going to work there soon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭sickpuppy


    plenty of table impsoter dont ask for exact amount not sure cant answer what the future holds for it keeps the grinders away which is all i care about.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭yeah-buddy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭BetdaqPokerMgr


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    Ross.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭nice1franko


    pkr.com ftw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    coillcam wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I need a new site/network for a fresh deposit... My beef at the moment is iPoker disconnects all the time on my 3 wireless BB connection so it's not an option, stars is fine but there's no RB or deposit bonuses.BTW I can't even connect to Full tilt. I will mostly be playing NL cash also.

    So what I feel I need in terms of priorities are:

    1. Reasonably reliable/stable network/skin
    2. Deposit Bonus and/or RB
    3. Decent Traffic.

    Any help/recommendations are greatly appreciated.

    Regards,
    Richie

    sounds more like a broadband problem. If you can't get on to FTP its not a Ipoker issue. Have you got any security on the broadband? I had a similiar problem and it was the connection. Do you get the same problems with it connect my cable? if not, your problem is the wireless router, which is a security issue or poor quality modem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Ollieboy wrote: »
    sounds more like a broadband problem. If you can't get on to FTP its not a Ipoker issue. Have you got any security on the broadband? I had a similiar problem and it was the connection. Do you get the same problems with it connect my cable? if not, your problem is the wireless router, which is a security issue or poor quality modem.

    It's definitely my 3 Wireless Broadband modem without question, I'm not setup through a router. That's the issue.

    Full Tilt won't connect at all. All the sites works fine through a LAN cable type connection such as NTL etc. Just looking for a site that suits my connection mainly as I don't plan on getting a different ISP anytime soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    perhaps this should be in the sticky because any time someone asks "need a new site to play on, where should I go?" most of the responders just stick in whatever site they are playing on at the moment, mixed in with the occasional shill. Even when the OP makes it very clear as in this instance what his priorities are for a site.

    The sticky could say something like

    Q. What site should I play on?
    A. Here is a list of poker sites. For more information on any of them, ask the site/your affiliate/bonus whores/pokersitescout.


    • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭WECpoker


      I have a list of personal choices for both site and trusted rakeback/propping provider (including games/limits played and deposit options)

      I would give you a more specific opinion based on my experience but you dont state what your playing preferences are.....

      Right now there are some good deals with the "trusted" 2nd tier sites so I would go with one of them as opposed to Stars and Full Tilt, but those are excellent sites as well obviously

      (Note: You will see I have Ultimate Bet on my recommended List. I still recommend the site during the current controversy because it offers many poker options and promotions, and many top players I know are still playing at the site. But I am keeping up on the current events)


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrPreachan


      I had same problems as OP with Ipoker, micro etc, using 3 broadband so recently moved to Party, very rare dc, so massive improvement. I cant speak for any of the others as of yet.


    • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭WECpoker


      coillcam wrote: »
      Hi all,

      I need a new site/network for a fresh deposit... My beef at the moment is iPoker disconnects all the time on my 3 wireless BB connection so it's not an option, stars is fine but there's no RB or deposit bonuses.BTW I can't even connect to Full tilt. I will mostly be playing NL cash also.

      So what I feel I need in terms of priorities are:

      1. Reasonably reliable/stable network/skin
      2. Deposit Bonus and/or RB
      3. Decent Traffic.

      Any help/recommendations are greatly appreciated.

      Regards,
      Richie
      WECpoker wrote: »
      I have a list of personal choices for both site and trusted rakeback/propping provider (including games/limits played and deposit options)

      I would give you a more specific opinion based on my experience but you dont state what your playing preferences are.....

      Right now there are some good deals with the "trusted" 2nd tier sites so I would go with one of them as opposed to Stars and Full Tilt, but those are excellent sites as well obviously

      (Note: You will see I have Ultimate Bet on my recommended List. I still recommend the site during the current controversy because it offers many poker options and promotions, and many top players I know are still playing at the site. But I am keeping up on the current events)

      I would have to say my choices for you for a NEW poker room would be:

      Ultimate Bet (due to No Limit Game Choices - Bonus is large but best rate is a little over $1.50/hr - but no time limit/expiration on bonus)

      Carbon (provide various/different nice Promotions every month - Nice Bonus)

      PokerTime (Microgaming) First off--choose a Fortune Lounge Skin (PokerTime, Royal Vegas, 7 Sultans) but besides traffic is prety small, some real juicy NL esp if you love 6 max---They have great promotions at PokerTime including give away $25K every month in loyalty bonus based on leaderboard points (cash/mtt) and a $500 Bonus Program, and $7K Freerolls three times a month

      Cake (Nice alternative - lot of fish even with some players coming in to scoop them up)

      Sun Poker - (CryptoLogic) I like Sun--They have a new $500 a month promotion without having to make new deposits--If you like a room with LESS fish--and more experienced players this is a good choice

      Mansion - (Ongame) Good Room, even better if you like overlays on MTTs


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


      RoundTower wrote: »
      perhaps this should be in the sticky because any time someone asks "need a new site to play on, where should I go?" most of the responders just stick in whatever site they are playing on at the moment, mixed in with the occasional shill. Even when the OP makes it very clear as in this instance what his priorities are for a site.

      The sticky could say something like

      Q. What site should I play on?
      A. Here is a list of poker sites. For more information on any of them, ask the site/your affiliate/bonus whores/pokersitescout.
        Actually a very good idea, at least to add it to the Poker guide so people can just be referred there, anyone care to write it up, or even start it and I can put it in there, maybe people could review the site they currently play on and I could combine them all (giving credit obviously to everyone that writes up a review!! :D)


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭coillcam


        Thanks for all the help guys and lurkers:pac:, I'm switching jobs in the next couple of weeks so I won't be up to much until that gets sorted, I'll go through all the options over the next couple of days and get back into the swing of things.

        Cheers,
        Richie


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


        WECpoker wrote: »
        I would have to say my choices for you for a NEW poker room would be:

        Ultimate Bet (due to No Limit Game Choices - Bonus is large but best rate is a little over $1.50/hr - but no time limit/expiration on bonus)

        Carbon (provide various/different nice Promotions every month - Nice Bonus)

        PokerTime (Microgaming) First off--choose a Fortune Lounge Skin (PokerTime, Royal Vegas, 7 Sultans) but besides traffic is prety small, some real juicy NL esp if you love 6 max---They have great promotions at PokerTime including give away $25K every month in loyalty bonus based on leaderboard points (cash/mtt) and a $500 Bonus Program, and $7K Freerolls three times a month

        Cake (Nice alternative - lot of fish even with some players coming in to scoop them up)

        Sun Poker - (CryptoLogic) I like Sun--They have a new $500 a month promotion without having to make new deposits--If you like a room with LESS fish--and more experienced players this is a good choice

        Mansion - (Ongame) Good Room, even better if you like overlays on MTTs

        Hi Wecpoker, what are these recommendations based on?

        Recommending people to play on UltimateBet is obviosuly related to your business. I would recommend that noone play on UB. There security systems have obviously been compromsied allowing people to steal other players money. Recommending a site that allows this is disgusting.

        As for Carbon poker, there is very little traffic even at peak times. Should anyone want to play there they can get standard 30% rb on the site or else they can get prop deals from the big rakeback providers such as rake the rake who provide 120% rakeback for prop players. Even a .50/1 player will do well to get 2 tables going on the Merge network.


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭SuperHans


        Surprised no-one has mentioned the Boss network. Check out some of their skins. Many offer rakeback, but I'm not sure whether or not the deposit bonus can be cleared concurrently. Decent traffic too.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭coillcam


        SuperHans wrote: »
        Surprised no-one has mentioned the Boss network. Check out some of their skins. Many offer rakeback, but I'm not sure whether or not the deposit bonus can be cleared concurrently. Decent traffic too.

        Boss short handed tables are 5max and the interface is frustratingly clunky imo


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭WECpoker


        WECpoker wrote: »
        (Note: You will see I have Ultimate Bet on my recommended List. I still recommend the site during the current controversy because it offers many poker options and promotions, and many top players I know are still playing at the site. But I am keeping up on the current events)
        ianmc38 wrote: »
        Hi Wecpoker, what are these recommendations based on?

        Recommending people to play on UltimateBet is obviosuly related to your business. I would recommend that noone play on UB. There security systems have obviously been compromsied allowing people to steal other players money. Recommending a site that allows this is disgusting.

        As for Carbon poker, there is very little traffic even at peak times. Should anyone want to play there they can get standard 30% rb on the site or else they can get prop deals from the big rakeback providers such as rake the rake who provide 120% rakeback for prop players. Even a .50/1 player will do well to get 2 tables going on the Merge network.

        My recommendations are based on over 20 years of playing poker, including Online Poker since it was introduced at Planet Poker in 1998 and time spent on the California Tourny Circuit and my travels to many B&M Casinos to play Ring Games in the States (I also recommend Live Casinos).

        Apparently you didnt bother to read my note on UB. But since I know many pros and experienced players that continue to play at the site, I still recommend it. Maybe you know better than them. If people feel uncomfortable playing there I dont blame them, but IMO they may be wasting profitable opportunities.

        As far as recommending based on my business, I only recommend 11 Online Poker Sites (including UB which also includes Absolute Poker in their affiliate programme yet I do not recommend them-although many experienced players and pros also continue to play on AP) and could include a ton more if it was about business alone. My site is emailed daily to request new relationships.

        Carbon - For being a new poker site on a relatively young network, Carbon Poker already sports decent player volume, with the most players active at European peak hours. Because a lot of the players are beginners, the skill level is relatively low at most games, making them profitable for skilled players.

        Real-money player statistics as of March 2008 show 500 ring-game players and 2,000 tournament players at peak hours.

        Hence the Carbon Recommendations


        ianmc38 wrote: »
        Even a .50/1 player will do well to get 2 tables going on the Merge network.

        Hmmm, on a Very Early Monday Morning in Ireland I see 5 full .50/1 NL tables and about 15 .25/.50 so I can only imagine there would be more than 2 .50/1 in the evening....Maybe you need to check your facts a little better.


        Just curious, Since you are disgusted by UB....How do you feel about people who violate Poker Sites TOS agreements with affiliates and players by offering illegal rakeback deals? I can understand most people would respond that its different if the affiliates/players are cheating or breaking the sites rules.


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      • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭WECpoker


        Just cause I was curious

        Current Carbon Cash NL play:

        9 .50/1 games
        8 .25/.50 games


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


        Every poker player should avoid Absolute and Ultimate Bet as a matter of policy. There is a vast difference between a site offering rakeback when its unavailable on the network and a sites CEOs using an account to steal millions of dollars from people. WECPoker you should shill your business interests elsewhere instead of recommending those 2 scumholes to genuine poker players.

        For any MSNL players, the Merge network has an incredible 2 2/4 NL tables, one of which is playing hu, 1 5/10 NL table playing 3 handed and 1 1/2 NL table. It also has an incredible 5 .50/1 6 max tables going, some of which are shorthanded.

        So as long as you dont care about game selection or playing very few tables, most of which will be shorthanded, then join Carbon poker.


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭WECpoker


        ianmc38 wrote: »
        Every poker player should avoid Absolute and Ultimate Bet as a matter of policy. There is a vast difference between a site offering rakeback when its unavailable on the network and a sites CEOs using an account to steal millions of dollars from people. WECPoker you should shill your business interests elsewhere instead of recommending those 2 scumholes to genuine poker players.

        For any MSNL players, the Merge network has an incredible 2 2/4 NL tables, one of which is playing hu, 1 5/10 NL table playing 3 handed and 1 1/2 NL table. It also has an incredible 5 .50/1 6 max tables going, some of which are shorthanded.

        So as long as you dont care about game selection or playing very few tables, most of which will be shorthanded, then join Carbon poker.

        My honesty and integrety in the online poker world is well-known....I dont recommend things to people based solely on personal profit. And on most occassions I refer people with zero personal benefit because it is the right thing to do.

        As I stated, I am not schilling anything...I am giving my personal opinion. I have an account on UB.....and I still recommend playing there until further developments arise. If you feel it isnt a smart idea, then I honor your opinion on the matter.

        As I stated, many others dont share your opinion on the matter as many experienced, knowledgable players still play on UB. My friend just won $18,500 in UBs 200K.....He is a top online player and not leaving UB anytime soon...

        But keep making your baseless accusations with either Zero or wrong facts.

        Like this one....
        ianmc38 wrote: »
        Even a .50/1 player will do well to get 2 tables going on the Merge network.



        Although there is certainly a difference, cheating is cheating in my book. But I guess it certainly is different when its someones business doing the cheating for its own benefit.....Last I checked many sites will close down affiliates and close rakeback for players when these schemes are discovered. SO I can see you are concerned about the welfare of the players....
        ianmc38 wrote: »
        There is a vast difference between a site offering rakeback when its unavailable on the network


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter


        Pay for an ad for your site?


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


        So WecPoker you think that in spite of Absolute pokers CEO and founders cheating players such as myself and every other member of boards.ie poker forum out of millions of dollars, we should continue to play there? Is that from a personal point of view or is it because you are an affiliate for the site and therefore make money out of people playing there?

        Do you think the opinion of a "pro" who won 5 figures there recently is enough of a justification to continue advertising and playing on a site which has stolen from its customers and attempted to cover up the story by burshing it under the carpet?

        You say cheating is cheating in your book. Are you saying that you classify the provision of rakeback and the use of superuser accounts as the same thing (in your book of course)?


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


        WECpoker can you make it clear what conflicts of interest you have in the online poker world? Or link to where you did this before? I assumed the advice in this thread was from a poker player's point of view, not a shill's, but you can correct me if I got that wrong.


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭WECpoker


        RoundTower wrote: »
        WECpoker can you make it clear what conflicts of interest you have in the online poker world? Or link to where you did this before? I assumed the advice in this thread was from a poker player's point of view, not a shill's, but you can correct me if I got that wrong.

        Sure

        I post here from a poker players point of view (with the caveat that in many cases I am an affilate of the rooms I recommend- because I choose to recommend these rooms) Wouldnt matter to me if I dropped any of the rooms, since Im not making any money in this venture atm. The fact that nothing truly benefits me unless you go on my site and actually link through, I dont think would have any effect on me posting to some player what I thought might benefit him as a player. Now if I followed it up with a PM begging him to join under my name, I think would be a totally different story.

        As far as recommending UB...I made a post with a caveat that I was aware of the problems, was monitoring them, but given what is known so far I would recommend playing there based on the total picture. The fact that many well-known players and pros I respect have not left is an overriding factor (and the fact they have had no problems paying people who ask to withdraw).

        I have been a member of several forums and posted advice long before I had a website. You can accept it at face value or not, your choice.

        If some guy has a Moral Problem with playing at UB then he can yell about it all he wants, I just care where people can make money playing poker, I do not masquerade as the preacher here on poker divinity.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


        he doesn't have a moral problem with playing on UB as far as I can see, he advises others not to play on sites owned and managed by people who might cheat you. I think you will agree that this is sound advice, you can only disagree in how far you should take it. In other words it appears you feel that UB's games really are soft enough to make it worth the risk of being cheated, and it appears that Ian disagrees.


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭WECpoker


        RoundTower wrote: »
        he doesn't have a moral problem with playing on UB as far as I can see, he advises others not to play on sites owned and managed by people who might cheat you. I think you will agree that this is sound advice, you can only disagree in how far you should take it. In other words it appears you feel that UB's games really are soft enough to make it worth the risk of being cheated, and it appears that Ian disagrees.

        Close enough......

        I dont think there is much of a chance of being cheated quite honestly (besides the normal collection of colluders, cheaters etc you find at any poker site)


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