Tracking a scope on a Rifle

ernieb

Hi Folks, First time posting in this section of boards. If I'm not posting this in the correct area let me know.

I have a brno .22 rifle with a scope. The tracking on the scope appears to be off. I'm having some trouble fine tuning it. Anyone know someone/somewhere that I can drop it in to ? I'm living near the Scarriff/Bodyke area. I bought the rifle in Lucan so its a bit of trek to be bringing back up.

Any help much appreciated.

foxshooter243

ernieb wrote: »

Hi Folks, First time posting in this section of boards. If I'm not posting this in the correct area let me know.

I have a brno .22 rifle with a scope. The tracking on the scope appears to be off. I'm having some trouble fine tuning it. Anyone know someone/somewhere that I can drop it in to ? I'm living near the Scarriff/Bodyke area. I bought the rifle in Lucan so its a bit of trek to be bringing back up.

Any help much appreciated.

what type of scope is it and are you sure its down to tracking-did you check the tracking against a collimator?

ernieb

Hi foxshooter,

Thanks for getting back to me. The scope came with it, so I presumed it was a brno scope (I could well be wrong). I'll check that out and post an update later on.

I have'nt tested it against a collimator. Not entirely sure where I could get access one to one. Let alone know how to use it

I know there is a hunting/fishing shop in Ennis. Does anyone know if they do repairs etc on rifles that were purchased elsewhere?

foxshooter243

ernieb wrote: »

Hi foxshooter,

Thanks for getting back to me. The scope came with it, so I presumed it was a brno scope (I could well be wrong). I'll check that out and post an update later on.

I have'nt tested it against a collimator. Not entirely sure where I could get access one to one. Let alone know how to use it

I know there is a hunting/fishing shop in Ennis. Does anyone know if they do repairs etc on rifles that were purchased elsewhere?

ask around local shooting guys,cos its not a huge task to check the tracking and make sure the reticle is square to the rifle etc..your too far from me for me to be of any help..:(

ernieb

Cheers, Will do!

Jonty

Hi Ernie,

First thing is to forget about these collimators, there a waste of time.They've never worked for me and are only good enough to rough zero it. Now check to see if the cross hairs are canted.

Level up the rifle, using a bipod or books either side as wedges. Get a small spiirit level and level across some flat part of the rifle, to make sure its plumb.

Now put your little level across the scope cap on top of the scope, if its not level your cross hairs are canted. It might only be a fraction out, you might not even notice it when you put the rifle to your shoulder. If its badly out loosen the rings on the mounts and level up scope body using level. Then tighten rings.

Here's the fun bit.

To actually "zero" the scope, you need a place to shoot, bullets that you are going to fire, and targets. I find 2" squares with a cross hair handy. I make them myself.

Remove scope caps. There should be writing on the dials i.e. 1/4"@100yds or 1/8"@100yds.

Put up the target at a known distance. If the scope is not out too much 50m/yds is plenty. Use yards if the scope is in yards or metres if its in metres.


Settle the rifle using either a bipod or sandbags. It is important to note that no sand bags or anything is touching the barrel. This will affect accuracy.

Now fire a group. By group I mean 5 shots. The centre of this group is known as your MPI or Mean Point of Impact.

If the group is 2" high and 2" left you need to adjust your scope 2" down and 2" right.

This is where the writing on the scope dials comes in.

1/4"@100yds means for 1 click the point of impact will move by 1/4 inch at 100yds. At fifty yards, 1 click will move the point of impact 1/8".

So if we're 2" high and 2" left it will take 16 clicks down and 16 clicks right to "zero" the scope for 50yds. When adjusting the scope make sure you know which way turning the dials affects the point of impact. Its usually indicated with an arrow. Any other probs just shout.

Please note that this is just an example for 50yds.

foxshooter243

Jonty wrote: »

Hi Ernie,

First thing is to forget about these collimators, there a waste of time.They've never worked for me and are only good enough to rough zero it. Now check to see if the cross hairs are canted.

Level up the rifle, using a bipod or books either side as wedges. Get a small spiirit level and level across some flat part of the rifle, to make sure its plumb.

Now put your little level across the scope cap on top of the scope, if its not level your cross hairs are canted. It might only be a fraction out, you might not even notice it when you put the rifle to your shoulder. If its badly out loosen the rings on the mounts and level up scope body using level. Then tighten rings.

Here's the fun bit.

To actually "zero" the scope, you need a place to shoot, bullets that you are going to fire, and targets. I find 2" squares with a cross hair handy. I make them myself.

Remove scope caps. There should be writing on the dials i.e. 1/4"@100yds or 1/8"@100yds.

Put up the target at a known distance. If the scope is not out too much 50m/yds is plenty. Use yards if the scope is in yards or metres if its in metres.


Settle the rifle using either a bipod or sandbags. It is important to note that no sand bags or anything is touching the barrel. This will affect accuracy.

Now fire a group. By group I mean 5 shots. The centre of this group is known as your MPI or Mean Point of Impact.

If the group is 2" high and 2" left you need to adjust your scope 2" down and 2" right.

This is where the writing on the scope dials comes in.

1/4"@100yds means for 1 click the point of impact will move by 1/4 inch at 100yds. At fifty yards, 1 click will move the point of impact 1/8".

So if we're 2" high and 2" left it will take 16 clicks down and 16 clicks right to "zero" the scope for 50yds. When adjusting the scope make sure you know which way turning the dials affects the point of impact. Its usually indicated with an arrow. Any other probs just shout.

Please note that this is just an example for 50yds.

were not talking about zeroing with a collimator but checking the tracking with a collimator..look at the OP.

E. Fudd

I think when the O.P said "tracking" he was really talking about zeroing.

Jonty

DURR. Sorry bout that lads!! That scope is knacked if the tracking is off. My apologies to all. Also Ernie, are you near the limits of adjustment on the scope? Tracking isn't great if you are.

foxshooter243

E. Fudd wrote: »

I think when the O.P said "tracking" he was really talking about zeroing.

yeah you could be right , seemed to me when he couldnt get it zeroed
he thought he had a problem with the scopes ability to positivley track,
just a simple problem hopefully.

KennyCleveland

Greetings from Cleveland, OH, USA.

I love the irony of this irony! I Really wasn't looking to talk guns but OK! I goggled "Irish American Fraternity" looking to make some connections back in Erie and It took me to your board. Three of my Grandparents emigrated from Cork in 1915. I visited Ireland in 1997. I love to shoot and hunt and own several rifles that I've sited in myself. Forgive me if I sound patronizing, but I'm not sure what your authorities there allow you access to, have you bore sited this rifle?
http://www.huntingblades.com/bosiityo.html After that, follow previous post by Dwight Eisenhower, unless u r looking for advice on containing soviet socialism.

My advice is learn to do it yourself. Don't run out to a shop. Back home here we all site in our own weapons and even tho commercial loads are good and cheap most of us can reload most calibers just in case the **** hits the fan. I guess its a second amendment thing.

So here I am. An American-Irish posting on an Irish gun tip bbs. Hope you all accept me. I don't have any pics of my firearms to post although I could surely take some. But basically my favorite handguns I own are a High Standard Supermatic Citation Military made in 1972 in .22LR (first gun I ever bought) and a Taurus Arms .454 Casull Raging Bull (I carry this gun in the bush in AK when I'm not hunting but have never drawn it) It is a monster to fire. Tore up my buddy's rotator cuff.

I have a concealed carry permit (not hard to get in 40 of the 50 states unless u r a felon)for most states and usually have my SandW .38 Airlite PD revolver with a crimson trace laser site grip holstered on my hip or a Beretta .32 Tomcat on my ankle. Unless. ironically. I travel back to my home crime ridden NYS where only the bad guys can have guns. Will the law makers ever learn?

"An armed society is a polite society." Here in the mid-west USA We are really not the wild west you've been told. More guns = less crime. So simple.

My favorite rifle to shoot is my Anschutz Model 1710 D KL Monte Carlo chambered in .22LR with a Model 54 Match Action and a Leupold 3 -9 scope. What a blast to shoot! Don't know if Leupold is available in EU but what a scope for the money! and their customer service is stellar. Unless u got the coin for Swarovski.

For hunting rifles I love Weatherby. My main deer rifle is 30 06 Weatherby. I hunt black bear with a 7 mm Rem mag Winchester. Have a scoped Savage Arms rifled slug gun for non rifle deer states and a
Benelli turkey gun, another mother to shoot! 3.5" shells. ouch! I have a Mossberg 590 DAO shotgun with a Surefire lighted fore end and a folding sock/pistol grip just to protect my homestead here in the hood and an AR-15, hot-rodded, in case I am ever asked to negotiate with the UN. All these firearms are legally owned, stored, transported and used btw.

If any of my Irish brothers or sisters are headed stateside I'd be happy to introduce you to shooting here in the great state of Ohio, assuming we can get comfortably introduced beforehand. We can shoot the above and I also have a vintage M1A and a M30 carbine (both saw action- sadly - blood on the stocks) we can shoot as a tribute to my recently departed Dad, a sergeant in A Company, 2ND BATTALION, 47TH INFANTRY REGIMENT, 9TH DIVISION. He saw some ****. One of the liberators of Dachau. I think of his sacrifice to our freedom with every shot I squeeze off.

Anyway, Just thought I'd write from here in Cleveland, OH. I'd be grateful to hear from fellow hunting and shooting enthusiasts across the pond.

Thanks and regards,

Kenny