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Basil Brush Embroiled In Racism Row

  • 16-03-2008 11:38pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭


    Had to laugh, seen it all now. :)Link to story.
    Basil Brush has become embroiled in a racism row over a scene featuring a gypsy woman selling heather and wooden pegs.
    Puppet First Appeared In 1960s

    Police are investigating after a traveller reported an episode of the Basil Brush Show, broadcast on digital channel CBBC.
    It showed a gypsy character trying to flog items to the children's puppet - best known for his "Boom Boom" catchphrase.

    A spokesman for Northamptonshire police said: "We can confirm we have received a complaint about a TV show featuring Basil Brush from a member of the public in February.

    "The complaint was logged as an incident of a racist nature."

    Joseph Jones, vice-chairman of the Southern England Romany, Gypsy and Irish Traveller Network compared the programme to the Black and White Minstrel Show.
    He told the Mail on Sunday: "This sort of thing happens quite regularly and we are fed up with making complaints about stereotypical comments about us in words that we find racist or offensive.

    "Racist abuse of black people is quite rightly no longer deemed acceptable, but when a comedian makes a joke on TV about pikeys or gypos, there's no comeback."
    Basil Brush still appears on an updated version of the morning TV show Saturday Swap Shop on BBC2.

    The character first appeared in 1960s and was based on the upper-class comic Terry-Thomas.
    The BBC refused to comment.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    If the knackers have paid thier licence-fee then its a fair cop, thats all I can say.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    I dont see how thats racism?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭berliner


    Damn PC brigade.Hate 'em as much as the working classes.Dreadful crettins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/182068.html
    However a spokesman for the focus group Vile Representation In Media And News (VERMIN) says: “For too long foxes have been portrayed as cunning, accused of engaging in blood sports, massacring chickens and knockabout humour.”

    He is also upset that wherever he goes he is greeted by complete strangers coming up to him and yelling “Boom! Boom!”. As you can appreciate, in the current climate of fear and terrorism this is last thing any right-minded person or fox would want.

    As such, we expect Mr Brush to consult with his handlers Messrs Thomas and Terry, and take into account character witness statements from Mr Roy, Mr Derek and Mr Stephens…

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Basil should be strung up by his goolies for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    "Racist abuse of black people is quite rightly no longer deemed acceptable, but when a comedian makes a joke on TV about pikeys or gypos, there's no comeback."

    Lol!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    mike65 wrote: »
    If the knackers have paid thier licence-fee then its a fair cop, thats all I can say.

    Mike.

    Haha :)

    Somehow I doubt it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Would love to see a whole media-frenzy trial with Basil Brush as the defendant, can imagine him throwing double-entendres at the Judge and hilarity ensuing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Are travellers now acknowledging that they are a different race to the rest of us?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    The Irish State refuses to recognise travellers as an ethnic group, against the advice of the European Court of Human Rights and UN.. Think the Irish Government responded with a two-hundred page document. It consisted of the words 'Boom Boom' repeated twenty thousand times


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    Anti traveller/roma racism and stereotyping would be a disgrace under two conditions

    - That their percentage of the Irish prison population was not 10 times higher than their percentage of the general population

    - That 84% of traveller adults would bother getting a job (only 16% are in registered, taxable employment)

    Until that happens, they should quite frankly grow up and let the media stereotype them as workshy criminals. Mainly because official statistics show them as being such. Pavee Point is about as legitimate as that concerned criminals committee Martin Cahill set up. If they do not like the media portraying them as workshy and prone to criminality, get jobs and stop filling up the prisons. Otherwise, STFU. If an American tv show portrayed the Irish as a bunch of thick leprachans, I would take offence. If they prtrayed us as a bunch of drunks, I wouldnt. Because, well, we are not leprachans, but we are a nation of drunks. Quit blaming a state that has to chase down traveller children to force them into school for a lack of education and therefore a lack of employment opportunity. Quit having massive families. Quit saying the reason for big families is your devout catholicism- if you follow the popes contraception teachings to a t, why not also respect weddings and funerals instead of letting them descend into regular armed brawls.

    btw travellers are not a seperate race. They are, however, generally physically distinctive from the rest of the population. I will not say why they are physically distinctive, as I would likely be banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    Anti traveller/roma racism and stereotyping would be a disgrace under two conditions

    - That their percentage of the Irish prison population was not 10 times higher than their percentage of the general population

    - That 84% of traveller adults would bother getting a job (only 16% are in registered, taxable employment)

    Until that happens, they should quite frankly grow up and let the media stereotype them as workshy criminals. Mainly because official statistics show them as being such. Pavee Point is about as legitimate as that concerned criminals committee Martin Cahill set up. If they do not like the media portraying them as workshy and prone to criminality, get jobs and stop filling up the prisons. Otherwise, STFU. If an American tv show portrayed the Irish as a bunch of thick leprachans, I would take offence. If they prtrayed us as a bunch of drunks, I wouldnt. Because, well, we are not leprachans, but we are a nation of drunks. Quit blaming a state that has to chase down traveller children to force them into school for a lack of education and therefore a lack of employment opportunity. Quit having massive families. Quit saying the reason for big families is your devout catholicism- if you follow the popes contraception teachings to a t, why not also respect weddings and funerals instead of letting them descend into regular armed brawls.

    btw travellers are not a seperate race. They are, however, generally physically distinctive from the rest of the population. I will not say why they are physically distinctive, as I would likely be banned.

    Good points, actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Mweelrea


    I hate pc-ness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    Anti traveller/roma racism and stereotyping would be a disgrace under two conditions

    - That their percentage of the Irish prison population was not 10 times higher than their percentage of the general population

    - That 84% of traveller adults would bother getting a job (only 16% are in registered, taxable employment)

    Until that happens, they should quite frankly grow up and let the media stereotype them as workshy criminals. Mainly because official statistics show them as being such. Pavee Point is about as legitimate as that concerned criminals committee Martin Cahill set up. If they do not like the media portraying them as workshy and prone to criminality, get jobs and stop filling up the prisons. Otherwise, STFU. If an American tv show portrayed the Irish as a bunch of thick leprachans, I would take offence. If they prtrayed us as a bunch of drunks, I wouldnt. Because, well, we are not leprachans, but we are a nation of drunks. Quit blaming a state that has to chase down traveller children to force them into school for a lack of education and therefore a lack of employment opportunity. Quit having massive families. Quit saying the reason for big families is your devout catholicism- if you follow the popes contraception teachings to a t, why not also respect weddings and funerals instead of letting them descend into regular armed brawls.

    btw travellers are not a seperate race. They are, however, generally physically distinctive from the rest of the population. I will not say why they are physically distinctive, as I would likely be banned.
    I have to agree with that. The media are going on with lots of smaller things that they shouldn't be, but the travellers deserve their reputation(well 86% at least), and I think until that figure begins reducing, they should keep their stereotype. Young people have a bad reputation but at least we have jobs for the majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    I love the anti-traveller rants this board generates.

    Particularly because they're exactly the same as the anti-irish rants those evil Brits always used to make about us during the occupation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Jeapy


    Sorry to go a little off thread here but our paddys day parade yesterday was infiltrated by a cinquecento of travellers beeping, shouting out the windows etc...v funny!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    I love the anti-traveller rants this board generates.

    Particularly because they're exactly the same as the anti-irish rants those evil Brits always used to make about us during the occupation.


    Ya exactly the same situation. The Irish took over this country which used to be known as The Republic of Pikeyland and then we threw them into caravans, and took over their land. And ever since we have been putting them down and making up lies about them.

    They deserve their current stereotype, travellers of old did not cause the same problems.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    @traveller, If the cap fits "wear it"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    deisedevil wrote: »
    ...

    They deserve their current stereotype, travellers of old did not cause the same problems.

    My father maintains the same opinion, that when he was young travellers were decent enough folk.

    I think its a case of PC-ness gone too far here anyways, boom boom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    The term gypsy is to the Rroma a racial slur, the same as spic, paddy, wog and nígger are to others.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 Noddywood


    When they see you have a shotgun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Ya exactly the same situation. The Irish took over this country which used to be known as The Republic of Pikeyland and then we threw them into caravans, and took over their land. And ever since we have been putting them down and making up lies about them.

    They deserve their current stereotype, travellers of old did not cause the same problems.

    Riiiiiight.

    Anyway, to clear up the confusion, the Brits (and New Yorkers) dismissed the Irish as degenerate, alcoholic, dim-witted, viscious people so steeped in criminality, violence, over-breeding, and squalor they were effectively beyond hope and couldn't be trusted with the most basic of responsibilities. Something that Paddy's Day always refutes in the strongest possible terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    In lieu of all the payments the gypos have received from the social welfare, they should rid the country of roma beggars/theives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    berliner wrote: »
    Damn PC brigade.Hate 'em as much as the working classes.
    Trolling is against the rules. Don't troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    the Brits (and New Yorkers) dismissed the Irish as alcoholic....viscious people so steeped in.....violence, over-breeding,

    Yep. None of this was even remotely true of the Irish :rolleyes:
    I love the anti-traveller rants this board generates.

    Particularly because they're exactly the same as the anti-irish rants those evil Brits always used to make about us during the occupation.

    Care to elaborate?

    Personally Im not sure the Black and Tans would have tolerated Irish people demanding to hold a wedding reception in the officers bar or else threatening to bring them to court for discrimination.


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