Dunmore East C & C

trishw78

Well I was out in Dunmore EAst today with my 16-35mmL and took a few shots. I decided I shoot completely in raw today and then convert them in bridge and a little work in photoshop so here's two, more on my flickr and if i get round to it I'll do more work tomorrow on the rest.

Sebzy

Sorry but they do nothing for me.

SuperSean11

The first one is good.

Come on lads,C&C is useless without some reasons no matter how basic they are(bad lighting,poor composition,fear of lighthouses etc. )

Anyway the first one doesn't work for me,it's much too cluttered and has no definite subject.Focusing only on the line of lobster traps leading into the sea or trying to incorporate both the traps and the boats in a more simplistic way might have made it more interesting.

As for the second one I have to say I like it.The red and white of the lighthouse contrast well with the sky and the dull grey of the stone.I would suggest cropping the bottom of it out just up to the railings.The cars take away from the image imo.

trishw78

Thanks Inibaz I was just about to give up on ever C&Cing again. I see what your mean about the Lobster pots, I did try different crops on the lighthouse, but settled on that one

Calina

If I might throw in my two cents.

1) This doesn't work for me for a few reasons. It's not that I don't like fishing village things - I do - but there are a few problems with this one.

Ultimately, it looks to me that you took the photograph from slightly too high an angle. As such you wind up with something that looks more like a holiday snapshot than a photograph.

Other problems I have with it is that there's a lack of vitality in the colours, that the light was quite flat. Part of that is probably that the light was flat, but it is also possible that you could look at what you did to touch up the photograph in Photoshop. It just seems not enough if you catch my drift.

2) The key problem with this photograph is the clutter from the cars. Not your
fault; people will park in front of things we want to photograph (grhhh). However, it detracts from the lighthouse. What I like about the photograph is the vibrancy of the sky in the background - and it slightly doesn't match the stonework of the lighthouse which is may be a little flat as well. It's never easy to make stone full of life (sounds all wrong, actually). That being said, the lighthouse in Dunmore East is one of the prettiest lighthouses around and I like the angle you took it at.

What I would take away from this is that you clearly have an interest in getting photographs and will try things to see what they bring. We all know that this doesn't necessarily bring stuff but every single photograph I take is a learning process even when they don't work. The second one is clearly the better photograph to my eye. I'd be interested to know what it was about the first one that caused you to make it a photograph in the first place.

trishw78

the first one oddly enough was fine untill I pressed the shutter and the clouds blew across the sun at that second. mmm I still have the raw file so I could possibly still fiddle about with it. I liked the postcard idea I've seen one or two of them blown up for sale in the nearby cafe. So that's what I was thinkin about. I was in two minds in whether I should do it or not, because it would look 'postcardy'

I'll try the lighthouse one again during the summer when it's not so busy.

Ricky91t

Ill be honest with you these photo's are nowhere near as good as the others on your flickr....

I think your "sunset" one and the "wave" one are way better the one where you've taken the photo of the boat from the front in b & w is good

the first has too much stuff in it and there isnt anything in teresting about it

The second one is good but still there isnt anything that brings it away from a standard holiday snap.im not saying i havent taken pictures like that before ..I think these two are alot better and i dint understand why you didnt post them?

Sunset
Wave

Im not trying to put you down just want you to know the truth

trishw78

@ricky91t I'm happy with both the wave and sunset, that's why I didn't post them. I want to learn from the ones I'm less happy with, and get other peoples opinions on those ones

Thanks for sharing:)

Fionn

hi
i'd agree with some of the comments;
no 1 has potential but suffers from too much clutter especially in the top left side - perhaps a shift in the angle of the shot might be an improvement.

no 2 might benefit from the rule of thirds, composition wise - good colours in it all the same - pity about the vehicles in it, but you cant control that really.

One other thing! what time were they taken? it would seem like it was around mid day when the light isn't always the greatest. Variation in lighting can have dramatic effects for instance no 1 would be good early morning and no 2 might be nice near sundown.

Calina

Just on that,

if you're looking for advice/help it's good to give people an idea of what you think might be wrong yourself or what you're expecting to get out of the process.

I remember posting a photograph here and saying "look, I know it's burnt to pieces for this reason but...if I were to be in this situation again, what would other people do?" It caused quite a constructive debate on tactics for shooting into the sun and I know I took quite a lot away from it and I think other people do.

You'll find, I think that people are more inclined to be constructive when they have a better idea of what you are expecting to get out of it. To be honest, you didn't give people a lot to work with here.

I don't do C&C very often lately because I haven't taken photographs lately but usually if I'm looking for assistance, I lay out what I'm hoping to get and my experience is that people are then generally very helpful. This is not meant in a negative way but you really didn't give us a lot to work with here and I think you'll find that's at the root of the earlier responses you got.

The way I see it is that C&C is not just a one way process - ultimately the value in them is that other people who might not have posted a photograph might also get something, pick up some pearl of wisdom. This is the way I approach it - I'm not saying it's the only way to do it but it's the way that I get most out of it. That's all.

Ricky91t

trishw78 wrote: »

@ricky91t I'm happy with both the wave and sunset, that's why I didn't post them. I want to learn from the ones I'm less happy with, and get other peoples opinions on those ones

Thanks for sharing:)

Ok well i think for the first one it might of looked better if you could get down by the lobster cage thingy's and focus on them and have them taking up around 1/3 of the frame and then have out of focus boat in the bg...
I think the colours of the boats would look nice Oof

For the light house i think it would of been better with a lower camera position and maybe closer to it so you see more of the sky

Thats just my suggestion

trishw78

@ ricky91t I couldn't get anylower other wise I'd've been sitting in a fishy puddle with a car moving behind me, I'm not that deadicated to my art.

there's so many things to remember I keep forgetting about 'rule of 3rds' another thing to add to my list.

Ricky91t

trishw78 wrote: »

@ ricky91t I couldn't get anylower other wise I'd've been sitting in a fishy puddle with a car moving behind me, I'm not that deadicated to my art.

there's so many things to remember I keep forgetting about 'rule of 3rds' another thing to add to my list.

i was thinking that as docks are kind of restrictive as to where you can go..

Yep there certainly is alot to remember
and plenty more to learn for every photographer :rolleyes:

City-Exile

trishw78, if you want to apply rules to your shots, practice in your back yard, or somewhere. It's difficult to remember these things, if they're not second nature to you, when you've spotted something you're eager to capture.

I'm always picturing the shot, before even put the camera to my eye.
I don't want to be in Photoshop all day, so I do my best to get the shot I want, on the camera.

With regard to the shots above, I think the baskets are too dull to take up so much of the shot.
For the second shot, I think having the lighthouse dead centre is a bit too obvious & having cars in the shot would probably discourage most people from wanting to hang it on their wall.