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XV of the 6N Tournament.

  • 16-03-2008 7:37pm
    #1
    toomevara
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    Now that the dust has settled and we've had time to reflect.....here's mine for what its worth....

    15. Anthony Floch (France)
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Tom Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Gavin Henson (Wales)
    11. Shane Williams (Wales)
    10. James Hook (Wales)
    9. Jean-Baptiste Ellisalde (France)

    8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
    7. Martyn Williams (Wales)
    6. Thierry Dusautoir (France)
    5. Jerome Thion (France)
    4. Ian Gough (Wales)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. Leonardo Ghiraldini (Italy)
    1. Andrew Sheridan (England)

    Incidentally, found that really difficult to put together..so much bloody mediocrity this year...


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  • #2
    remus808
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    Agreed on the mediocrity.

    1. Andy Sheridan
    2. Dimitri Swarzeski
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni
    4. Donnacha O'Callaghan
    5. Nathan Hines
    6. Ryan Jones
    7. Martyn Williams
    8. Sergio Parisse
    9. Mike Blair
    10. Ronan O'Gara
    11. Shane Williams
    12. Mirco Bergamasco
    13. Tom Shanklin
    14. Vincent Clerc
    15. Rob Kearney


  • #3
    toomevara
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    karmabass wrote: »
    Agreed on the mediocrity.

    1. Andy Sheridan
    2. Dimitri Swarzeski
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni
    4. Donnacha O'Callaghan
    5. Nathan Hines
    6. Ryan Jones
    7. Martyn Williams
    8. Sergio Parisse
    9. Mike Blair
    10. Ronan O'Gara
    11. Shane Williams
    12. Mirco Bergamasco
    13. Tom Shanklin
    14. Vincent Clerc
    15. Rob Kearney

    Interesting XV, would agree with it just as much as mine...did grapple with Kearney, O'Callaghan and Hines myself....O'Gara though for me blew it against England, not entirely his own doing, but a poor performance..Interesting call on Blair...made me think...


  • #4
    SameDifference
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    15. Lee Byrne (Wales
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Tom Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Gavin Henson (Wales)
    11. Shane Williams (Wales)
    10. Johnny Wilkinson (England)
    9. Jean-Baptiste Ellisalde (France)

    8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
    7. Mauro Bergamasco (Italy)
    6. Thierry Dusautoir (France)
    5. Paul O'Connell (Ireland)
    4. Ian Gough (Wales)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. Leonardo Ghiraldini (Italy)
    1. Andrew Sheridan (England)

    Just a few changes to the original post


  • #5
    irish.rugby.fan
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    SameDifference wrote: »
    15. Lee Byrne (Wales
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Tom Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Gavin Henson (Wales)
    11. Shane Williams (Wales)
    10. Johnny Wilkinson (England)
    9. Jean-Baptiste Ellisalde (France)

    8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
    7. Mauro Bergamasco (Italy)
    6. Thierry Dusautoir (France)
    5. Paul O'Connell (Ireland)
    4. Ian Gough (Wales)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. Leonardo Ghiraldini (Italy)
    1. Andrew Sheridan (England)

    Just a few changes to the original post

    How could you put O'Connell in?

    We're talking about this 6N, not the best team of players who play in the 6N.


  • #6
    vorbis
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    SameDifference wrote: »
    15. Lee Byrne (Wales
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Tom Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Gavin Henson (Wales)
    11. Shane Williams (Wales)
    10. Johnny Wilkinson (England)
    9. Jean-Baptiste Ellisalde (France)

    8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
    7. Mauro Bergamasco (Italy)
    6. Thierry Dusautoir (France)
    5. Paul O'Connell (Ireland)
    4. Ian Gough (Wales)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. Leonardo Ghiraldini (Italy)
    1. Andrew Sheridan (England)

    Just a few changes to the original post

    Wilkinson???
    Cipriani showed in one match what a difference an OH that can play the game at pace makes. Wilikinson had a very average 6N.

    My XV
    15. Lee Byrne (Wales
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Tom Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Gavin Henson (Wales)
    11. Shane Williams (Wales)
    10. James Hook (Wales)
    9. Mike Blair (Scotland)

    8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
    7. Mauro Bergamasco (Italy)
    6. Thierry Dusautoir (France)
    5. Jerome Thion (France)
    4. Donnacha O Callagahan (Ireland)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. Dimitri Swarzeski (France)
    1. Andrew Sheridan (England)


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  • #7
    Sangre
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    15. Cedric Heymens (France) (despite not playing all the games I still think he easily showed his class)
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Henson (Wales)
    11. Williams (Wales)
    10. Hook (Wales)
    9. Blair (Scotland)
    8 Parisse (Italy)
    7 M. Williams (Wales)
    6. Alasdair Strokosch (Scotland)
    5. A W Jones (Wales)
    4. D O Callaghan (Ireland)
    3. M Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. D Swarzeski (France)
    1. A Sheridan (England)

    So that makes 6 Welsh, 3 French, 2 Scottish, 2 Italians, 1 Irish and 1 English. I think thats fair enough.


  • #8
    remus808
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    toomevara wrote: »
    Interesting XV, would agree with it just as much as mine...did grapple with Kearney, O'Callaghan and Hines myself....O'Gara though for me blew it against England, not entirely his own doing, but a poor performance..Interesting call on Blair...made me think...

    I agree O'Gara wasn't perfect but all round I feel he was the most deserving on merit. Blair is without doubt the form scrum-half of the tournament, terrific player and leader, although Phillips and Reddan were solid also.


  • #9
    Santa Claus
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    irish.rugby.fan wrote: »
    How could you put O'Connell in?

    We're talking about this 6N, not the best team of players who play in the 6N.

    Exactly, his game against Wales was hardly impressive (especially 2nd half) and the game against England was good but certainly nothing to earn him a position in the XV of the Tournament !


  • #10
    nacho libre
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    15. Cedric Heymans
    14. Vincent Clerc
    13. Shanklin
    12. Henson
    11. Williams
    10. Hook
    9. Blair
    8. Parisse
    7. M. Williams
    6. Alasdair Strokosch
    5. A W Jones
    4. Ian Gough
    3. M Castrogiovanni
    2. D Swarzeski
    1. A Sheridan


  • #11
    Marshy
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    15. Lee Byrne (Wales)
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Tom Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Gavin Henson (Wales)
    11. Shane Williams (Wales)
    10. James Hook (Wales)
    9. Mike Blair (Scotland)

    8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
    7. Martyn Williams (Wales)
    6. Ryan Jones (Wales)
    5. Alun Wyn Jones (Wales)
    4. Ian Gough (Wales)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. Leonardo Ghiraldini (Italy)
    1. Andrew Sheridan (England)


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  • #12
    Jonny303
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    vorbis wrote: »
    Wilkinson???
    Cipriani showed in one match what a difference an OH that can play the game at pace makes. Wilikinson had a very average 6N.

    My XV
    15. Lee Byrne (Wales
    14. Vincent Clerc (France)
    13. Tom Shanklin (Wales)
    12. Gavin Henson (Wales)
    11. Shane Williams (Wales)
    10. James Hook (Wales)
    9. Mike Blair (Scotland)

    8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
    7. Mauro Bergamasco (Italy)
    6. Thierry Dusautoir (France)
    5. Jerome Thion (France)
    4. Donnacha O Callagahan (Ireland)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Italy)
    2. Dimitri Swarzeski (France)
    1. Andrew Sheridan (England)


    Have to say, think o-callaghan really stepped up to the mark this season. Liked him as a player for years but always seemed to have some flaw, really pulled it together this year, the one guy who seems to be in the rite spot at the rit etime


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