Irish person - NHS abortion

LegacyUser

is there any way an irish person can get an abortion with the NHS because i cant really afford private. my parents could but... you know. my bf maybe could but i dont think he would go along with an abortion.

dudara

Try contacting Positive Options in order to find out what is available to you.

mydarkstar

Positive Options will be able to talk you through your options, as mentioned above.

BPAS are good also, google them.

MissHoneyBun

girlintrouble wrote: »

...my bf maybe could but i dont think he would go along with an abortion.

You haven't told your boyfriend of your intentions....?

Nevyn

http://www.bpas.org/about-bpas/charity.html

Carrigart Exile

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

You haven't told your boyfriend of your intentions....?

+1 Does the father of your child know you are pregnant

estar

dont make this decision alone.

if you can't speak to your parents, do you have sisters or brothers
a friendly aunt?

its very important that you make an informed choice that
doesnt harm you or that you regret later.

also, you need adequate resources and support going
to uk - enough money to stay if you need to stay because of
complications, perhaps a supportve friend to travel with you

i strongly advise you to look again at possible supports
from your friends and family as well as contacting positive options.

echosound

estar wrote: »

dont make this decision alone.

if you can't speak to your parents, do you have sisters or brothers
a friendly aunt?

its very important that you make an informed choice that
doesnt harm you or that you regret later.

also, you need adequate resources and support going
to uk - enough money to stay if you need to stay because of
complications, perhaps a supportve friend to travel with you

i strongly advise you to look again at possible supports
from your friends and family as well as contacting positive options.

Absolutely agreed.

Also, you should really talk to your BF about this, it does concern him too, and you need to respect that. sorry if that sounds a bit harsh considering you're probably up in a heap as it is, but you really need to talk to him as well about all this. You never know,he could be the support you need to make your decision and help you through it. People can surprise you.

MissHoneyBun

OP, I'm sure this must be an immensely difficult time for you but please inform your boyfriend of your pregnancy. After all it took two of you for this situation to arise so please dont deny him the knowledge of whats happened. Im sure your emotions are high right now but the worst possible thing you could do is to isolate yourself when you need people most. Please allow those who care for you to be there at this difficult time. A problem shared is a problem halved....

LegacyUser

I think enough of the 'go talk to someone' approach. If she wants to, she will. And i know ppl will say the bf has a right to know, and he does- but the harsh reality is that this is not a simple 'open/close case'. Op, in my opinon and i can only speak for myself, i know i wouldnt tell anyone caus im v stubborn and i know what my decision would be. re the NHS im afraid im no use.i just wanted to highlight something, that prob wont go down too well with some posters but each to their own

Lux23

Im not sure if im allowed to post this. But a NHS hospital has a duty of care to anyone who walks through their doors, its very possible they will do the procedure but they will insist on a follow up.

Carrigart Exile

Lux23 wrote: »

Im not sure if im allowed to post this. But a NHS hospital has a duty of care to anyone who walks through their doors, its very possible they will do the procedure but they will insist on a follow up.

Hello NHS i've jumped on the ferry from Ireland and I want an abortion. What duty of care is needed, an abortion is not a lifestyle choice.

Carrigart Exile

some wrote: »

I think enough of the 'go talk to someone' approach. If she wants to, she will. And i know ppl will say the bf has a right to know, and he does- but the harsh reality is that this is not a simple 'open/close case'. Op, in my opinon and i can only speak for myself, i know i wouldnt tell anyone caus im v stubborn and i know what my decision would be. re the NHS im afraid im no use.i just wanted to highlight something, that prob wont go down too well with some posters but each to their own

You appear to want to exclude the father of teh child from having any say in the life or death of his child. I assume you will of course expect him to pick up the tab if she decides to have it even tho he doesn't?

Victor

Please stay on topic and keep the non-specific discussion to Humanities.

TequilaMockingBird

As far as I know, you need to have a permanent UK address to avail of NHS services. Also, even if it were possible, you will wait a few weeks for it. Whereas, going private would be much quicker. When you factor in the cost of accomodation for a few weeks, loss of earnings etc, it would probably work out the same either way.

Good luck whatever you decide.

MissHoneyBun

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Originally Posted by some
I think enough of the 'go talk to someone' approach. If she wants to, she will. And i know ppl will say the bf has a right to know, and he does- but the harsh reality is that this is not a simple 'open/close case'. Op, in my opinon and i can only speak for myself, i know i wouldnt tell anyone caus im v stubborn and i know what my decision would be. re the NHS im afraid im no use.i just wanted to highlight something, that prob wont go down too well with some posters but each to their own

Some, I'll think you'll find that nobody here is disputing the fact that this isn't an "open/close case", quite the contrary in fact. As I have already said, it is an immmensely difficult situation with, lets face it, a life at stake. Perhaps at a time when someone is bound to be fraught with emotion they mightn't be at their most rational. By virtue of the fact that the OP has even posted here warrants her need for advice. This is a decision that is going to effect the OP for the rest of her life and it's imperative that she gives it careful consideration. And I'm sorry but the fact that you say you wouldn't tell anyone due to your own stubborness is just incredibly selfish and immature.

AARRRGH

girlintrouble wrote: »

is there any way an irish person can get an abortion with the NHS because i cant really afford private. my parents could but... you know. my bf maybe could but i dont think he would go along with an abortion.

NHS don't pay for private abortions.

To get a public abortion (which isn't totally free, and you could be liable to pay the full amount) you need to be referred to the NHS by two Doctors.

Also, this is important: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6287291.stm

I found this by Googling.

Lux23

Carrigart Exile wrote: »

Hello NHS i've jumped on the ferry from Ireland and I want an abortion. What duty of care is needed, an abortion is not a lifestyle choice.

They have a duty of care if its felt this is effecting your mental health. Its a choice that can really only be made by the person who is carrying the child and the OP is perfectly entitled to come to this decision by herself. Its probably not the best thing for her, but you know people manage with worse.

Drift

Hi OP. I have to say in advance that I have strong personal opinions about abortion so what I say below may be a bit one-sided, I'm sure a mod will delete it if it's seen as inappropriate. I do think it's good advice no matter how you chose to go about things though.

I think it would be very beneficial to you to discuss this with someone in advance. It's a decision that cannot be reversed and no matter what decisions any of us make in life it's much easier to make them and be happy with our choices if we discuss it and bounce it off someone close to us in advance. If you can't approach someone you know to talk about it there are a number of different crisis pregnancy agencies in this country with trained counsellors who can give you advice on your options. (There are links in the charter of these boards.)

I personally think that the father of the child has a right to know in advance. He might also prove to be the best person to discuss it with because he's the one in the situation closest to yours.

This is a very big decision to make OP please make sure you've explored all your options and talked things out before making permanent decisions.

Carrigart Exile

Lux23 wrote: »

They have a duty of care if its felt this is effecting your mental health. Its a choice that can really only be made by the person who is carrying the child and the OP is perfectly entitled to come to this decision by herself. Its probably not the best thing for her, but you know people manage with worse.

Actually, no, its a decision that has to be arrived at by two doctors

Beruthiel

Did anyone read what Victor said??

Next one to go off topic and not answer the question asked by the OP will get banned.
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John Mason

OP get yourself to your local Irish Family Planning centre, they will book the termination for you, and all you will have to do arrange your flights. If you dont want to tell the father well that's your choice no one has the right to tell you want to do

MIN2511

OP, am afraid you would have to pay for the abortion yourself. It’s about £500 and that excludes flights and accommodation if you need to spend the night but I know they do walk ins i.e. check in am and leave pm and it is still the same price. The BPA are the best for this, you can avoid peak days to save you in flights.
Is there anyone you can ask for a loan without telling them the reason why you need it?
Not sure about IFPC as Irish bird suggested but it's worth the try

John Mason

MIN2511 wrote: »

Not sure about IFPC as Irish bird suggested but it's worth the try

well, they organised my friend to go to liverpool, booked her into the clinic the works

Nevyn

irishbird wrote: »

well, they organised my friend to go to liverpool, booked her into the clinic the works

Yes they will do that and make sure that there is not a long waiting time but she would still have had to paid the clinic when she arrived.

John Mason

Thaedydal wrote: »

Yes they will do that and make sure that there is not a long waiting time but she would still have had to paid the clinic when she arrived.

Sorry, i didnt mean to imply they paid for it. They dont, OP you wont get it free on the NHS unless you have a national insurance number and even then i dont think its free . Go talk to whomever, check out the costs and then decide if you need to speak to your parents/friends/boyfriend. just make sure you get all the information and facts together, so you can make an informed decision

MissHoneyBun

irishbird wrote: »

well, they organised my friend to go to liverpool, booked her into the clinic the works

Your "Well I know" attitude is actually a bit disturbing.
And no, the OP doesn't have to tell the father about the abortion but if she had an ounce of consideration or respect for her boyfriend (not to mention love) then of course she should tell him! It's his child too!!!!!!!

Marksie

Misshoneybun: banned 1 week, ignoring moderator warnings

pwd

Marksie wrote: »

Misshoneybun: banned 1 week, ignoring moderator warnings

She wasn't making a "non-specific" coment at all. She was making a very relevant point that the OP should consider.

Beruthiel

pwd wrote: »

She wasn't making a "non-specific" coment at all. She was making a very relevant point that the OP should consider.

Banned for going off topic and questioning a Mod decision on thread instead of taking it to PM or Help Desk.
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Curvy Vixen

OP I'm not entirely sure of the full position as regards the NHS giving you an abortion but as far as I know you would not be eligible. I went through this myself but paid privately even though I am from the UK and have a NI number for there. I lived here at the time and wanted it over and done with rather than waiting for the NHS.

I have a friend in the UK who had it done on the NHS and like all things there is a waiting list and she ended up going to the wire with the dates which she was uncomfortable with.

If you really want it done and there is no money to be got from anywhere then possible go into the Credit Union. You would need enough for the operation and the trip as well as probably a night's accommodation.

This is one of the hardest things in the world to go through, partly because it is something that you have to choose to do rather than being something that's inflicted on you. I would advise a bit of counselling afterwards if you go ahead with it. Some professional advice beforehand would be good for you too but I would steer away from any organisation that would be biased one way or another.

I had a termination 20 years ago and have never, ever regretted it. It was absolutely the right decision for me then but I know people that may have made a different decision in their own circumstances. Whatever decision you come to you need to be fair to yourself and get as much information as possible in advance.

Good luck...

Andy-Pandy

Hey OP,

If you cant/dont want to go to your folks about this, find a friend/cousin/aunt to lend you the money. Its up to you wether you tell your boyfriend or not, but i know if it was me and i wasnt told, any relationship i had would be over. It shows a lack of trust on your behalf, and i would feel its my right to know. Even though i fully believe its a womans right to choose, he has at least the right to know.

Anyway goodluck,

Andrew

Marksie

andy-pandy: despite a one line answering the OP question. The rest was off topic.
Banned 1 week

WindSock

I can't see how the NHS or British taxpayer would foot the bill for a non national. I guess the only way to get it payed for is if the HSE agreed after a huge court battle and the foetus was severly disformed.

Xiney

I know it's not ideal, but would you be able to put the operation on a credit card? Sometimes you can then get a low interest loan to pay off the credit card debt afterwards. (This is something you should look into yourself)