Learning off Irish

Cian92

100% of my irish course is learned off (I got a grind) cept the listening. Any one else do this? i think its great my aiste i learned off worked for every year in the exam papers!

johnk123

learning off entire essays is kindof a bad idea. For my JC i learned of certain phrases which could be used anywhere, from a letter, to an aiste. It worked for me

Cian92

Well i just learned off 1 sa and it worked for everything

spurious

Cian92 wrote: »

Well i just learned off 1 sa and it worked for everything

I think you might be in for a surprise at Leaving Cert., but by all means be happy your method 'worked' for JC.

johnk123's advice is much better as it will work for Leaving Cert. too.

-Els-

I did exactly the same, and got an A.
The Irish course for Junior Cert is a joke, My Irish is ok but I had a brilliant teacher who knew the course inside out and got me an A by basically showing us how to learn it all off. I have a friend who goes to a different school and has gone to he Gaeltacht for 5 years and goes to an outside Irish club and is pretty much fluent- This girl scraped a B. She learned off phrases etc.. but just couldn't have it off as perfect as everyone else.

I would advise that you work on your Irish In transition year though, because you definatly cannot learn it off for the Leaving. Go ot the Gaeltacht or do Irish debating or something- it'd bring you up to a good standard.

Smartly Dressed

Like someone else mentioned, learning off an entire essay is a bit risky. You're better off learning phrases/words which can be used in an essay and a letter. Apparently examiners love the old sayings too.

Luckily I'm fluent so I can just write anything that comes to mind on the day.

Cian92

-Els- wrote: »

I did exactly the same, and got an A.
The Irish course for Junior Cert is a joke, My Irish is ok but I had a brilliant teacher who knew the course inside out and got me an A by basically showing us how to learn it all off. I have a friend who goes to a different school and has gone to he Gaeltacht for 5 years and goes to an outside Irish club and is pretty much fluent- This girl scraped a B. She learned off phrases etc.. but just couldn't have it off as perfect as everyone else.

I would advise that you work on your Irish In transition year though, because you definatly cannot learn it off for the Leaving. Go ot the Gaeltacht or do Irish debating or something- it'd bring you up to a good standard.

Im not doin transition year so, but my cousin doing the LC got an A in irish for the mocks doing exactly the same thing so i reckon ill be fine, mind you i wouldnt mind being able to speak irish but my teacher is shocking!

PurpleFistMixer

I hate the idea of just memorising stuff off.
For my JC I stubbornly refused to learn off an essay, I just learned phrases. Didn't work perfectly, that is to say, I got a B.
But I've stuck with trying to actually learn the language, as opposed to blindly learning things, and I got an A in my mocks for the LC there, so something must be working.

straight_As

Definitely learn off phrases, but not just random ones.

My Irish teacher in school tried to make us learn off every essay, story and letter we wrote but at the end, I wasn't understanding the corrections being made and most of what was written was just blaaaaaaaah.

So, I decided to get grinds, which were remarkably helpful. The guy giving me grinds just gave my a bunch of phrases littered with good Irish and explained everything thoroughly. He gave me phrases based on the short story which were applicable for every past paper. The theme for my short stories was always an accident and if you look at te past papers, this can be adapted to at least one short story question posed each year.

In the end, learning off whole stories by rote is not only unhelpful but very difficult. I listened to my grind teacher, understood the phrases, learned the phrases and ultimately got an A in the JC (up from a C in the mock).

Good luck!

Cian92

straight_As wrote: »

Definitely learn off phrases, but not just random ones.

My Irish teacher in school tried to make us learn off every essay, story and letter we wrote but at the end, I wasn't understanding the corrections being made and most of what was written was just blaaaaaaaah.

So, I decided to get grinds, which were remarkably helpful. The guy giving me grinds just gave my a bunch of phrases littered with good Irish and explained everything thoroughly. He gave me phrases based on the short story which were applicable for every past paper. The theme for my short stories was always an accident and if you look at te past papers, this can be adapted to at least one short story question posed each year.

In the end, learning off whole stories by rote is not only unhelpful but very difficult. I listened to my grind teacher, understood the phrases, learned the phrases and ultimately got an A in the JC (up from a C in the mock).

Good luck!

You see i only have to learn off 1 everything not lots of them the aiste worked for every JC paper but in case by a freak accident it wont work we are leaning phrases for a sceal.... Unfortuneately it seems to be teachers in school who stop people from doing well (whenever I hand up something in school I did in my grind he doesnt believe its my work)

straight_As

Cian92 wrote: »

You see i only have to learn off 1 everything not lots of them the aiste worked for every JC paper but in case by a freak accident it wont work we are leaning phrases for a sceal.... Unfortuneately it seems to be teachers in school who stop people from doing well (whenever I hand up something in school I did in my grind he doesnt believe its my work)

I have no idea about the aiste........I decided to just focus on the scéal and be able to adapt my phrases into any situation.