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Statutory basis for planning law

  • 15-03-2008 3:38am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭


    :confused: Hi all.
    Am I alone in thinking that there has been a seismic shift in planning law in this country in recent years.?
    Up to about 5 years ago , planning permission was largly determined by what you build, but now its determined by who you are and where you fit into society.
    How many refusals contain the ominous phrase " the applicant has not demonstrated a need to build in this particular location " or similar.
    Now, to me this is" social engineering". The planners ( and I'm sure a few are reading this ) have assumed the role of autocrats , exerting extreme control over mobility in Irish society.
    Their justification is the various county development plans they have produced.
    I'm just wondering what statutary act gives power of enforcment of these development plans ?
    I'm no lawer and havn't researched this but the whole process seems unfair and has affected me, having been turned down for a house on a site on which I had outline permission.
    I'd like to research the legality of planning law in this country and would welcome any opinions. Sorry about the long rant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,545 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    It is certainly set in stone that each planning authority must produce development plans for their respective areas. You will get all the details here. Part 2 of the 2000 Act is where you should see the statutory requirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    :D Thanks Muffler.
    I should'nt post serious rants at 2.00 in the morning.!!
    I'll have a look at the link.
    cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    recipio wrote: »
    :I'm just wondering what statutary act gives power of enforcment of these development plans ?
    I'm no lawer and havn't researched this but the whole process seems unfair and has affected me, having been turned down for a house on a site on which I had outline permission.
    I also suggest you research what outline planning actually is. Basically in principal, so they could agree with a house on that site in principal, yet may not fullly assess local needs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Schooby


    Local elections summer 2009 is your chance to appoint the persons responsible for deciding what is and is not policy in your county/town/area developement plan, this is local democracy.

    development plans and indeed planning decisions are based local policy determined by persons mandated by you, your councillors, and national policy, in the time period you refer to have been made by one party!!!

    either way the Legislative provisions of the Planning and development Act 2000 and the policy arising from it are the results of our democratic choices as a nation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Patrickof


    Schooby wrote: »
    Local elections summer 2009 is your chance to appoint the persons responsible for deciding what is and is not policy in your county/town/area developement plan, this is local democracy.

    development plans and indeed planning decisions are based local policy determined by persons mandated by you, your councillors, and national policy, in the time period you refer to have been made by one party!!!

    either way the Legislative provisions of the Planning and development Act 2000 and the policy arising from it are the results of our democratic choices as a nation.

    Not really the case in practice though - quite a lot of the planning granted are done despite the policies defined. Additionally, I don't ever remember anyone other than possibly the greens making PP issues part of their election campaign.

    Has anyone ever done a study of the percentage of refusals (or grants) to the general public vs those to employees/relations of council employees?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Patrickof wrote: »
    Not really the case in practice though - quite a lot of the planning granted are done despite the policies defined. Additionally, I don't ever remember anyone other than possibly the greens making PP issues part of their election campaign.

    Has anyone ever done a study of the percentage of refusals (or grants) to the general public vs those to employees/relations of council employees?

    I know from experience its harder to get planning for anyone associated with the council, or their families, for fear of not being transparent. These application tend to be so informed they are watertight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Patrickof


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    I know from experience its harder to get planning for anyone associated with the council, or their families, for fear of not being transparent. These application tend to be so informed they are watertight.

    That experience would differ from mine (at least in my immediate area).


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