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ninty9er · 14-03-2008 12:22pm #1

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beerbaron · 14-03-2008 12:30pm

The keyring just a promotion tool - much like this thread.

JHMEG · 14-03-2008 12:35pm

Is that the garage your uncle owns (or is manager of or something)?

How many other garages have you bought cars from?

Melion · 14-03-2008 12:40pm

Is that the one on the Tipperary Rd (just up the road from Halfords etc)?

--amadeus-- · 14-03-2008 12:43pm

First up it's nothing unusual. Most garages will throw in something, especially if you ask. We bought on 05 X3 from Keoghs and got a proper BMW keyring and €50 of vouchers for MINI merchandise for the kids. They screwed up a bit on transfer of documents so they also lobbed in €50 (or €100, can't rem) worth of service vouchers and a years road tax. Someone else I know bought a Volvo and got a big bunch of flowers, another friend bought a Merc CLK and got a load of Mercedes stuff - polo shirts and the like.

And secondly isn't pimping a business against the rules? I know that it's not your business but it is a family members.

Melion · 14-03-2008 1:07pm

If it is that one on the Tipp Rd i hope you're joking about it being a decent place to buy a car.

I bought a 2001 Golf there last July for 8k. The car had apparently passed the NCT 2 days before i picked it up. I drove it home to Shannon and parked it up outside the house. Then 2 minutes later drove it down to a mates house, the car died outside his house. I rang the owner of O'Mara Motors who had sold me the car and told him what happened, he got on to a mechanic in Shannon to come down and look at it who told me the timing belt was gone. Bit strange considering it had just been changed 4 days ago.

So the owner sends out a tow truck the next morning to take it away which left me without a car for a week while it was getting fixed. Got a phone call 8 days after it was towed away saying it was in perfect condition now and it had been a faulty timing belt put into the car(how did it pass the NCT) so not his fault. I accepted this and took the car away. 2 days after this while driving on a dual carriageway it kicked out of 5th gear and into neutral. I thought i might have knocked it by accident so i put it back into 5th and the same thing happened again.

I pulled into the hard shoulder to let the car sit for a minute. Started up again and got into 1st and 2nd no problem but then i physically couldnt put it into 3rd(im a big bloke), i even tried it with my right hand but no luck. So i just about got it home in 2nd gear, parked it up and rang the owner to tell him about this. Full of apologies of course, said nothing like this has ever happened(yeah right). So the next morning before work i went to start it just to check how it was, the car wouldnt even start. Luckily enough the girlfriend was still in the house and could bring me to work.

So the car sat outside my house for 3 days before the owner of the garage got his own mechanic out to take a look at the car. He said the gearbox was fúcked which i thought was strange since the owner told me there was a brand new one put in before i drove it away the first time. Got fed up of all his bullshítting and just took my money back, he tried to offer me all sorts of cars to keep the money.

Absolute cowboy and ive made sure none of my friends or family buy from him. Hopefully this post helps people realise how much of a sham that dealership is.

--amadeus-- · 14-03-2008 1:13pm

So are you saying you didn't get the free keyring and demisting cloth?

JHMEG · 14-03-2008 1:28pm

ninty9er wrote: »

It's my second car. I bought the first from another uncle who's a main Ford Dealer

What were your experiences of buying from him? Any freebies? Which uncle would you say is better?

Redsoxfan · 14-03-2008 1:37pm

Wow. Buy a car and get a free keyring and cloth. The market must be slow.

ninty9er · 14-03-2008 2:02pm

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Wow. Buy a car and get a free keyring and cloth. The market must be slow.

Wasn't too interested in the cloth and keyring, just the offer of a service voucher, considering i spent just about €5k and lumbered them with a trade sale as a trade in.

Can't find the letter now for exact wording, my dad did some shredding lastnight so I'm assuming all this week's post went in.

Melion · 14-03-2008 2:03pm

ninty9er wrote: »

Wasn't too interested in the cloth and keyring, just the offer of a service voucher, considering i spent just about €5k and lumbered them with a trade sale as a trade in.

Can't find the letter now for exact wording, my dad did some shredding lastnight so I'm assuming all this week's post went in.

Point your uncle towards my post and see what he has to say

Henry Ford III · 14-03-2008 2:06pm

Reports of this dealership are mixed. If a keyring a demisting cloth make it A1+ 99'er, I'll give that opinion it's due merit.

--amadeus-- · 14-03-2008 2:15pm

ninty9er wrote: »

Wasn't too interested in the cloth and keyring, just the offer of a service voucher, considering i spent just about €5k and lumbered them with a trade sale as a trade in

Firstly you are a nephew of teh owner so what you spent and what you got may not be comparable with what teh average punter might spend and get.

Secondly you'll get a money off voucher if someone goes in and spends more money on teh back of your recommendation. So if I bought a car and they make €2000 profit off your recommendation you'll get a €50 voucher (or whatever). Not a great commission rate that, is it?

But then, looking at your sig, maybe you are just easily pleased?!

ninty9er · 14-03-2008 2:15pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Reports of this dealership are mixed. If a keyring a demisting cloth make it A1+ 99'er, I'll give that opinion it's due merit.

Again, the demisting cloth and keyring are all nice touches, but it was the service discount that I was pointing out as the main plus point.

I know people who've bought new BMWs and haven't gotten a tank of petrol with them. So as regards their €70k shop and my €5k (+ tiny trade in) I think I've done fairly well.

@Mellion; did they sort the problem, because there's many a garage wouldn't even try...(e.g. the Main MB dealer in Limerick blaming my neighbour for being overweight and causing pressure on the wiring loom under the seat which caused the engine and electrics on a 6 month old E-Class to fail at 70 mph:eek::eek:)
Technically, you weren't entitled to your money back under Sale of Goods as they offered to put it right.

Melion · 14-03-2008 2:17pm

He blatantly lied to me saying there was a new timing belt and gear box put into the car before i collected it. I had a 3 month warranty so yes i was entitled to my money back.

--amadeus-- · 14-03-2008 2:19pm

All slagging and joking aside naming names may not be a good idea (no matter who you're related to)

Anan1 · 14-03-2008 2:21pm

JHMEG wrote: »

What were your experiences of buying from him? Any freebies? Which uncle would you say is better?

Melion · 14-03-2008 2:24pm

A tank of petrol standard? You must be joking with those shower. I put petrol into it myself and he didnt even put any into it when he took it back after the timing belt debacle

--amadeus-- · 14-03-2008 2:25pm

ninty9er wrote: »

I can accept that I probably got a better deal on the car, but a tank of petrol is standard to all customers and the letter I got was one of the mailshot type ones with no particular indication that the PR Manager even signed it by hand, let alone hand picked me because I have the same second name as the MD (no it's not O'Mara)

Then again, Irish people are very slow to actually lodge a formal compliant so it would be difficult for thisng to be set right under those circumstances.

I have no idea what you are talking about in teh second para?

As for the letter... You're making a big deal out of getting it and what a spectacular piece of customer relations it is. Everyone else is saying that it's actually not that special (oh and to stop pimping your family businesses!)

Or do you also go on the shopping forums and talk about how amazing it is that Dunnes send you money off coupons when you use your value club card and isn't that just the best customer service in the world??!

ninty9er · 14-03-2008 2:26pm

Anyway....back to my original purpose...is it normal to get a service discount for a "recommendation"...sure it could be someone who was going to buy a car there anyway:rolleyes:

Melion · 14-03-2008 2:26pm

ninty9er wrote: »

A xxxx is not the owner, and he's one of the people with the highest satisfaction ratings there...at least 4 of my mam's friends have returned to buy a 2nd car from him in the past year, and not on her recommendation either.

I will now remove the name above as you've obviously got issues with a SALESMAN (albeit ONE of the owner's son) and not one of the owners.

Id imagine its a pity thing when they return to buy cars from him and you'll be the only one who knows what that means.

Tragedy · 14-03-2008 7:06pm

ninty9er wrote: »

You definitely dealt with the wrong person:eek::eek:

I know anytime anyone I know bought a car from either uncle (new or secondhand) they got a tank of petrol. When O'Maras were based mainly on the Ennis Road they'd even fill it for you!

Yes, because you bought it from your uncle.

Is it really that hard to ****ing understand?

ninty9er · 14-03-2008 9:35pm

Tragedy wrote: »

Yes, because you bought it from your uncle.

Is it really that hard to ****ing understand?

No, that's exactly my point. I know it wasn't a singling out of me as the MDs nephew, why bother, I already have a reason to go back.

Again: te re-iterate

HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD SUCH A LETTER FROM A GARAGE WHERE THEY BOUGHT A CAR??

richardsheil · 14-03-2008 10:10pm

This is beyond belief.

You are some moron ninty9er!

ninty9er · 14-03-2008 10:29pm

FOR FU<K SAKE

CAN ANYONEANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION without taking a pop at me.

Richardshiel (anything to the local Ford dealer by any chance) you have been reported for personal abuse.:mad::mad:

galwaytt · 14-03-2008 10:30pm

Melion wrote: »

I bought a 2001 Golf there last July for 8k. The car had apparently passed the NCT 2 days before i picked it up
....... he got on to a mechanic in Shannon to come down and look at it who told me the timing belt was gone. Bit strange considering it had just been changed 4 days ago....had been a faulty timing belt put into the car(how did it pass the NCT) so not his fault.
2 days after this while driving on a dual carriageway it kicked out of 5th gear and into neutral. He said the gearbox was fúcked which i thought was strange since the owner told me there was a brand new one put in before i drove it away the first time. Got fed up of all his bullshítting and just took my money back, he tried to offer me all sorts of cars to keep the money.

I don't know this garage from Adam, and I do find the OP's post curious, given that he's related. I mean, did he NOT expect to hauled over, promoting a relations garage........??

Anyhoo - to your post.
So, you bought a car. It let you down.
They fixed it. But it let you down again.
You got your money back.
You didn't need to go to court, and they (don't seemed to have..) fought you over it.
The experience wasn't good, but, you have all your money back......so, the issue here is, what, exactly.........?

Now separately, you should note that the timing belt has absolutely nothing to do with the NCT, and the NCT explicitly state on a notice in their premises that they don't have anything to do with it, nor accept any responsibility for TB failure during, or as a result of, the NCT. You can't even see it on an engine, for goodness' sake. The NCT guys won't even unbuckle a seat belt, or lift a carpet to see if the spare wheel is there, so I honestly don't know what you are expecting from them.........

You paid 8k for a Golf, knowing it had a gearbox....'history' ? So you knew, before you bought it. So, the dealer is at fault for telling you that, rather than not...?

richardsheil · 14-03-2008 10:36pm

ninty9er wrote: »

FOR FU<K SAKE

CAN ANYONEANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION without taking a pop at me.

Richardshiel (anything to the local Ford dealer by any chance) you have been reported for personal abuse.:mad::mad:

Of course I am not related to the Ford dealer. That is your area of expertise.

You seem very thin skinned for a politician.

unkel · 15-03-2008 1:08am

richardsheil wrote: »

You are some moron ninty9er!

A lot less of that please. First and final warning.

JHMEG · 15-03-2008 1:10am

ninty9er wrote: »

would I have received a similar letter??

How difficult is that to understand.

In fairness you titled the thread O'Mara Motors - Limerick (A+)

You didn't need to mention the dealer's name, and especially not in the title, and most people seem to think you did so because the owner is your uncle, myself included.

I thought pimping was against the rules, but it doesn't seem to be.

OT, but why is your sig based essentially on Social Welfare related items?

--amadeus-- · 15-03-2008 1:12am

There have been a few posts on here saying that:

(a) What happened is not unusual or particularly impressive

and

(b) By posting it and making such a big deal of it you are basically pimping a relatives business

In the process you have also possibly libeled an easily identifable member of the staff at a named garage (who also happens to be your cousin, if I'm following things)

So I think you've probably done enough damage with this thread and it may be time to let it die!

testicle · 15-03-2008 1:38am

The same garrage knowingly sold my father a crashed car a few years ago. They denied it, after it was noticed, the previous owner was produced, who pointed out to them that not only did they know about it, they were the ones that repaired it. Cue new car.

Mike... · 15-03-2008 3:07am

As if I would ever believe used car advice from a FF supporter...
Thats a bit like appointing a Minister for Finance without a bank account..

PRND · 15-03-2008 10:10am

Hi 99er. In relation to your question, it is relatively common to have a garage write out to you like that. Agnew Audi in Belfast write to me on a regular basis, remind me when my car is due a service, tell me about the launch of new models, try to sell me an Audi credit card, which I can't take as I don't live in the UK.

They make their money back several times over by having you return to them for service and to buy other cars off them.

In the past, when I bought a second hand car, I received a letter from the salesman saying he had moved to a different garage, different marque and that he'd give me a good trade in on a replacement.

Guy:Incognito · 15-03-2008 10:13am

*mono* wrote: »

As if I would ever believe used car advice from a FF supporter...
Thats a bit like appointing a Minister for Finance without a bank account..

Do you ask everyone you buy cars off who they voted for?

PRND wrote: »

Hi 99er. In relation to your question, it is relatively common to have a garage write out to you like that. Agnew Audi in Belfast write to me on a regular basis, remind me when my car is due a service, tell me about the launch of new models, try to sell me an Audi credit card, which I can't take as I don't live in the UK.

Liffey Valley Renault regularly write to me about new cars (I bought a new clio there in 2000). Jokes on them though, cos I'm poor now.

JHMEG · 15-03-2008 10:30am

Stekelly wrote: »

Do you ask everyone you buy cars off who they voted for?

Some people just tell you, you don't have to ask, eg 99er.

I never asked you but yet I know you're a Fianna Fail supporter.

Guy:Incognito · 15-03-2008 10:34am

JHMEG wrote: »

I never asked you but yet I know you're a Fianna Fail supporter.

Yes, but in a fickle way (in fairness I've never hidden my leanings on here) . ie if FG had been in power the last 20 years I'd most likely have voted for them, outside of SF I could probably go any way (even though I didnt voted last time round, was in Athens for the CL final

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JHMEG · 15-03-2008 10:37am

Stekelly wrote: »

Yes, but in a fickle way

Point is we know and we never asked.

I come from a small town, and I know the politicial persuasion of every business person in it, and I never asked any of them. Some are like 99er and publicly parade it.

ninty9er · 15-03-2008 11:21am

Got my answer now, thanks to those who actually replied to the post and not the poster.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'll close the thread if I can??

testicle · 15-03-2008 11:23am

ninty9er wrote: »

I'll close the thread if I can??

You can't.

Sherifu · 15-03-2008 11:30am

Topic closed

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Last edited by ninty9er : Today at 13:23. Reason: ****ing idiots who can't answer a question

lol

That edit reason looks like personal abuse.

Guy:Incognito · 15-03-2008 11:33am

Sherifu wrote: »

lol

That edit reason looks like personal abuse.

More general than personal no?:)

ninty9er · 15-03-2008 11:36am

Stekelly wrote: »

More geeral than personal no?:)

Quite, I wouldn't have written it otherwise;)

Sherifu · 15-03-2008 11:36am

Stekelly wrote: »

More geeral than personal no?:)

Well it's not for me to decide. Pity the thread backfired on the OP.

ninty9er wrote: »

Quite, I wouldn't have written it otherwise

I'm sure of that. Bravery.

JHMEG · 15-03-2008 12:01pm

I'm slightly biased on this, but I've never heard of the same thing from another garage.

Bought a 01 Astra about 6 weeks ago there and I got a letter yesterday with a proper keyring (the type with the shopping trolley coin) and a demisting cloth with all contact details including breakdown assistance.

On top of this, if I recommend them to anyone who goes on to buy a car on my recommendation, they'll send me a service voucher...class eh

Is this normal??

I couldn't remember what this thread was about, but fortunately it's still in the Google cache. The above are ninety9er's words. I thought only mods could close threads

ninty9er · 15-03-2008 12:04pm

JHMEG wrote: »

I'm slightly biased on this, but I've never heard of the same thing from another garage.

Bought a 01 Astra about 6 weeks ago there and I got a letter yesterday with a proper keyring (the type with the shopping trolley coin) and a demisting cloth with all contact details including breakdown assistance.

On top of this, if I recommend them to anyone who goes on to buy a car on my recommendation, they'll send me a service voucher...class eh

Is this normal??

[I couldn't remember what this thread was about, but fortunately it's still in the Google cache. The above are ninety9er's words. I thought only mods could close threads]

Only mods can, I've asked for it to be closed, but I edited the title.

JHMEG · 15-03-2008 12:11pm

ninty9er wrote: »

Only mods can, I've asked for it to be closed, but I edited the title.

And deleted the first post. I thought that altering the flow of a thread by deleting posts was against the rules.

Esel · 15-03-2008 12:29pm

I always look at a thread with the first post 'deleted'. Kind of backfires on the OP imo.

DonJose · 15-03-2008 1:39pm

testicle wrote: »

The same garrage knowingly sold my father a crashed car a few years ago. They denied it, after it was noticed, the previous owner was produced, who pointed out to them that not only did they know about it, they were the ones that repaired it. Cue new car.

So how would you rate them

Did your uncle get a free keyring demisting cloth LOL

JHMEG wrote: »

O'Mara Motors - Limerick (A+) I'm slightly biased on this, but I've never heard of the same thing from another garage.

Bought a 01 Astra about 6 weeks ago there and I got a letter yesterday with a proper keyring (the type with the shopping trolley coin) and a demisting cloth with all contact details including breakdown assistance.

On top of this, if I recommend them to anyone who goes on to buy a car on my recommendation, they'll send me a service voucher...class eh

Is this normal??

I couldn't remember what this thread was about, but fortunately it's still in the Google cache. The above are ninety9er's words. I thought only mods could close threads

Google rocks

esel wrote: »

I always look at a thread with the first post 'deleted'. Kind of backfires on the OP imo.

Same here I wouldn't have bothered to read this post until I read "Topic Closed"

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