more power

sirlampsalot

i have a cluson cluelite and am looking for something with more power,it,ll be used mainly for foxes,so any help be app...

johngalway

Lightforce scope mounted 170 Striker. Can be used handheld also as easy as anything, or if you go out alone just pop it onto the scope using the supplied mount.

Blitz 240 is another lamp but to be honest it catches a shed load of wind. Lance 140 is a bit on the small side for foxing in my opinion, it's doable but it's better to get the 170 Striker.

Dimmer is an option you can consider, I have dimmer switches on both of my scope mounted lamps but not on the Blitz.

You can also get an attachment to put either the Lance or Striker under the barrel(s) of a shotgun.

I got mine from Target Sports in Bolton, more reasonably priced than anywhere local to me.

foxshooter243

johngalway wrote: »

Lightforce scope mounted 170 Striker. Can be used handheld also as easy as anything, or if you go out alone just pop it onto the scope using the supplied mount.

Blitz 240 is another lamp but to be honest it catches a shed load of wind. Lance 140 is a bit on the small side for foxing in my opinion, it's doable but it's better to get the 170 Striker.

Dimmer is an option you can consider, I have dimmer switches on both of my scope mounted lamps but not on the Blitz.

You can also get an attachment to put either the Lance or Striker under the barrel(s) of a shotgun.

I got mine from Target Sports in Bolton, more reasonably priced than anywhere local to me.

+1 great job!

sirlampsalot

johngalway wrote: »

Lightforce scope mounted 170 Striker. Can be used handheld also as easy as anything, or if you go out alone just pop it onto the scope using the supplied mount.

Blitz 240 is another lamp but to be honest it catches a shed load of wind. Lance 140 is a bit on the small side for foxing in my opinion, it's doable but it's better to get the 170 Striker.

Dimmer is an option you can consider, I have dimmer switches on both of my scope mounted lamps but not on the Blitz.

You can also get an attachment to put either the Lance or Striker under the barrel(s) of a shotgun.

I got mine from Target Sports in Bolton, more reasonably priced than anywhere local to me.

sounds good so would you rate the 170 a better lamp than the blitz,whats the power like on the 170 compared to the blitz...

johngalway

Yes, I think the Striker is the best lamp out of the Lightforce range for foxing.

The handheld Blitz is brighter and will let you see farther than the scope mounted Striker for two reasons. The Blitz has a 100Watt bulb as standard and it's reflector is 240cms across, the scope mounted Striker has a 75Watt bulb as standard and a reflector of 170 cms.

The Blitz can't be mounted to your rifle scope or under the barrel of your shotgun. So lamping alone becomes a pain in the arse. The Blitz also catches a hell of a lot more wind than the Striker, it's no fun to take out on any half windy night.

The Striker can be scope or underbarrel mounted and used as handheld as it is. It's much tidier than the Blitz and to be very honest you really don't need anything brighter, you can have too much light

The actual candle power ratings are as follows;

Handheld Blitz with 100Watt bulb 1,000,000cp

Scope mounted Striker with 75Watt bulb 400,000cp

You'll be very happy with the Striker, the wiring is **** on all Lightforce lamps but that is very very easily fixed.

If you do decide to go for a Blitz then I suggest trying Ebay and looking for an Australian seller. I got one for around 105 Euro, compared to 145 in Galway and 170 in Castlebar. Make sure you don't buy the marine version of the Blitz. But you'll get it very hard to beat Target Sports on price for a Striker, I think they do them including postage for around 112 Euro (without dimmer).

sirlampsalot

johngalway wrote: »

Yes, I think the Striker is the best lamp out of the Lightforce range for foxing.

The handheld Blitz is brighter and will let you see farther than the scope mounted Striker for two reasons. The Blitz has a 100Watt bulb as standard and it's reflector is 240cms across, the scope mounted Striker has a 75Watt bulb as standard and a reflector of 170 cms.

The Blitz can't be mounted to your rifle scope or under the barrel of your shotgun. So lamping alone becomes a pain in the arse. The Blitz also catches a hell of a lot more wind than the Striker, it's no fun to take out on any half windy night.

The Striker can be scope or underbarrel mounted and used as handheld as it is. It's much tidier than the Blitz and to be very honest you really don't need anything brighter, you can have too much light

The actual candle power ratings are as follows;

Handheld Blitz with 100Watt bulb 1,000,000cp

Scope mounted Striker with 75Watt bulb 400,000cp

You'll be very happy with the Striker, the wiring is **** on all Lightforce lamps but that is very very easily fixed.

If you do decide to go for a Blitz then I suggest trying Ebay and looking for an Australian seller. I got one for around 105 Euro, compared to 145 in Galway and 170 in Castlebar. Make sure you don't buy the marine version of the Blitz. But you'll get it very hard to beat Target Sports on price for a Striker, I think they do them including postage for around 112 Euro (without dimmer).

thanks think i,ll go for the striker,as alot of times im let down an have no lamp man so with the scope mounted one im not depending on anyone for a nights shooting.thanks for info...

J.R.

johngalway wrote: »

Yes, I think the Striker is the best lamp out of the Lightforce range for foxing.

The handheld Blitz is brighter and will let you see farther than the scope mounted Striker for two reasons. The Blitz has a 100Watt bulb as standard and it's reflector is 240cms across, the scope mounted Striker has a 75Watt bulb as standard and a reflector of 170 cms.

The Blitz can't be mounted to your rifle scope or under the barrel of your shotgun. So lamping alone becomes a pain in the arse. The Blitz also catches a hell of a lot more wind than the Striker, it's no fun to take out on any half windy night.

The Striker can be scope or underbarrel mounted and used as handheld as it is. It's much tidier than the Blitz and to be very honest you really don't need anything brighter, you can have too much light

The actual candle power ratings are as follows;

Handheld Blitz with 100Watt bulb 1,000,000cp

Scope mounted Striker with 75Watt bulb 400,000cp

You'll be very happy with the Striker, the wiring is **** on all Lightforce lamps but that is very very easily fixed.
If you do decide to go for a Blitz then I suggest trying Ebay and looking for an Australian seller. I got one for around 105 Euro, compared to 145 in Galway and 170 in Castlebar. Make sure you don't buy the marine version of the Blitz. But you'll get it very hard to beat Target Sports on price for a Striker, I think they do them including postage for around 112 Euro (without dimmer).

I also have a Striker - find it brilliant!

You're right about the wiring - it comes with a 12V cigarette lighter connection which many cut off and attach two clips which clip on to battery.

I didn't cut off the 12V connection as I felt it would be handy to able to also use it from the car's cigarette lighter socket to save battery power. I bought a cigarette lighter extension lead (below). I connected two clips to the lead which then connects to the battery in the field.

The lamp socker clips into this and it can be used with a lamp in the field. To use in the car just pull the socket out of the extension and insert in car socket - very versatile.

sirlampsalot

J.R. wrote: »

I also have a Striker - find it brilliant!

You're right about the wiring - it comes with a 12V cigarette lighter connection which many cut off and attach two clips which clip on to battery.

I didn't cut off the 12V connection as I felt it would be handy to able to also use it from the car's cigarette lighter socket to save battery power. I bought a cigarette lighter extension lead (below). I connected two clips to the lead which then connects to the battery in the field.

The lamp socker clips into this and it can be used with a lamp in the field. To use in the car just pull the socket out of the extension and insert in car socket - very versatile.

does the lightforce range not come with a connection for a battery

pestshooter7

But you'll get it very hard to beat Target Sports on price for a Striker, I think they do them including postage for around 112 Euro (without dimmer).[/quote]


try www.Deben.co.uk i got a price off 104 euro on the striker a few days ago! Including P&P so thats not to bad! Reason for it being cheap is the strength of the euro against sterling/dollar at the moment!:)

johngalway

Lightforce comes with connections for their own supplied battery, not for ordinary batteries as far as I know.

Deben cheaper than... anywhere... Will wonders never cease :eek:

Invincible

:cool:

pestshooter7 wrote: »

But you'll get it very hard to beat Target Sports on price for a Striker, I think they do them including postage for around 112 Euro (without dimmer).

try www.Deben.co.uk i got a price off 104 euro on the striker a few days ago! Including P&P so thats not to bad! Reason for it being cheap is the strength of the euro against sterling/dollar at the moment!:)[/QUOTE]

Then there's www.euro-tackle.com,they're based in a shopping centre in Dundalk,Lightforce 170 handheld lamp 99.99 euro or 104.99 including p&p, if ordered by post.
Great lamp:)

johngalway

Debens price for a SCOPE mounted 170 is actually 132.50 Euro including delivery, I knew it was bollocks that they were cheaper than Target sports (112 odd delivered) I just didn't look last night.

The reason it appeared to be cheaper was you were looking at the handheld model. Which I'm sure TS would also beat them on price.

clivej

All prices are sterling.
Just checked the prices Target sports are £124.50 plus £7 post. About €171.50 with post. Non variable power = £76.59 about€99
http://www.targetsports.co.uk/index.php?cPath=35_73&sort=2a&page=2


Opticswarehouse £114.95 plus post about €£6. About €157 with post. Non variable power = £77 about €99.50
http://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk/products.asp?cat=173
I got a scope from Opticswarehouse last week and only took 3 days (Friday to Monday) BUT E-mail them first to check if they are in stock.

As John Galway has said before get the viriable power to save the battery power for a longer shooting time.

clivej

Deben Tracer Max Pro 400m Scope Mounted 12 volt Lamping Kit, variable power and battery. 400 meter range. £105 sterling.

http://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=tracermaxpro

Is this kit any good and does anyone know what the difference is between this and the 170 Lightforce, size wise and is it focusable, (does it need to be)?

sirlampsalot

thanks lads alot of info there,think im gonna go for the blitz and the 170 striker, the striker be handy when im out on my own...

Ruger.220swift

The blitz is the only job. Dont know where this wind thing comes into it ive been using it for the past two years without a problem. i have had two of them as the first was robbed and both of them the wires came loose and had to do repair jobs on them but all the same they are the best on the market. i would recommend cutting off the cigarette connection and putting an extension onto the lead and then put two crocodile clips onto the end of the wires so the lamp connects straight to the battery, far superior.

foxshooter243

food for thought here lads, we use both a clulite and a lightforce when lamping-but we have noticed that foxes that are spotted near farmyards
and areas where they are used to car headlights or farm vehicle lights
washing across them are not so spooked by the less powerful lamp which
is similar to a car headlamp power-but the more powerful light unsettles them-anyone notice this?

johngalway

Anyone who owns a Blitz knows they're a pain in the hole in any decent wind. It's not a who has the bestest lamp competition.

FS, Yeah I've seen that but that's why I got dimmer units

Clive, AFAIK now the dimmer won't save you any battery time, they still use the same power just that the unit doesn't let all that power to the bulb. Not done any scientific tests but if anyone wants to try it out properly be my guest.

J.R.

sirlampsalot wrote: »

does the lightforce range not come with a connection for a battery

It comes with a cigarette lighter plug

clivej

johngalway wrote: »

Anyone who owns a Blitz knows they're a pain in the hole in any decent wind. It's not a who has the bestest lamp competition.

FS, Yeah I've seen that but that's why I got dimmer units

Clive, AFAIK now the dimmer won't save you any battery time, they still use the same power just that the unit doesn't let all that power to the bulb. Not done any scientific tests but if anyone wants to try it out properly be my guest.

Hi John, I'm a sparks by trade and if the dimmer unit works by reducing the voltage to the lamp then that shoud give a longer battery time. Thats if its not just a resistor in series with the lamp when the same power is used. I would think that its some kind of electronic unit to reduce the voltage. BUT I will test it when the son gets his.

johngalway

Good man Clive, I'm just going on a feeling more than anything else, comparing nights when I have the lamp on full or had no dimmer to other nights when I've used it. I'd be interested in knowing for sure if you have the right gear and time to test it

fish slapped

Lads I have the deben pro max gun mounted with the dimmer switch, I also have a lightforce blitz and an adpter so i can use the deben dimmer switch which is ideal if your not trying to cook the fox :D:D

clivej

foxshooter243 wrote: »

food for thought here lads, we use both a clulite and a lightforce when lamping-but we ...............quote]

How do you find the Clulite lamp against the Lightforce? I was just looking at this clulite model.....
http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/productDetails/Accessories_Lamps_Clulite/CLUSON+SL2+1+MILLION+BATTERY+CANDLE+PACK/

and it looks the business. It says 1000 meter range but is it as good as the lightforce? It seams to be a smaller diameter lens.

fox shooter

hi lads, i have 4 light force lamps and all 4 have a job, the lance is great for walking with battary pack, i have 2 of the stiker model without dimmer you can lamp all night at 30mph and not have a pain your hand, and i have a blitz with dimmer for calling and shooting. i do alot of lamping a least one night per week from dusk to dawn and i think the blitz is too heavy for lamping but great for shooting. if i had only one lamp it would have to be the stiker. and yes the wiring is poor but easy to sort.

Tackleberrywho

foxshooter243 wrote: »

food for thought here lads, we use both a clulite and a lightforce when lamping-but we have noticed that foxes that are spotted near farmyards
and areas where they are used to car headlights or farm vehicle lights
washing across them are not so spooked by the less powerful lamp which
is similar to a car headlamp power-but the more powerful light unsettles them-anyone notice this?

Yes
That's why I use Both.
LF170 Amber filter for picking up eyes.
P7 LED LENSER for finishing
A powerful combination

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/120042/155721.jpg

fodda

www.islandsports.ie in Castlebar.

Lightforce BLITZ Handheld .... only .... 115.00 euro

Lightforce 170 Striker Handheld .... only .... 95.00 euro

Lightforce 170 Scopemounted Striker Lamp .... only .... 115.00 euro

johngalway

clivej wrote: »

is it as good as the lightforce?

Don't know Clive. But if I was spending a tenner, I'd happily put it on a Lightforce against any other brand of lamp in it's class.