24 hour drinking in uk, should it be brought in here too?

__plec__

sorry, probably a forum about this already somewhere

just wondering what people think of it and if it should be introduced here?

i think it'd be a good thing, problem at the moment comes from all drunk people being put out on the streets at 2:30am, of course fights will start.

Also the fact that the bar is about to close there seems to be a mad rush to stock up on some drink before it does.

If it was open longer surely people would be alot more relaxed about the speed they drink at, and would leave when they are ready to leave, i actually think it could solve alot of problems.

When irish people go abroad where drinking hours are longer you rarely hear of them starting fights etc.

What do you think?

aidan_walsh

If it was open longer surely people would be alot more relaxed about the speed they drink at, and would leave when they are ready to leave

A change in attitude would accomplish the same thing.

phantom_lord

how's it working out over there?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

good luck changing the attitude of several million people, when you figure it out the muslims, christians, jews, hindus and atheists would love to hear how exactly you did it.

of course pubs should be allowed set their own closing hours, if only to stop the flood of moronic drunks onto the exact same streets, taxi ranks and chippers at half 2 every ****ing friday and saturday.

prendy

pubs arent open longer...they can vary their opening hours though.

e.g instead of say 12pm-2am on a sat they can opt for 4pm-6am.

it would cause less hassle though as you wouldnt have 000's of people on the streets at the same time. and it might make getting a taxi in dublin easier.

__plec__

aidan_walsh wrote: »

A change in attitude would accomplish the same thing.

i agree a change in attitude would result in the same thing, but how would you propose changing peoples attitudes???Unfortunately its not going to happen

biko

I'm for it. Just have bouncers pick up the worst drunks during the night and send them home in a taxi or to the drunk tank. Also ATMs in these pubs should be banned, as well as using credit cards after midnight. No more cash? No more drink!

Predhead

aidan_walsh wrote: »

A change in attitude would accomplish the same thing.

Hmmm...:rolleyes:

Mr.Nice Guy

I think it's failing miserably in Britain from what I've heard and that if anything people feel more unsafe as a result of it.

I would not welcome 24 hour drinking in this country. Can you imagine Paddy's Day here with 24 hour drinking? Nightmare tbh.

Petey2006

24 hour pub hours will do nothing to solve the problems with drink in this country. As Aidan Walsh said, it's the attitude of people that needs to change, not the pub hours. Giving idiots access to booze for longer hours will just push the problems associated with getting drunk into later hours.

gerTheGreat

biko wrote: »

Also ATMs in these pubs should be banned, as well as using credit cards after midnight. No more cash? No more drink!

I like this idea. Simple, makes sence. To answer why we don't hear about Irish people causing sh*t when abroad, is because people look at them and think 'f*ckin English'.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Problems? What drink problems? We don't have drink problems! We have taxi-availablity in the mifddle of the night problems. We have pubs-clsonig at the same time porblems. We have drink costs too much problems. We have not enough pubs problems.

Ah, why not. Sure it's hard enough to get a pins in this city as it is. And you know what? Let's go whole hog and bring it on on Good Friday. yeah!

andrewh5

The UK does NOT have 24 hour drinkking. What they do have is the option for licensees to apply throughthe courts for extended hours. This application can then be objected to by the police and local people. No pub in the UK will ever be given the right to open 24 hours whatever rumours you may have heard.
Most pubs that have applied for extended hours add on a couple of hours to the normal pub hours - closing time is earlier there than here anyway so it is no big deal.

Eru

Petey2006 wrote: »

24 hour pub hours will do nothing to solve the problems with drink in this country. As Aidan Walsh said, it's the attitude of people that needs to change, not the pub hours. Giving idiots access to booze for longer hours will just push the problems associated with getting drunk into later hours.

Exactly, countries with relaxed drinking laws also haved relaxed drainking attitudes. Irish people would spend all weekend in the pub if they could an you would end up with people fighting with bouncers, Gardai and eachother at all hours.

Also, you would have more people actually dying from drink related causes and then instead of blaming the person you would have people blaming the bar, Gardai, bouncers and emergency services.

The Irish in general dont take personal responsibility for themselves or their actions. Theres always an excuse and reason why its not their fault.

Wertz

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7274408.stm

A disaster in most areas where it was introduced in the UK....I could only envisage the same happening here tbh...

AckwelFoley

Personlally i dont have a problem with the idea, however i dont think the government would touch this idea with a barge pole considering the problems associated with drink in this country, both social and health.

galwayrush

we don't need 24 hour opening hours, but longer and staggered opening hours would help filther people onto the streets as opposed to everyone leaving the pubs and clubs at the one time with set closing hours.

bitemybanger

Sure lets make drugs and prostitution legal too.:rolleyes:

rubadub

One of the biggest problems I see is the "last round" culture, people skulling triples at the end of the night, and lining up pints, while their last 8 pints have yet to even take full effect. On holidays in very late night or 24 hour resorts you do not see this happen, when they are going home it is since they are knackered and sobering up.

The other reason for 24hr is that more and more people are not living a "9 to 5 life". Why should I be able to go to the pub for a social pint with my paper with a workmate when I finish on a friday, yet my mate in the bank doing shift work is not allowed do the same?

mikemac

biko wrote: »

Also ATMs in these pubs should be banned, as well as using credit cards after midnight. No more cash? No more drink!

Some pubs have ATM's?
Wow, I've not seen this before.

KdjaCL

Been to UK a few times and havent seen this god like thing called 24 hour drinking, more so staggered drinking times.

latest i got a drink was 6am and could have went elsewhere but was in bits

What has happened is the the same as here since smoking ban, pubs dying and only the mega pubs making money and even at that only during their happy hours (we dont have them so pubs can compete with each other like they do over there).

On a street in Sunderland there is all the cool pubs throughtout the night each ws packed at certain times and when the specials ended people moved on elsewhere. Kids would come in buy 10 shots for a pound each lash them in and move on to next cheap place.

Pubs opening till 4 or 5 would be fine after a while people would leave when the music stopped anyway same as always.

kdjac

AckwelFoley

rubadub wrote: »

One of the biggest problems I see is the "last round" culture, people skulling triples at the end of the night, and lining up pints, while their last 8 pints have yet to even take full effect. On holidays in very late night or 24 hour resorts you do not see this happen, when they are going home it is since they are knackered and sobering up.

The other reason for 24hr is that more and more people are not living a "9 to 5 life". Why should I be able to go to the pub for a social pint with my paper with a workmate when I finish on a friday, yet my mate in the bank doing shift work is not allowed do the same?

The first point you made is acommon one made towards having longer drinking hours, but i dont think the trouble on the streets is the cause of this, ramming one or 2 extra pints into you faster than you would if you had the time to drink them slower wont in my opinion make a difference.

One poster said it, and perhaps he is correct. i think its a change of the Irish cultural attitude towards drinking is needed. I lived in Denmark for a while and one thing i found to be the biggest difference on this topic is how they reacted to a person saying they were "drunk"

Here its seems to be a thing to say as a thing of honour "Oh sher i was ratarsed drunk"

I found in Denmark it was more of an embarresing thing to admit.

dsmythy

galwayrush wrote: »

we don't need 24 hour opening hours, but longer and staggered opening hours would help filther people onto the streets as opposed to everyone leaving the pubs and clubs at the one time with set closing hours.

I notice most fights taking place outside individual pubs. A lot of these fights are rollovers from something that happened inside the pub. Whether another pub is letting out or not doesn't make a difference. Or maybe that's just Swords.

Either way drink related crime has not gone down in the UK following the change in opening hours there. The violence just takes place later in the night. Here Lenihan is going to be getting a recommendation to force clubs to close an hour earlier. This won't work either as violence will just happen earlier than usual.

I don't think opening and closing hours make a difference.

Davidius

Personally I think people should really find a more productive way to spend their free time.