New Skoda Superb

Michael G

Does anyone know when the new Superb will be on sale? The Geneva pictures look good. I am nursing my excellent 2005 1.9 TDI 130 bhp automatic until I can replace it with the 2.0 DSG.

sandyg

We were told by a dealer that they would be out around end of September/October this year. Looking forward to seeing it then!

Gumbo

I have also heard that skoda will be making aVRS version of the superb.
200bhp petrol
170bhp diesel

Biro

kceire wrote: »

I have also heard that skoda will be making aVRS version of the superb.
200bhp petrol
170bhp diesel

Hardly enough to call it a VRs in a car that size though.

Gumbo

Biro wrote: »

Hardly enough to call it a VRs in a car that size though.

well i suppose they may up the power from the current VRS range

It BeeMee

Biro wrote: »

Hardly enough to call it a VRs in a car that size though.

Maybe call it a FRS - Fairly Rapid Superb

Gumbo

It BeeMee wrote: »

Maybe call it a FRS - Fairly Rapid Superb

good one

niceirishfella

VRS or no VRS?

its still a volkswagon for mean people.........not my words tho' and not my opinion. I like Skoda's and the people who drive em!

Honest.

R.O.R

niceirishfella wrote: »

VRS or no VRS?

its still a volkswagon for people with more sense than to pay VW prices.........

Honest.

+1

gordon_gekko

niceirishfella wrote: »

VRS or no VRS?

its still a volkswagon for mean people.........not my words tho' and not my opinion. I like Skoda's and the people who drive em!

Honest.

a dull person buys a volkswagon , a dull person also buys a skoda but at least they can walk out of the dealers with 4 grand still in there wallet

anthony4335

I prefer the look of the superb to that of the passat. So much so I am going to look at 2 tomorrow, along with 2 Octavia's, with the intention of buying one. Having a hard time choosing between them, like the superb slightly better than the octavia, but the octavia does better MPG by about 9mpg, so that has put a spanner in the works, will just have to wait and see which one takes my fancy.

octyvrs

gordon_gekko wrote: »

a dull person buys a volkswagon , a dull person also buys a skoda but at least they can walk out of the dealers with 4 grand still in there wallet

but an exciting person like yourself would buy a thrilling automatic diesel mondeo given the chance :rolleyes:...

Biro

anthony4335 wrote: »

I prefer the look of the superb to that of the passat. So much so I am going to look at 2 tomorrow, along with 2 Octavia's, with the intention of buying one. Having a hard time choosing between them, like the superb slightly better than the octavia, but the octavia does better MPG by about 9mpg, so that has put a spanner in the works, will just have to wait and see which one takes my fancy.

??? The Superb that's in show rooms at the moment is the mk1, they're chronic looking. Look like the old passat with an octavia grille, which was crap looking to begin with.

JHMEG

gordon_gekko wrote: »

a dull person buys a volkswagon , a dull person also buys a skoda but at least they can walk out of the dealers with 4 grand still in there wallet

That would mean then that VW is, in effect, a tax on being stupid?

Biro

JHMEG wrote: »

That would mean then that VW is, in effect, a tax on being stupid?

Maybe, but the dull person who walks out of the Skoda showroom with about a €1,500 saving (not 4 grand) on the Superb over the Passat will in fact loose their saving and far more on depreciation!

gordon_gekko

octyvrs wrote: »

but an exciting person like yourself would buy a thrilling automatic diesel mondeo given the chance :rolleyes:...

too right i would


i like skoda and were i to go for a sensible car , i would choose the skoda ahead of the VW

batman2000

some pic of the new Superb

E92

At least a VW will hold it's value. Yes Skodas are cheaper but you will also loose a packet on depreciation(especially the Superb, the Fabia and Octavia aren't so badly affected), so whether they really are a VW for a lower price is debatable really unless you intend keeping it till the engine stops working.

For that reason I'd still go for a VW over a Skoda. If you're not going to be paying more for the privilege of running one, you might as well get a "better badge" while you're at it.

richie_rvf

batman2000 wrote: »

some pic of the new Superb

Maybe it's one of those designs that will grow on me but my first reaction is OMG that's fugly!!!

I like the current car but not that one!

kikel

It might be fugly, but the boot is funky

Saloon\ hatchback in one. Cool

taken from autoexpress
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/218631/skoda_superb.html

BostonB

E92 wrote: »

At least a VW will hold it's value. Yes Skodas are cheaper but you will also loose a packet on depreciation(especially the Superb, the Fabia and Octavia aren't so badly affected), so whether they really are a VW for a lower price is debatable really unless you intend keeping it till the engine stops working.

For that reason I'd still go for a VW over a Skoda. If you're not going to be paying more for the privilege of running one, you might as well get a "better badge" while you're at it.

The bulk of Skodas are Fabia's and Octavia's. I haven't noticed a big difference in depreciation myself between VW and Skoda. But then you see silly prices for VW's with 100K on the clock. The Superb is going to lose more because its bigger and its not a very popular model, in that theres not many around.

Michael G

The size is what I like about mine. It's build on an Audi A6 chassis, not a Passat, so the back is very spacious. As I'll be trading in to a Skoda dealer from whom I have bought several cars, I'm not too worried about the trade-in value.

The hatchback feature on the new one looks brilliant.

Rowley Birkin QC

Are they still built on the A6 platform?

E92

They hatchback come saloon idea is a pure gimmick, but it's a gimmick I really like actually!

Presumably the new common rail diesels will be sold in it rather than the uber noisy PD engines.

blobert

batman2000 wrote: »

some pic of the new Superb

Was hoping for something nicer looking.

kikel

E92 wrote: »

They hatchback come saloon idea is a pure gimmick, but it's a gimmick I really like actually!

A gimmick that will be repeated across other models and other makes i'd say.

Michael G

bigkev49 wrote: »

Are they still built on the A6 platform?

The reports last week talked about the new version of Skoda's "big" saloon so I assume they are. If they want to keep existing Superb owners like me, it's unlikely that they would bring out a smaller version.

By the way I discovered this week that the Ministers in the Northern Ireland Executive have Superbs.

E92

Michael G wrote: »

The reports last week talked about the new version of Skoda's "big" saloon so I assume they are.

It's probably based on the VW Passat, which is what the last one was based on(and not the A6 as stated previously).

gpjordanf1

kceire wrote: »

I have also heard that skoda will be making aVRS version of the superb.
200bhp petrol
170bhp diesel

They are bringing out a new 2.0D VRS 200BHP this summer/autumn

Michael G

E92 wrote: »

It's probably based on the VW Passat, which is what the last one was based on(and not the A6 as stated previously).

No, it's longer than the Passat. It is basically a Passat but the chassis is the A6. (Or so I'm told by a Skoda dealer.)

E92

Michael G wrote: »

No, it's longer than the Passat. It is basically a Passat but the chassis is the A6. (Or so I'm told by a Skoda dealer.)

That doesn't mean anything. The Octavia is a much bigger car than the Golf, but guess where all it's underpinnings came from:)?

The Superb is definately based on the Passat. Even the front doors are straight off a Passat(the rest of the exterior uses different parts though FWIW)! The interior bears more than a passing resemblance to the Passat(because most of the switchgear was taken from the Passat). They lengthened the chassis of the Passat for the last one by 10 cm, apart from that it's a Passat really;).

The Superb has never had anything to do with the Audi A6, apart from the fact Skoda and Audi are in the same company!

Rowley Birkin QC

I drove one about 14 months ago and it seems a much bigger car than a Passat. Very impressed with it, depreciation was the only reason we didn't buy one.

Michael G

E92 wrote: »

That doesn't mean anything. The Octavia is a much bigger car than the Golf, but guess where all it's underpinnings came from:)? ... The Superb is definately based on the Passat. The Superb has never had anything to do with the Audi A6, apart from the fact Skoda and Audi are in the same company!

You might be right; I'm just passing on what I was told. But I don't really care. I have had three years of complete satisfaction with my Superb and I'm going to buy another one.

niceirishfella

bigkev49 wrote: »

Are they still built on the A6 platform?

Errrrmmmm, but i dont belive they are built on an A6 floorplan. Eventhough Skoda are part of the VAG group as does Audi, the superb is based on a elongated old Vw Passat floorpan.

also, the point about skoda drivers walking out of the skoda showroom with 4k saved. Well, they save 4k - GREAT! But what do they do with it.........these people seem to be obsessed with shaving a few quid here and mising away there...........

what do they do with the 4k saved.......? Give it to charity.....put it away for the kids education? Donate it to AL Gore to try and save the planet? Doubt it. They just dont spend it........tho' they save it buy not buying the VW.
They probably just look at the current account statement and get a warm glow by seeing it in the a/c - but in there - its doing fook all.

So - for ever and a day, they drive around a car with a badge saying "I'm a bit tight - and not ashamed of it"
ohhhh and yes , depreciation is wicked on some skodas esp. high milers in the uk, you'll get one for 3ksterling up - see
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/SKODA+SUPERB/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146,N-9-19-4294966827-4294966834/search.action
On the flip side,for a buyer - they could make an excellent bargain barge (if you put a paper bag over your head when you drive it!) ;-P


good on yis - as i said before - I like Skodas and their drivers.

Honest.

Zonda999

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

They are bringing out a new 2.0D VRS 200BHP this summer/autumn

I've been following the new superb for a good while now and i've heard nothing of this.Afaik, the only engines coming at at launch are:

1.4 TSI 120bhp
1.8 TSI 160bhp (7spd dsg and 4wd versions to follow)
3.6 FSI 260bhp (dsg and 4wd as std)
1.9 PD TDI 105BHP
2.0 PD TDI 140bhp (dsg option)
2.0 CR TDI 170bhp (dsg and 4wd versions to follow)

Its possible that the 3.6 will be badged an vRS but i've heard nothing of any other engines.That said, that 1.9 TDI will probably be gone in the near future.....

return guide

Zonda999 wrote: »

I've been following the new superb for a good while now and i've heard nothing of this.Afaik, the only engines coming at at launch are:

1.4 TSI 120bhp
1.8 TSI 160bhp (7spd dsg and 4wd versions to follow)
3.6 FSI 260bhp (dsg and 4wd as std)
1.9 PD TDI 105BHP
2.0 PD TDI 140bhp (dsg option)
2.0 CR TDI 170bhp (dsg and 4wd versions to follow)

Its possible that the 3.6 will be badged an vRS but i've heard nothing of any other engines.That said, that 1.9 TDI will probably be gone in the near future.....

Current Superb has the 1.9 pd at 115bhp, I hope they do not drop it to 105 bhp considering its size/weight.

I have to say i like the look of the new car, I do not think the 140 will fall into my company allowance, so I am hoping for a 115 elegence.

E92

The vRS will be a 3.6 FSI V6 with more than 300 bhp.

Putting in the antiquated PD diesels is a big mistake, especially with our new VRT system, where engine capacity no longer matters, and especially when we're on the brink of changing from one of the most if not THE most diesel phobic country in Europe to being one that will one of the biggest embracers of diesel engines in Europe(the SIMI thinks 70% of us will buy a new car next year will buy diesel, now considering last year only 1 in 4 new car buyers bought diesel, that's a changeover of epic proportions, in other places that have taken to diesel engines, the change from petrol towards diesel took much longer and was more constant and I'd say that's a bit conservative as only Fiesta sized and smaller realistically do better in petrol form price-wise) under our new VRT system.

Come July, diesel will be all the rage here(even before the changeover, 33% of new car sales this year already are diesel), so good bang up to date diesels are essential.

E92

I just looked at Skoda's international website.

It will have the antiquated diesels, though for some odd reason the most powerful 2.0 TDI, the 170 version will have the new common rail engine.

Worse still is that the GreenLine model, the model with the lowest CO2, is in the lowest VRT bracket for Ireland is the 1.9 TDI PD. So everyone is going to be buying this engine here then obviously.

And it does have only 105 bhp.

The Octavia vRS will get the new common rail diesel soon though replacing the PD unit current found in diesel vRS Octavias, which is a good thing.

return guide

E92 wrote: »

I just looked at Skoda's international website.

It will have the antiquated diesels, though for some odd reason the most powerful 2.0 TDI, the 170 version will have the new common rail engine.

Worse still is that the GreenLine model, the model with the lowest CO2, is in the lowest VRT bracket for Ireland is the 1.9 TDI PD. So everyone is going to be buying this engine here then obviously.

And it does have only 105 bhp.

The Octavia vRS will get the new common rail diesel soon though replacing the PD unit current found in diesel vRS Octavias, which is a good thing.

I hope they are very competitve on their 140 bhp then because they may lose their target base.

Zonda999

The 105 1.9tdi may be a very old engine but yourr average irish joe soap does'nt seem to care.That engine is still selling very well in the passat.Nearly all the new passats you see in this country use that engine.Its not that slow after all and always has sufficient grunt for safe overtaking.Its a noisy engine when started up but when on the move it aint too bad at all.I, personally would take the 2.0tdi anyday, would be well woth the extra.Shame the 140 version in the superb aint CR.Dont think that skoda alone are being deprived, though.The vw tiguan, also a recently launced car also uses the pd 140 unit.Audi appear to have exclusive use at the moment.Cant be for too long though....BTW, i wonder how much a nicely specced superb 170 tdi 4wd will cost when its launched??

Biro

Actually, the Passat was based on the old A6 chassis, and the Superb was based on a slightly stretched Passat chassis. The current A6 chassis is on it's own, not shared by Passat or Superb, cause it's aluminium and too expensive for the other two cars. So the new B6 Passat is actually on a longer Golf Chassis, which will be what the Superb will be based on. The engine changed from always being in-line in the Passats to being transverse in the B6 model, which increased cabin space. I expect the Superb to be the same.

BostonB

niceirishfella wrote: »

.........these people seem to be obsessed with shaving a few quid here and mising away there....... ....they drive around a car with a badge saying "I'm a bit tight - and not ashamed of it"....put a paper bag over your head when you drive it!.......

Thats a bit of inane idea, as it doesn't stop at the A6. Why buy an A6 unless your too tight buy a A8 or a S Class. You talk like 4k is pocket change. I don't even know any well off people who think like that. Money is money.

niceirishfella

BostonB wrote: »

Thats a bit of inane idea, as it doesn't stop at the A6. Why buy an A6 unless your too tight buy a A8 or a S Class. You talk like 4k is pocket change. I don't even know any well off people who think like that. Money is money.

BostonB, Chill - I'm taking the mick to a degree.
But I'am questionaing the who idea of saving money at purchase - when depreciation is wicked on trade in on some of these Skodas.

BostonB

niceirishfella wrote: »

BostonB, Chill - I'm taking the mick to a degree.
But I'am questionaing the who idea of saving money at purchase - when depreciation is wicked on trade in on some of these Skodas.

You can't save money on any car. Its an expense.

Cars can be pitched too far (too expensive) for their brands image. Superb, Phaeton etc.