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jessbud · 10-03-2008 4:01pm #1

:mad:Hi. Is there anyone there from the KCC Site Forum. Went to it this afternoon and it has been taken off. I was only on the site this morning and didn't see anything that would warrant this.:mad:

Joe Public · 10-03-2008 4:15pm

They used some lame excuses for taking it off like libelous while at the same time they are not responsible for the content of postings. They banned 5 users in the last two weeks for using bad language and having an argument with a poster. The bannings were a bit OTT. The latest postings were to do with the proposed new town centre in Celbridge and info re. planning notices. You would not expect this to cause them to take the forum off the air but who knows???

Kildrought · 10-03-2008 5:29pm

There was an alternative forum set up on some time back but I don't remember the details - does anyone have it?

Joe Public · 10-03-2008 6:54pm

it's at this link - http://campbells.proboards52.com/index.cgi

Here might be a better place for getting a bit of airplay on more serious local matters and over there for the rest.

The Raven. · 10-03-2008 10:35pm

Joe Public wrote: »

They used some lame excuses for taking it off like libelous while at the same time they are not responsible for the content of postings. They banned 5 users in the last two weeks for using bad language and having an argument with a poster. The bannings were a bit OTT. The latest postings were to do with the proposed new town centre in Celbridge and info re. planning notices. You would not expect this to cause them to take the forum off the air but who knows???

Did anyone see any of the posts this morning? I certainly didn't see anything over the weekend that would warrant closing all the fora! I think it's an absolute shame. All the information on planning etc. is in the public domain anyway, particularly on the KCC planning enquiry websites for public viewing. The public are entitled to see all of it, and it is extremely important that they do! We cannot sit idly by while developers carve up our town without any meaningful consultation with local residents.

Chiron · 10-03-2008 11:57pm

That forum was ruined by a moderator who was entrusted with a level of power that was waaaay above his intelligence level.

I think its closure is for the best as it has opened peoples eyes to both this forum and the one mentioned by Joe above where real debate is allowed.

Now, anybody for a rant about Tesco..........?:D

jessbud · 11-03-2008 10:12am

Hey guys. Thanks for the link, found the site. I think nearly all the original members are on there.:o It looks like a good forum.

The Raven. · 11-03-2008 1:14pm

Do you think they waited until after kildare.ie won the LAMA Award for "Best Use of External Communications"? While KCC are basking in the glory of this prestigious Award, they have taken away the entire online communication from the residents of all the towns in Co. Kildare by removing the discussion forums. There is something not quite right about this!

The Local Authority Members’ Association (LAMA) represents elected councillors nationwide. They play a pivotal role in local government, being charged with representing their constituents in local issues, providing leadership within the community and being responsible for the provision of local services. Cited from connect

BuffyBot · 28-03-2008 7:37pm

I see it's belatedly made KFM news today http://www.kfmradio.com/new/news.php?articleid=000010724

April08 · 28-03-2008 8:40pm

It also made page 12 in this weeks local paper!!!!

Joe Public · 29-03-2008 3:13pm

They also took away the forum archives, would the forum contributors have some rights over these?

BuffyBot · 29-03-2008 4:01pm

I would highly doubt it, what rights would you assume?

Joe Public · 29-03-2008 9:25pm

BuffyBot, you might be a little biased - lol. What about intellectual rights and sweat and tears that went into the postings. What about freedom of information?

BuffyBot · 29-03-2008 10:41pm

Biased, how?

I'm pretty sure when users signed up to the forums, you signed up to a T&C that most likely has a nice round get out clause that says they can pull the service when and where they like, and they can do what they want with what anyone posted. It's pretty standard.

As for FOI..well I don't really see this falling under it, but you'ld need an expert to confirm it.

Joe Public · 30-03-2008 2:57am

The biased bit - you being a forum moderator I wouldn't expect you to speak badly of others in a similar position.

Re. T&C, I couldn't tell you what they were but I don't recall ( a Bertieism ) any nice,catch all, get out clauses.

FOI covers General right of access to information held by public authorities but then again County Councils have their own ways around things which makes them a bit unique in these situations.

BuffyBot · 30-03-2008 10:39am

Joe Public wrote: »

The biased bit - you being a forum moderator I wouldn't expect you to speak badly of others in a similar position.

Eh, right. Must be our memberships of the "Forum Moderators of Ireland" Union that does it. Moderators on this site barely agree with each other 50% of the time - never mind other sites. We're not paid, we don't all know each other. I think you're seeing connections where there are none. I've never been on KCC's forum so I know diddly-squat about who did what to whom over there, and care even less.

Re. T&C, I couldn't tell you what they were but I don't recall ( a Bertieism ) any nice,catch all, get out clauses.

Doesn't mean they weren't there. I'd be surprised if there wasn't one, though. Most sites will have something similar.

FOI covers General right of access to information held by public authorities but then again County Councils have their own ways around things which makes them a bit unique in these situations.

Again though, you would need expert advice as to whether or not some forum postings fall under FOI. I doubt it, from my understanding.

remoh · 26-05-2008 7:22pm

The Raven. wrote: »

Do you think they waited until after kildare.ie won the LAMA Award for "Best Use of External Communications"? While KCC are basking in the glory of this prestigious Award, they have taken away the entire online communication from the residents of all the towns in Co. Kildare by removing the discussion forums. There is something not quite right about this!

The Local Authority Members’ Association (LAMA) represents elected councillors nationwide. They play a pivotal role in local government, being charged with representing their constituents in local issues, providing leadership within the community and being responsible for the provision of local services. Cited from connect

I think you will find that kildare.ie is not run by KCC, its run by kildare community network, although funded by KCC, so kildare.ie and the KCC are two different websites

ChewChew · 26-05-2008 9:46pm

well who needs the KCC forum when we have:

www.campbells.proboards52.com

and now the new one

www.kildareforum.com

:D:D

The Raven. · 26-05-2008 11:39pm

remoh wrote: »

I think you will find that kildare.ie is not run by KCC, its run by kildare community network, although funded by KCC, so kildare.ie and the KCC are two different websites

KCC are board members of the Community Network. Check the website:

http://kildare.ie/aboutus/aboutus-beginning.asp

Check the following website also:

http://archives.tcm.ie/kildarenationalist/2007/11/22/story26681.asp

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