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Grizzly 45

Hi all,
Well,I dunno if this should go in the shooting thread or here..I am looking for two guns,deact or prefably live.One is the old style Winchester 1897 "Trench Broom" 12 Ga pump gun.But with the Irish connection,of having still the RIC logo burned into the buttstock.This is ; letters RIC, the old Irish state Harp,and a year number burned into it.Anyone have,know anyone whodoes,or any info???

Second is proably a pipe dream,but maybe somone knows if such is around . During the war we had numerous German aircraft crash land in Ireland.Some of these were long range Focke Wulf 2000 AKA the Condor.What I am looking for is what might have been carried on them or any German aircraft is specific gun.Namely a Sauer Drilling.This is a double barrel shotgun,with a large rifle barrel underneath it.They were exellently made guns and issued on orders by Hermann Goring to Luftwaffe crews that were going over long inhospitable missions over unfriendly terrain as a means of food procurement,and defense.It was issued in a large aluminum case with cleaning kits ,ammo etc.

I know a few were recoverd from downed German aircraft in the UK,where they issued to home gaurd units as stopgap weaponary.After the war the rifle barrel were bored out to make 410 shotgun barrels,thus making them a shotgun holdable on a shotgun cert,but ruining their collector value.:(

Now I am assuming and hoping maybe somone in the Irish Army salvage crew or LDF picked up one of these or some lucky farmer or souviner hunter did <snip> ,or was issued one as a tempoary weapon to defend against the German invasion.

Anyone see ,hear,know,have any info on this?
Muchos Gracias
Grizzly 45

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The guns taken from the downed German aircraft were last seen in the stores in Clancy Barracks in Dublin in the 1980s and were still in mint condition.
Regards.
Tom.