dunne v munroe

carlos30

After watching the Kiko and Munroe fight , its never fails to surprise me how people in this boxing forum see bernard dunne with rose tinted glasses

I travel to the uk quite a bit with work and I try to get to see as many boxing matches as possible

I have seen munroe fight twice before and the guy is very impressive

he is super fit and a big guy for that division , he out boxed kiko but had to work hard , and I think anybody who watched the earlier rounds was waiting for Kiko power punch to end munroe

I think Munroe should get more credit ,I have seen all of dunne fight and I am still not convinced against decent opposition ie ( munroe or kiko )

that he would win comfortably

I watched Kiko hammer Dunne , and you guys can say what u want , I think if there was a rematch , most Irish boxing fans would not be confident enough of Dunne winning

Dunne conditioning is poor , he has no upper body strength and need to bulk up if he has any chance of ever winning a world title

I found it funny that everybody reckons now Dunne will beat munroe , from watching one of his fights against kiko

munroe has been on the circuit for years and was very impressive agst Kiko , the guy is in super condition and bundles of energy and can bang when required , he hit kiko with some beautiful right hooks during the fight

I think munroe and bernard dunne fighing style could be quite similar , I think Kiko would beat dunnne again maybe not as quick but dunne would punch and move and then get hit by one of kikos bombs

Dunnes a lightweight he has no chin , and I find it quite insulting that munroe gets no credit for his victory

Dunne could not do the job , he has fought bums for years and then faces Kiko and get destroyed

Murnoe could defo be a world title challenger in the very near future

joepenguin

After seeing kiko go 12 rounds and look bad in the process, this must have dunne kicking himself, but also give him a psychological edge as martinez is no longer seen as an undefeated KO artist from nowher and the way he is percieved now is different. Not that his power should be underestimated, but having seen Munroe win convincingly should give Dunne a bit of confidence if they fight again.

What next for Kiko, should he push for a rematch for:
1) the title
2) with dunne
3) beat up some locals in alicante

walshb

If Beranrd really did want a rematch he would have asked long ago IMO.....

And did Kiko really hit all that hard???

cowzerp

i think he does hit hard bren, munroe was super cautious of getting caught clean, he boxed the way dunne should of, i think the over hyping of dunne led him to believe he was unstoppable, hopefully he has learned from it, but only time will tell.

fatjose101

i can't ever see Dunne challenge for a world title.

if you look at that division, you'll see Vasquez and Marquez at the top
and Dunne is nowhere near their level and never will be.

alanceltic

Munroe done a good job on kiko, nobody disputes that in any shape or form but he is not the fighter you make him out to be.

Im sure he is super fit and he looks a monster, for those of you who taught kiko was big at the weight, Munroe DWARFED kiko but the problem with munroe is that he doesnt have any technique and doesnt get any leverage on his punches, kiko made him look a whole lot better than he actually is but I would be wholesome in my credit to him for his strategy on the night and he grew in confidence as the fight wore on.

The question is which route will munroe take, will he opt for Pickering who based on his last performance is looking very shaky or will he be lured by the €€€€€ to a dunne fight, he beats Pickering IMO but theres no way he has anything on Dunne and id put money on that.

ODD-JOB

AS I heard ,... Monroe's end had money on him winning on points.
I think it was 12/1 or so.....
I kept thinking about that with the short powerless flurries he threw.
He didnt ever want to win by KO.

I Believe Monroe can bang with the best of them , as big Ears has previously said. He is quite a big guy for that weight.
I can understand him being cautious against a KO artist like Kiko, but Monroe had plenty of chances to throw in a few bombs, he choose not to.

What kind of purse would Monroe have got for that fight ?

walshb

If this Monroe really is feather fisted and not all that strong or busy, then Dunne might have a chance to last the full distance. Whether or not Dunne can win is another story...I wouldn't bet on it though. And before anyone jumps in claiming 'begrudger', the facts speak for themselves, Dunne gets obliterated in 86 secs and Monroe beats Dunne's conqueror....

megadodge

Walshb, you're using the Frazier beat Ali, Foreman obliterates Frazier so what chance does Ali have against Foreman theory.

Styles make fights and I think Dunne could outbox Munroe for the first half of the fight. Whether his stamina is good enough to help him win the one or two more rounds necessary I'm not sure of, but I actually think a Dunne points victory would be a good bet if they were to meet.

buck65

Well done to Munroe.

walshb

megadodge wrote: »

Walshb, you're using the Frazier beat Ali, Foreman obliterates Frazier so what chance does Ali have against Foreman theory.

Styles make fights and I think Dunne could outbox Munroe for the first half of the fight. Whether his stamina is good enough to help him win the one or two more rounds necessary I'm not sure of, but I actually think a Dunne points victory would be a good bet if they were to meet.

Absolutely not. I know full well styles make fights. I'm using the scenario if Monroe is a good fighetr, he will beat Dunne. Is that simpler for you Mega??:)

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

If this Monroe really is feather fisted and not all that strong or busy, then Dunne might have a chance to last the full distance. Whether or not Dunne can win is another story...I wouldn't bet on it though. And before anyone jumps in claiming 'begrudger', the facts speak for themselves, Dunne gets obliterated in 86 secs and Monroe beats Dunne's conqueror....

Munroe's not feather fisted at all , he merely didn't put much behind his punches due to the fear of being countered .

Munroe is a lot better than Friday night made him look , and I think a fight between him and Dunne will be really interesting . Munroe will defeat Pickering for the British title in his next fight(and it's not going to take even 6 rounds)

As for Martinez's power , it seems more than genuine to me . Friday has me convinced that if he isn't the hardest hitter in the division he's in the top 5 . It's the rest of him that lets himself down .

walshb

Monroe fought Kiko the way he had to. He was cautious because, as was said, he feared Kiko's power. Here's the issue. Any Dunne followers or people who think Dunne has a chance to beat anyone, including Monroe, have to realise that Monroe has nothing to fear when Dunne is the opponent, hence, he can relax and fight more than what he showed V Kiko...

If Monroe doesn't have to worry about Dunne's power, he can open up a lot more and this could be fatal for Dunne.....

alanceltic

walshb wrote: »

Monroe has nothing to fear when Dunne is the opponent..

Are you 4 real???? I would have said the exact opposite, OK neither boxer bangs anywhere near as big as Kiko and munroe actually has a lower KO percentage so it is a straight contest in terms of boxing ability and would be a very similar fight in terms of the Dunne Pickering fight IMO. I believe that Dunne would win quite handy as munroes style suits him down to a tee but I believe that Munroe will go for Pickering next and beat him as he has been really struggling over the last 12 months. With hunter due to drop back down to SB there could be one or two interesting fights at european level in the next 6-9 months

walshb

alanceltic wrote: »

Are you 4 real???? I would have said the exact opposite, OK neither boxer bangs anywhere near as big as Kiko and munroe actually has a lower KO percentage so it is a straight contest in terms of boxing ability and would be a very similar fight in terms of the Dunne Pickering fight IMO. I believe that Dunne would win quite handy as munroes style suits him down to a tee but I believe that Munroe will go for Pickering next and beat him as he has been really struggling over the last 12 months. With hunter due to drop back down to SB there could be one or two interesting fights at european level in the next 6-9 months

If Munroe has a half decent chin, then IMO, he has zero to fear from Dunne. Bernard will not KO him, as he doesn't have the punch. So if Munroe has no punch and Dunne has no punch, then yes, it comes down to boxing ability. But if Munroe possesses even a decent shot, he will KO Dunne......