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09-03-2008 8:40pm#1
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Wanted one of these fellas since i found em on wiki ages ago.
bengal or savannah,, i do however know a lady in scotland who has..
a full wild f1 SERVAL... im not sure if she has started a savannah breeding programe with him yet..
but its worth asking, lovely lovely people as well, have a look at her serval " macchuie " hes worth a look just for his lovely big ears,
imagine taking a serval for a walk LOL
http://www.gayzette-bengals.co.uk/html/macchuie_gallery.html0 -
ukgalwaymcguire wrote: »bengal or savannah,, i do however know a lady in scotland who has..
a full wild f1 SERVAL... im not sure if she has started a savannah breeding programe with him yet..
but its worth asking, lovely lovely people as well, have a look at her serval " macchuie " hes worth a look just for his lovely big ears,
imagine taking a serval for a walk LOL
http://www.gayzette-bengals.co.uk/html/macchuie_gallery.html
Savannah. For the lulz of watching it scoop water out of a bowl. And roaring and chirping. ^_^0 -
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helena.ryan wrote: »Right there's Nerins Christmas pressie sorted. :P
^_^
I think my current cat beast wouldn't be too pleased. Hes a normal breed that thinks hes one of these guys
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Minesajackdaniels wrote: »ukgalwaymcguire
How do you advise people on the care and upkeep of F1 wild hybrid cats or domesticated cats coming from hybrid backgrounds?
Do you recommend they be indoor-only cats? I have heard they have tendancies to be extremely expert at killing wildlife (though the same could be said of any domestic cat in fairness,) but also that they can be extremely territorial so they may kill other domestic cats that range into their territory?
yes your 100 % right, bengals and savannahs when first introduced were
illegal too be let outside these rules have since changed though
in regard too the sbt line, (f4,s and downwards towards the domesticated bloodlines) this was because it was like the killing fields in regards too birds and mice etc, (handy for the farmer!!)
in america they reckon a single bengal can kill 300 birds or mice a day,
this was then reported by jean mill, who introduced bengals (she bred them from the asian leopard cat too get rid of feline aids ) too be utter rubbish, yes they can kill a lot both bengals and savannahs are extremly agile and fast...... but not 300 a day..
since then its only f1s that have too be registered and thats only with a local council anyway.
i personally dont let my 2 leopard spotted out because they are full queens at the moment, my snow bengal however is 5 so she is retired and has had her op, so she does go out, but she never goes out for more than 10 mins at a time she howls too come back in,
when i lived in england,she would kill frogs every day (little cow) looked mental a frog hanging out of her mouth, (poor froggy) but since being in ireland for some reason she has chilled out a lot.
the other reason for not letting them out, is they will get stolen, happened so many times, and they are completly DUMB when it comes too cars, they will get scared at first of the noise, then once they get used too it, there wild im not scared of anything brain comes in.
plus they really are happy indoors, wrecking your house and life in general, and eating like food is going out of fashion in the summer i let my leopards out in the garden and they lay there panting thinking there lions (silly cows)..
my own opinion of the killing sprees of hybrids is there more agile hence they catch more, but there no more inclined than any other cat really.^_^
I think my current cat beast wouldn't be too pleased. Hes a normal breed that thinks hes one of these guys
mm nerin , introduced bengals too my siamese who is a grumpy old sod sometimes, and they really are all fine, i think you should make your dream come true!!0 -
Thanks for that.
I don't let my DSH cats out because they just have a limited sense of self preservation - well, I do have one who'll stay within 50 feet of the house but I don't let him out much anyway (once a month even?) because the more they go out, the more they want to go out.
Our tabby could probably hunt his way through vast numbers in a day, but we don't let him out. The reason was reinforced the other day - my housemate, who was born in a barn, left the front door and screen doors open and out the tabby went. He made a direct bee line for the main road and the nature reserve across from it. Took me 15 minutes to catch him.
(Lucky I did. He has an ulcer on his eye from an overzealous wrestling match with another of our indoor cats, and was due for surgery the next morning. He's had the surgery and is currently an E-collar wearer, which is a whole other post...)
I have a couple of adopted tabby kittens at the moment, and I'm suspicious about their blood lines. Bengals are quite popular in Melbourne, and interestingly there's a strong muslim community at a town about 25k south of us - they take excellent care of their animals, best food, best toys, all vaccinated, wormed, they'll spend a fortune on their pets if they're injured, but a large number of them will not neuter their pets, on religious grounds. My tabbies are rescues from the vet in that town.
My tabby boy in particular makes me suspicious - he and his sister are light coloured, dark stripes and spots on a gold/white base. They both have eyes the colour of mud - like an amber brown. He has strong, distinctive stripes on his cheeks, and a lot of spots in his coat along with stripes. His sister has a face like a cheetah! They're both water mad (bought them a drinking fountain, they love to play in it) and they're serious climbers (up the curtains and onto the curtain rail in 10 seconds flat). By 10 weeks of age, both he and his sister would walk around with a 'prize' (toy mouse, piece of cloth, half a toilet roll insert) in their mouths, growling furiously at anyone who came near. The girl chirps occasionally in with her tiny kitten squeaks.
They were born 1 September, their mother is definitely a DSH, but I'm wondering if Bengal is in their lineage somewhere. I doubt it's a 50/50 mix, but it could be 25%! We'll see if their coats become clearer as they age - at the moment, the girl in particular still has a lot of kitten fuzz in her coat.0 -
Minesajackdaniels wrote: »Thanks for that.
I don't let my DSH cats out because they just have a limited sense of self preservation - well, I do have one who'll stay within 50 feet of the house but I don't let him out much anyway (once a month even?) because the more they go out, the more they want to go out.
Our tabby could probably hunt his way through vast numbers in a day, but we don't let him out. The reason was reinforced the other day - my housemate, who was born in a barn, left the front door and screen doors open and out the tabby went. He made a direct bee line for the main road and the nature reserve across from it. Took me 15 minutes to catch him.
(Lucky I did. He has an ulcer on his eye from an overzealous wrestling match with another of our indoor cats, and was due for surgery the next morning. He's had the surgery and is currently an E-collar wearer, which is a whole other post...)
I have a couple of adopted tabby kittens at the moment, and I'm suspicious about their blood lines. Bengals are quite popular in Melbourne, and interestingly there's a strong muslim community at a town about 25k south of us - they take excellent care of their animals, best food, best toys, all vaccinated, wormed, they'll spend a fortune on their pets if they're injured, but a large number of them will not neuter their pets, on religious grounds. My tabbies are rescues from the vet in that town.
My tabby boy in particular makes me suspicious - he and his sister are light coloured, dark stripes and spots on a gold/white base. They both have eyes the colour of mud - like an amber brown. He has strong, distinctive stripes on his cheeks, and a lot of spots in his coat along with stripes. His sister has a face like a cheetah! They're both water mad (bought them a drinking fountain, they love to play in it) and they're serious climbers (up the curtains and onto the curtain rail in 10 seconds flat). By 10 weeks of age, both he and his sister would walk around with a 'prize' (toy mouse, piece of cloth, half a toilet roll insert) in their mouths, growling furiously at anyone who came near. The girl chirps occasionally in with her tiny kitten squeaks.
They were born 1 September, their mother is definitely a DSH, but I'm wondering if Bengal is in their lineage somewhere. I doubt it's a 50/50 mix, but it could be 25%! We'll see if their coats become clearer as they age - at the moment, the girl in particular still has a lot of kitten fuzz in her coat.
mmmm interesting, from your description i would say there 100% bengal, lol i wouldnt say there any less than 50/50 they sound too bengal type and bengal type behaviour too be any less too be honest
and also when you get past 50/50 they become a lot less type than that,
and the spots... they usually disapear completly, can you post a pic up of them??? i would love too see them!!
( i keep having this nightmare lol,, that im going too end up the old lady with 100s of cats and alone once the kids have gone, ... find boyfriend fast lol))) no i totally love all cats, some folks who have pedigree get all snobish over cats but me i just love all cats big and small
but i would say your 2 are 50/50s defo...
im gonna check out your e collar post now and i hope mr tabby is well and recovering bless him..0
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