Announcement Today

Chardee MacDennis

So anyone reckon we'll see any new products today or just the SDK. I reckon we'll get the 3G iPhone announcement with it being ready in a couple of week. then i'll really want one!!

BanzaiBk

Imo they'll show off a SDK beta and announce that it is delayed, some devs will show off their fledgling apps, they'll say stuff about the rumoured "free" apps and the apps sold via iTunes, possible 3G iPhone announcement. I'd be surprised if the SDK is released.

Edit: Am I right in thinking that if they announce a 3G phone that they will have to put it through FCC approval so it'll take a few weeks to ship?

Kid Nothing

I doubt they'll be releasing a 3G iPhone before the summer, especially after releasing it over here where 3G is one of the main selling points. If they were going to release in Ireland and had a 3G phone ready they would have been better just waiting til it was ready.

Then again it's not like Ireland is going to have a huge effect on what Apple produce....

And yeah i'd assume it would have to go through FCC approval again, what with there being new parts and such

aidan_walsh

The whole event is being billed as a roadmap to the SDK, with an announcement on new Enterprise features. I know you guys are looking forward to new iPhone hardware, but lets face it thats (IMO) always going to be keynote material - hardly going to be announced at a townhall event like todays.

pandaboy

Call_me_al wrote: »

So anyone reckon we'll see any new products today or just the SDK. I reckon we'll get the 3G iPhone announcement with it being ready in a couple of week. then i'll really want one!!

Apple announcements are made on a Tuesday so today won't be the day for anything. SDK has just been announced so a 3G iPhone will not be on the cards for a while and well an announcement would be made for a keynote show by Apple.

3G technology will be very big for Apple so a whole new phone has to be designed as the current model is 2.5G. As they released the new firmware package in january it will probably be another few months before 3G comes on board.

With 3G the ability to use iChat will come on board as an official application. SDK will create a lot more applications so of course Apple will wait until developers have basically written tons of applications.

Chardee MacDennis

BanzaiBk wrote: »

Edit: Am I right in thinking that if they announce a 3G phone that they will have to put it through FCC approval so it'll take a few weeks to ship?

yes you are.

pandaboy wrote: »

Apple announcements are made on a Tuesday so today won't be the day for anything. SDK has just been announced so a 3G iPhone will not be on the cards for a while and well an announcement would be made for a keynote show by Apple.

your so wrong its not even funny, the event launching the SDK doesnt start for half an hour afaik, also there were no new product launches this tuesday for the first time for a long time, so it stands to reason that a new product may get launched today.

also on at&t's website there was a line saying a '3G or Standard iPhone compatible' according to the boys on MacBreak Weekly, so it is coming soon imo.

BanzaiBk

Call_me_al wrote: »

also on at&t's website there was a line saying a '3G or Standard iPhone compatible' according to the boys on MacBreak Weekly, so it is coming soon imo.

Literally just listening to it now:p

aidan_walsh

Probably got your own live blogs of choice, but Ars Technica and Macworld are on the case.

Oafley Jones

BanzaiBk wrote: »

Edit: Am I right in thinking that if they announce a 3G phone that they will have to put it through FCC approval so it'll take a few weeks to ship?

For all we know Apple could announce the 3G iPhone today (highly unlikely), the phone could be with the FCC for weeks. Phones only have to show up on the FCC site after their approval. FYI the current iphone took either 6 or 7 weeks to pass.

BanzaiBk

Yeah that's what I thought.

Steve Jobs wrote:

Been working really hard on this, really cool stuff to announce

babypink

finally proper 802.1x and WPA2 support, push email, exchange support, IPsec VPN support

SDK!!!

BanzaiBk

I'm glad to be proved wrong! The Ars feed is providing great info. Time for me to get an iPhone:)

aidan_walsh

SDK!!!

Working through XCode. Sweet.

babypink

check out Instuments.....thats awesome!

iPhone simulator....sweet.....!!

Basq

The SDK sounds like a programmers wet dream... now onto the IDE. Give us something niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

Creamy Goodness

babypink wrote: »

finally proper 802.1x and WPA2 support, push email, exchange support, IPsec VPN support

SDK!!!

probably the best we could of hoped for bar an actual 3G phone which we all knew wouldn't appear.

is this event being filmed?

babypink

Cremo wrote: »

probably the best we could of hoped for bar an actual 3G phone which we all knew wouldn't appear.

is this event being filmed?

its not over yet....and steve has to come back on....so who knows!!

3D OpenGL game running now......apparently its pretty good

EA doing a demo now..... iPhone version of Spore!!!! wow....looks good for something built in 2 weeks

Basq

Itching to get my hands on this SDK..

.. I assume it'll be available soon after the keynote.

aidan_walsh

basquille wrote: »

Itching to get my hands on this SDK..

.. I assume it'll be available soon after the keynote.

The yellow stickies have made it out of Apple Store as far as developer.apple.com/iphone anyway.

babypink

SEGA!!!!! SEGA SEGA.......(phyched or what)

Super Monkey Ball.......“This is not a cellphone game. This is a full console game. And we underestimated the power of the device. We had to fly in a developer to upscale the art for the iPhone.”

Steve's back.......looks like apps to be delivered through an app directly on the iphone.... AppStore

wireless downloads.......EDGE or WiFi......excellent, can also do through iTunes

swingking

ah feck you have to pay for apps

babypink

swingking wrote: »

ah feck you have to pay for apps

this is up to the developers.....they pick the price!

"No charge(to developers) for free apps" ......good move there!!!!

Firmware 2.0 coming in June so make this all available

ONE MORE THING....

Basq

Time to brush up on my Objective C..

:eek:

swingking

So no apps till June

Basq

On the up side, SDK will be available in an hour.

babypink

swingking wrote: »

So no apps till June

Deal! there's installer.app to tie you over

100 Million dollars in the iFund for iPhone developers. ...... holy crap!

Basq

babypink wrote: »

Deal! there's installer.app to tie you over

Yeah, and it'll give me plenty of time to hone my Objective C skills and develop some applications which will be ready by launch.

What's this about being able to test your apps only by joining the dev center at $99?

babypink

not too bad considering XCode is free with Leopard.......i suppose they have to mitigate the $100,000,000 hit somehow

babypink

"What does the 100m iFund do for the community?
Steve: This is going to help young developers with funding. It helps the whole iPhone ecosystem."

"Business apps are coming, should RIM be worried?
Steve: Go ask them."......rofl

Basq

babypink wrote: »

not too bad considering XCode is free with Leopard.......i suppose they have to mitigate the $100,000,000 hit somehow

Am after rolling back to Tiger..!

It's free on Tiger too but an older version. Can't see it anywhere.. but did they happen to say it's only compatible with XCode 3.0 (on Leopard)?

babypink

basquille wrote: »

Can't see it anywhere.. but did they happen to say it's only compatible with XCode 3.0 (on Leopard)?

yup.... 3.0 is leopard

Basq

babypink wrote: »

yup.... 3.0 is leopard

Woe is me!

aidan_walsh

"Nominal fee" for iPod Touch users. January Software Upgrade all over again.

Basq

Bit of a shame we can't develop using the SDK for free.

Irregardless of whether the app you develop is free of charge, you'll need to pay the $99 fee into the Dev Centre in order to distribute it. One time fee, but a free nonetheless.

cornbb

Remote debugging from Xcode sounds really cool. No virtual machine then. Designing a UI with Interface Builder for multitouch as well as using an accelerometer for input should be really interesting!

babypink

"What will happen if someone does a VOIP app?
A: We will only stop VOIP over cell networks, but not WiFi."

iSkype anyone??

Basq

Isn't there one or two "Skype-like" clients available already? But yeah, 'iSkype' would be cool.

Wizoom

I can't believe they're actually going to make iPod Touch owners shell out again... Come on Apple, apps are not an iPhone-only thing - most iTouch owners I know bought it with the future app potential in mind, but without needing a phone. Seems a little harsh to make us pay for this. The January upgrade kind of made sense because you were paying for iPhone apps, but this is being released the same time on both platforms!

babypink

as far as i'm aware this isn't Apple's doing, they are simply complying with the Sarbanes-Oxley requirements in the US

440Hz

Somedays im glad im a programmer!! lol

Basq

Looks like we're getting a Java SDK as well (http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/08/sun-prepping-java-for-iphone-your-craplet-investment-is-safe/).

As a Java developer primarily, this fills me with quite a bit of joy!

I could be wrong.. but didn't Steve say at one point that he excluded the Java Runtime Environment from the iPhone because it's a dead language for mobile devices? Obviously eating those words now!

aidan_walsh

Hardly, given that its Sun working on it through the SDK according to that article.

rom

No IB for now is annoying

Basq

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Hardly, given that its Sun working on it through the SDK according to that article.

An interview / FAQ on the iPhone with Jobs early last year printed in the NY Times.

Source

Markoff: “What about all those plugins that live within Safari now, like Flash or like Java or like JavaScript?”

Jobs: “Well, JavaScript’s built into the Phone. Sure.”

Markoff: “And what are you thinking about Flash and Java?”

Jobs: “Java’s not worth building in. Nobody uses Java anymore. It’s this big heavyweight ball and chain.”

Chardee MacDennis

doesnt seem the JAVA SDK will even work. . .

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/03/07/iphone-sdk-reactions-and-ongoing-questions/

aidan_walsh

basquille wrote: »

An interview / FAQ on the iPhone with Jobs early last year printed in the NY Times.

Source

Yeah, I know. But Jobs doesn't have to ship Java to everyone, and only the people who want Java can have it. Sun gets the customers they want, and Apple gets to stand by their own position. Win win, no words to be eaten.