G4

dartsfan

We've all heard of D4 but I've noticed lately G and 4 being put together to make up a new area called G4.
Where the hell is this supposed to be or does anyone actually refer to themselves as being "from" G4?

Buzz Buzz

I've heard that being used along time ago and recently too.. I believe its Salthill (Dr Mannix Rd, Threadneedle Rd those kinda area's) Taylor's Hill, and the Kingston Rd.. apparently because there's alot wealthy families around there i.e. some well known property developers etc..

mr biazzi

I would have thought G4 applied to da people, not the places,

tristanc

Maybe they're D4 girls going to college at NUIG.

Cole

I think it was Charlie McCreevy who famously stated that D4 (or G4) is not a place, but a state of mind.

Das Kitty

It's the accent and the attitude, less of the area. Think of the kind of person who pronounces Barna as Borna.

Most D4 people aren't from Dublin 4 either.

dafunk

The term G4 immediately made me think of, what I would refer to as a Max Factor Lady. Those horrible f@@kwit a$$hole$ that drive around the tiny roads of Taylors Hill, Borna and Knocknocoorra and the like in their 75 K 12 seater SUVs with their 600 euro (still bad) blonde dye jobs, one nasty kid in the back and a pair of poncy sunglasses, ramming everyone else off the road.

D4 is like that aswell

galvianlord

I remember Galway First had a shortlived article in ross o'carroll-kelly style on the adventures of a guy from G4.

Rather than definining the area as older established areas such as Taylors Hill and the like, it defined G4 as being a wide arc around Galway city, in the new developments and stand-alone South Forks around Barna, Moycullen, Oranmore-Maree, Clarinbridge etc

The drivel wasnt continued long and was pretty painful to read, but that was the definition from a paper that epitomises the G4 spirit of Galway.

JohnCleary

Why do people think nothing but snobs live on Taylor's Hill?

Das Kitty

Let's face it, you have to be pretty well off to afford a house there!

That doesn't make you snobby though. I think G4s are more of a Knocknacorra phenomenon to be honest.

cornbb

dafunk wrote: »

The term G4 immediately made me think of, what I would refer to as a Max Factor Lady. Those horrible f@@kwit a$$hole$ that drive around the tiny roads of Taylors Hill, Borna and Knocknocoorra and the like in their 75 K 12 seater SUVs with their 600 euro (still bad) blonde dye jobs, one nasty kid in the back and a pair of poncy sunglasses, ramming everyone else off the road.

D4 is like that aswell

I encountered a woman like that once on the backroads of Connemara, she almost rammed me off the road. I could tell she was from Dublin though

JohnCleary wrote: »

Why do people think nothing but snobs live on Taylor's Hill?

Zactly! Poor people live in that area too As someone else pointed out the D4/G4 thing is a state of mind, not a geographical area.

DRakE

mr biazzi wrote: »

I would have thought G4 applied to da people, not the places,

Just cant get over why you said "da people" yet you said "the places".

:boggle:

5times

DRakE wrote: »

Just cant get over why you said "da people" yet you said "the places".

:boggle:

It's a G4 way of being hip and street

stevecrow74

JohnCleary wrote: »

Why do people think nothing but snobs live on Taylor's Hill?

hey.. i live on Taylors hill... :eek::eek:

well someone has to bring the place down a notch or two :D:D

DouglasWinthrow

dartsfan wrote: »

We've all heard of D4 but I've noticed lately G and 4 being put together to make up a new area called G4.
Where the hell is this supposed to be or does anyone actually refer to themselves as being "from" G4?

I think its more a state of mind. nobody would say they're "from" G4 , but there is still certainly the sterotype.

The affluent generally tend to confrom to a sterotype like any other group, and yeah , G4 is as good a name for them as any .

They exist in Galway , they exist in Dublin , they're just slightly obnoxious , middle/upper middle class people who are usually first generation "money".

Nothing wrong with them as such, but yes , there definitely is a G4 , but its a group of people. If you had to locate it... I'd say Barna and Taylors Hill.

Fobia

As far as I know G4 is meant to be the Taylors hill/Salthill area, nothing to do with mindsets or stereotypes or anything. Just a nickname given to the area as it's known for being well off. I'm not sure why it was picked as certain areas of Bushy park/Daingean are much more wealthy but sura, I didn't come up with it

biko

Mill street is G-force area

MargeS

Das Kitty wrote: »

I think G4s are more of a Knocknacorra phenomenon to be honest.

I don't think you can call Knocknacarra a snobby area any more. It's over developed and lost it's 'Salthill' snobby status. It's just Knocknatallagh now!

Sherifu

Knocknacarra is the new Tallaght

padi89

I haven't heard G4 before.The few times i have heard Salthill and posh in the same sentence have been from chavs that never leave their estates and rednecks that have just moved to the city.I went to primary and secondary school in Salthill and to be perfectly honest there was only one guy i knew of from a well of family and he was from Newcastle.
I wouldn't consider anyone that is a native of Salthill/Barna or the surrounding areas to be in anyway snobish, you must remember that housing prices in those areas were not always expensive.However many of the newer familys that have moved to these areas believe that because they paid a crazy amount of money for their property that they are superior in some sort of way:rolleyes:Their teen kids usually speak with a californian accent from watching too much mtv.
Its the mindset NOT the area.

Das Kitty

MargeS wrote: »

I don't think you can call Knocknacarra a snobby area any more. It's over developed and lost it's 'Salthill' snobby status. It's just Knocknatallagh now!

There are areas though you must admit, south of the Clybaun is still a bit like that.

MargeS

Das Kitty wrote: »

There are areas though you must admit, south of the Clybaun is still a bit like that.

yeah, but they still get to finish their address with Knocknacarra, Galway.

I remember when Knocknacarra was an upmarket area, but these days it's just another suburb.

padi89

MargeS wrote: »

I remember when Knocknacarra was an upmarket area, but these days it's just another suburb.

When was that? From what i remember it was always a middle class area?

JohnCleary

stevecrow74 wrote: »

hey.. i live on Taylors hill... :eek::eek:

well someone has to bring the place down a notch or two :D:D

My point is that people consider Taylor's Hill posh/rich

What about the people who've been living there for 25years who bought a house there when it would have been the same price as anywhere else in Galway. Granted they're sitting on a goldmine right now though

I love where I live, so central but not busy. It would be a crame for me to get a taxi to town/Salthill. No matter what direction I look everywhere is just walking distance, sweet

Das Kitty

Before the 80 estates called "Cnoc na..." "Slí na" were built. Before Joyces and the Clybaun and the town growing out to meet it. It was kinda like Barna is now, a suburb but still countryside.

Das Kitty

MargeS wrote: »

yeah, but they still get to finish their address with Knocknacarra, Galway.

I believe they write Cnoc na Cathrach instead!

Well I can't comment, I used to put Radharc na Mara instead of Mervue on job applications when I was living at home:D

padi89

Das Kitty wrote: »

Before the 80 estates called "Cnoc na..." "Slí na" were built. Before Joyces and the Clybaun and the town growing out to meet it. It was kinda like Barna is now, a suburb but still countryside.

Where are you getting "upmarket area" from i really do not know? Before any of those estates went up it was bog, poor rocky land that could barely be farmed.Clybaun Road,Ballymoneen road were nothing but country boureens with the odd small bungalow here and there.I know people that owned land in these areas that sold it for a song because it wasn't worth much then.The area was "never upmarket".

Das Kitty

Near the Barna road??

It's still really expensive down there. A 4 bed semi in an estate there went for fecking 750K just before Christmas and it doesn't even have a bay view.

padi89

Das Kitty wrote: »

Near the Barna road??

It's still really expensive down there. A 4 bed semi in an estate there went for fecking 750K just before Christmas and it doesn't even have a bay view.

Demand has put that premium on the houses, if people want to pay it thats their own business, its a nice earner for the original owner.I can tell you that the first buyers of houses in some of the first estates that went up Clybaun,Seacrest paid 4-5 times less than what they go for now.Its the same in any area in Galway prices are sky high everywhere.

Bass Cadet

Das Kitty wrote: »

Let's face it, you have to be pretty well off to afford a house there!

That doesn't make you snobby though. I think G4s are more of a Knocknacorra phenomenon to be honest.

Pah, Taylor's Hill is only a stones throw from Shamtalla

Das Kitty

Oh yeah, like most places they're still worth much more than their initial price. The estates between the Clybaun and Joyces and the one's at the bottom of the Cappagh Road were the first ones there and even at that time they were comparatively expensive. There was a caché to the Knocknacarra name up until about 15 years ago when they started building estate after estate all the way up those hills. One of my Mam's friend's is rightly peeved with all the development complaining about how her property is being devauled.

Sure jeepers, even Doughuisce used to have a bit of a ring to it. Times change. Now, if only Mervue could become "the" place to live in Galway. We'll have to knock "the shops" for a start.

Toto Wolfcastle

JohnCleary wrote: »

Why do people think nothing but snobs live on Taylor's Hill?

My aunt is a snob and she lives on Taylor's Hill. So there's one for you!

I live in Glen Dara (although my address is conveniently not Glen Dara!) and i am considering becoming a snob/G4 (can I be G4 if I'm from Cork? I think C4 is a car so that wont work!) just to go against the stereotype/grain.

snubbleste

janeybabe wrote: »

I live in Glen Dara (although my address is conveniently not Glen Dara!) and i am considering becoming a snob/G4 (can I be G4 if I'm from Cork?

Dahling, you live in Rahoon.

galwayrush

Taylor's Hill is in the same Parish as Rahoon.:D

5times

padi89 wrote: »

Where are you getting "upmarket area" from i really do not know? Before any of those estates went up it was bog, poor rocky land that could barely be farmed.Clybaun Road,Ballymoneen road were nothing but country boureens with the odd small bungalow here and there.I know people that owned land in these areas that sold it for a song because it wasn't worth much then.The area was "never upmarket".

Befroe all the development happened in the farming areas, the area that was then Knocknacarra was upmarket. It was bloody expensive to buy out there along the Barna Rd and that area. That's fact!

janeybabe wrote: »

My aunt is a snob and she lives on Taylor's Hill. So there's one for you!

I live in Glen Dara (although my address is conveniently not Glen Dara!) and i am considering becoming a snob/G4 (can I be G4 if I'm from Cork? I think C4 is a car so that wont work!) just to go against the stereotype/grain.

C4 is explosive. Might be safer not to use that term.

Toto Wolfcastle

snubbleste wrote: »

Dahling, you live in Rahoon.

You know what? Means nothing to me! I know I live in Rahoon but what does that mean? Good area? Bad area? Good area with little bit of bad (Glen Dara) area in it?

5times

janeybabe wrote: »

You know what? Means nothing to me! I know I live in Rahoon but what does that mean? Good area? Bad area? Good area with little bit of bad (Glen Dara) area in it?

Why is Glen Dara bad these days?

Toto Wolfcastle

5times wrote: »

Why is Glen Dara bad these days?

Aha, see I've never believed it was bad, but I've been told by practically everyone that it is. I just presumed that because I'm at the very front of the estate that I miss out on all the badness!

Apart from 7 years old knocking on my window and offering me sex it's not bad at all!

galwayrush

Every street, village has a few trumped up snobs , they even develop the Rachel Allen accent:D

Robbo

galwayrush wrote: »

Taylor's Hill is in the same Parish as Rahoon.:D

Where I used to live on Taylor's Hill was part of St Joseph's and the other side of the road were part of Salthill.

In summation, the territorial vagaries of the Catholic church are no basis for a hypothesis.

Toto Wolfcastle

Robbo wrote: »

Where I used to live on Taylor's Hill was part of St Joseph's and the other side of the road were part of Salthill.

In summation, the territorial vagaries of the Catholic church are no basis for a hypothesis.

Exactly. We moved 2 minutes down the road from our old house and suddenly my mum wasn't allowed on the parish council or whatever it's called because we were in a different parish! (Same area though, same town!)

Taylor's Hill is huge.

padi89

padi89 wrote: »

I haven't heard G4 before.The few times i have heard Salthill and posh in the same sentence have been from chavs that never leave their estates and rednecks that have just moved to the city.I went to primary and secondary school in Salthill and to be perfectly honest there was only one guy i knew of from a well of family and he was from Newcastle.
I wouldn't consider anyone that is a native of Salthill/Barna or the surrounding areas to be in anyway snobish, you must remember that housing prices in those areas were not always expensive.However many of the newer familys that have moved to these areas believe that because they paid a crazy amount of money for their property that they are superior in some sort of way:rolleyes:Their teen kids usually speak with a californian accent from watching too much mtv.
Its the mindset NOT the area.

Thats completely true. I lived in Barna for 14 years; when I first moved there all there was was Clarkes shop, Joyces, Donnellys and the 12 Pins. Anytime I go back there, the locals that were there when I was haven't changed, but the rest of Barna has.

Actually, it was pretty strange. Myself and my mother started walking through the estates and we'd stop every so often and think, "wait, this used to be a field where we played".

I would consider G4 to be Taylors Hill/parts of Barna - "millionaires lane". I wouldn't consider Salthill to be "posh" in the slightest.

stevecrow74

janeybabe wrote: »

You know what? Means nothing to me! I know I live in Rahoon but what does that mean? Good area? Bad area? Good area with little bit of bad (Glen Dara) area in it?

the Rahoon flats were probably before your time of living in Galway... if Taylors hill is G4 then the Rahoon flats would have been 'Ballymun'..

used to live in Rockfield park when the flats were there.. some scary experiences walking past them late at night :eek::eek:

5times

Deleted User wrote: »

Thats completely true. I lived in Barna for 14 years; when I first moved there all there was was Clarkes shop, Joyces, Donnellys and the 12 Pins. Anytime I go back there, the locals that were there when I was haven't changed, but the rest of Barna has.

Actually, it was pretty strange. Myself and my mother started walking through the estates and we'd stop every so often and think, "wait, this used to be a field where we played".

I would consider G4 to be Taylors Hill/parts of Barna - "millionaires lane". I wouldn't consider Salthill to be "posh" in the slightest.

I'll tell you something lad, having grown up in Westside in the 70's and 80's, Salthill is a "posh" area.

padi89

5times wrote: »

I'll tell you something lad, having grown up in Westside in the 70's and 80's, Salthill is a "posh" area.

Nah, it would have been said more "pash lyke".:D

Toto Wolfcastle

stevecrow74 wrote: »

the Rahoon flats were probably before your time of living in Galway... if Taylors hill is G4 then the Rahoon flats would have been 'Ballymun'..

used to live in Rockfield park when the flats were there.. some scary experiences walking past them late at night :eek::eek:

Ya I've see photos of the flats and heard stories but the way the place is now I feel perfectly safe.