NCHD Salaries

ucd_guy

I always knew that NCHD's did well but for some reason I thought that the jumps in pay between intern-SHO-reg-SpR wasn't that much, 5k or so.

I heard today that a Dublin SpR with a one-in-fourteen call rota (not what I'd consider excessive by any means) earned about €140,000 last year! That's a good €40,000 more than what I thought they'd make...

I know it's all public but call affects your wages way more than you'd think. Is this kinda call burden normal? Is this kind of wage normal? And are they allowed supplement it with private work?

ergo

These are the current salary scales for NCHD's:


Intern €34,668.00
SHO
1 €40,173.00
2 €42,450.00
3 €45,853.00
4 €48,079.00
Registrar/SHO
1/5 €52,555.00
2/6 €54,779.00
3/7 €56,950.00
4 €58,547.00
5 €60,677.00
6 €62,814.00
Senior Registrar
1 €68,131.00
2 €70,344.00
3 €72,563.00
4 €74,928.00
5 €77,658.00
6 €80,501.00
7 €83,434.00
Premium Payments*
Scale Point Annual Basic Salary
SpR
1 €62,918.00
2 €64,449.00
3 €66,661.00
4 €69,745.00
5 €73,079.00
6 €76,417.00
7 €79,753.00

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I can't see how an SpR could be earning that much on a 1 in 14 rota unless they are in the hospital 7am to 7pm every weekday maybe in a very busy service

although if for example a 7th year SpR works an extra 30 hours a month (in the form of 2 calls) at time and a half that's an extra €20,000 a year bringing them up to 100K, not sure if they could make up the extra 40K with simply staying late/coming in early

that call rota is probably as generous as it gets to be honest, depending on the size of the hospital and the number of doctors in the service call rotas vary between 1 in 3 and 1 in 15 or more sometimes, for SpR's call rotas are usually less frequent than SHO's I'd say

I know the pay goes up nicely but I always thought €34,000 intern starting salary after 6 years in college is a bit ridiculous (yes, I know I know, with overtime the total salary goes up nicely but still......just thought I'd say it)

Traumadoc

Are you sure it was not a 1 in 4 rota, my wife was doing about a 1 in 6 and she was earning nowhere near 140k.

Chunky Monkey

ergo wrote: »

I know the pay goes up nicely but I always thought €34,000 intern starting salary after 6 years in college is a bit ridiculous (yes, I know I know, with overtime the total salary goes up nicely but still......just thought I'd say it)

Do you mean too little or too much? €34 grand as basic pay just after graduating seems quite nice.

ergo

Chunky Monkey wrote: »

Do you mean too little or too much? €34 grand as basic pay just after graduating seems quite nice.

I meant too little. After 6 years of a tough degree which is also very difficult to get into.

BUT, I do acknowledge the definite and guaranteed pathway over time for increasing the salary, unlike many other careers.

I suppose what I'm really saying is that the trade off in terms of loss of free time/quality years of your life while working the long shifts that push the 34K up to 50K (from working 60+ hours a week as an intern and subsequently SHO etc) might be a bit much. And so on for the subsequent junior doctor years.

Spipov

hi, could you tell me what the overtime for an SHO1 is at the moment?i cant access the IMO website at the moment,cant remember the login. thanks

JuliusCaesar

Chunky Monkey wrote: »

Do you mean too little or too much? €34 grand as basic pay just after graduating seems quite nice.

You should see what Clinical Psychologists get! (over on Psychology...)

hjam

can some one guide me , i am a 4th year nchd and just found that i hadnt been paid my 3rd year pay scale at my last hospital where i worked for 18 months.
they have just paid me my arrears and they have amounted to less than 4000 euros.
can someone tell me is that the difference in payscale of one year between a 2 and 3 scale sho considering the oncalls done in one year:)

ergo

hjam wrote: »

can some one guide me , i am a 4th year nchd and just found that i hadnt been paid my 3rd year pay scale at my last hospital where i worked for 18 months.
they have just paid me my arrears and they have amounted to less than 4000 euros.
can someone tell me is that the difference in payscale of one year between a 2 and 3 scale sho considering the oncalls done in one year:)

these are the current pay scales: (I've just put up annual basic salary and Sunday double time)

Intern €35,535.00 €34.92
SHO 1 €41,177.00 €40.47
2 €43,511.00 €42.76
3 €46,999.00 €46.19
4 €49,281.00 €48.43


so you can work out what they have paid you from that. You were a 2nd year SHO and they were paying you as a 1st year SHO?

I think you'd need to look at each month and the number of hours you worked and (using half of the Sunday double time listed above to get your hourly rate) work out how short you are. Maybe €4,000 is about right - I'm not sure. Or you'd probably have to use last year's pay scales at the top of the thread.

hjam

Thank you for the quick reply,

well i was being paid as 2nd year because that is when i joined and i was never upgraded to 3rd and i only found out at the beginning of 4th year so there is whole year of pay scale with calls

i am still at odds

Traumadoc

4000 after tax would seem about right if it is after tax. Especially as you consider they will apply the income levy and increased pension contributions. You should contact HR and ask were the levies applied.

Godge

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

You should see what Clinical Psychologists get! (over on Psychology...)

agreed. it is unbelievable