Patch Panel

HighlyCooL

im looking for a patch panel for coxal. bnc panel is what i was told would work well. but i cant find any any where. does any one know where i would get one or will i be making one?

ethernet

BNC, as in the interface that preceded ethernet? I wouldn't rely on a network infrastructure for distributing your TV. Best use a distribution amplifier instead.

HighlyCooL

well i have coxal in every room (7) i have cable coming in for ntl, and i have 4 cables from then lmb on my sat. i want to be able to patch the satalite to any room i want. and beable to patch the cable to the other rooms i have a spliter. the only way i could think of doing this is a patch pannel and i was told its easyer to use BNC conecters, and its posible to get BNC patch pannels.

Tony

A multi switch compatible with a standard quad lnb would be a far better way to go, a patch panel is really for data connections and I doubt it will work well for you.

HighlyCooL wrote: »

well i have coxal in every room (7) i have cable coming in for ntl, and i have 4 cables from then lmb on my sat. i want to be able to patch the satalite to any room i want. and beable to patch the cable to the other rooms i have a spliter. the only way i could think of doing this is a patch pannel and i was told its easyer to use BNC conecters, and its posible to get BNC patch pannels.

steveon

There is a patch panel available to do what you want but I agree with Tony's suggestion as they are extremely expensive in my opinion. I installed one once with 88 outgoing connections took me forever to put into place but the quality was second to none...but wouldn't even contemplate its cost to buy...

mossym

ethernet wrote: »

BNC, as in the interface that preceded ethernet? I wouldn't rely on a network infrastructure for distributing your TV. Best use a distribution amplifier instead.

bmc is used for alot mroethan that, it's a common interface for shielded cables. used by many data/clock generatos well up into the ghz range, it's easily as robust as normal satellite connectors. the fact thtt it may have been used for network is only coincidence

Rippy

If you really want to do this ,rather than a distribution system using a multiswitch, it would be realitivly simple to make one by drilling a board and screwing f conn. joiners (back to back) into it.
I only use BNC for CCTV applications. Standard BNC connectors are sized to crimp onto RG59 cable, not CT100 satellite cable.
CT100 is what you should have NOT RG59 (unless you are getting Staker to wire your house!)
You can get BNC to F adapters but that would be a total waste of money.

ShaneOC

Tony wrote: »

A multi switch compatible with a standard quad lnb would be a far better way to go, a patch panel is really for data connections and I doubt it will work well for you.

So this would work with an existing quad LNB as supplied by Sky?

Any ideas on where these can be got and cost?

zilog_jones

Rippy wrote: »

Standard BNC connectors are sized to crimp onto RG59 cable, not CT100 satellite cable.

What he said. BNC connectors are typically only designed for RG59 or RG58 (50 Ohm stuff used for old 10BASE2 networks). I'm sure there's stuff designed for RG-6 but I don't know how thick that is compared to CT100

Tony

ShaneOC wrote: »

So this would work with an existing quad LNB as supplied by Sky?

Any ideas on where these can be got and cost?

Yes it would work, I think Byte or Watty had a link to them. I do not use them myself as most multiswitches use quattro rather than quad lnb's. You should also be able to feed in vhf/uhf

byte

Tony wrote: »

Yes it would work, I think Byte or Watty had a link to them. I do not use them myself as most multiswitches use quattro rather than quad lnb's. You should also be able to feed in vhf/uhf

http://www.emp-centauri.cz/products.php?menuId=3&nazev=S.143-AP

As with many multiswitches, if you intend putting VHF/UHF through this, you'll probably need a pre-amp, as for example, the EMP linked above has an insertion loss of 17dB (maybe more considering the diplexer to seperate the sat and terrestrial again, I'd say additional loss of 3-5dB).

Tony

I thought so too but using the titanium switch I actually got 70 dbuv out for 65 dbuv in? 20m ct100 from 12 elem group A ant

byte wrote: »

http://www.emp-centauri.cz/products.php?menuId=3&nazev=S.143-AP

As with many multiswitches, if you intend putting VHF/UHF through this, you'll probably need a pre-amp,

byte

Ah, OK. I've mainly used Alcad switches in the past (RIP V. McGrath) and they always needed an extra bit of "juice"

HighlyCooL

Tony wrote: »

A multi switch compatible with a standard quad lnb would be a far better way to go, a patch panel is really for data connections and I doubt it will work well for you.

well how much we talking for a multi switch.

Rippy, i was thinking that as a last resort. but i am hoping to work some thing out before i try that. BTW the house is wired in RG-6

mossym, thats what i was told that even tho its used for old net works, the fact that it works on coxal it should work.......in theory!!

mossym

in theory? mate, have a look at high end oscilloscopes, or signal generators. bandwidth up into the ghz range, the generator beside me goes up to 2.25ghz.

and the connectors on the front? BNC. no theory required.

And i wasn't really advocating using bnc, as pointed out crimping bnc onto ct100 might be a bit difficult:D, just one psoter made it sound like bnc connectors were an outdated connection.

Tony

HighlyCooL wrote: »

BTW the house is wired in RG-6

Let me guess, you got an electrician to wire it ?:)

mossym

Tony wrote: »

Let me guess, you got an electrician to wire it ?:)

i gave my sparky a roll of ct100 when he came first to wire the house and told him to use that. came back few days later to find he had still used his own stuff.

needless to say, he ended up replacing a lot of cable

HighlyCooL

mossym, right so im going to go with bnc, but were will i get a bnc patch panel.

Tony, no i wired it my self. is there really a huge difference in RG6 and CT100

mossym

HighlyCooL wrote: »

mossym, right so im going to go with bnc, but were will i get a bnc patch panel.

Tony, no i wired it my self. is there really a huge difference in RG6 and CT100

not exactly what i was saying. i was only sayng bnc connectors could be used for a lot more than old networks. you may have some trouble getting a bnd connector onto satellite cable.

Lykke

HighlyCooL wrote: »

im looking for a patch panel for coxal. bnc panel is what i was told would work well. but i cant find any any where. does any one know where i would get one or will i be making one?

Try this link http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/bnc_panels.htm

They appear to have the panels and connectors you are looking for

I particularly like the blank panel that you can mix and match different types of connectors

Hope this helps

Tony

HighlyCooL wrote: »

Tony, no i wired it my self. is there really a huge difference in RG6 and CT100

Well basically there are two main advantages of ct100 type cable.

1. Lower signal loss which comes into play over longer distances and

2. Immunity from interference from cell phone sites , dect phones etc.

In most cases you will get away with RG6 but really for the small difference in price why take the chance. The CAI a Uk based trade association specify Ct100 type cable for all their members

Zaphod

HighlyCooL wrote: »

mossym, right so im going to go with bnc, but were will i get a bnc patch panel.

What exactly are you trying to do? Do you want to be able to use a satellite receiver in each of the 7 rooms? If so, then a BNC panel, or any other panel will not work.

Or if you only wish to distribute the RF signal to each room, you'll need a distribution amplifier. And the most of those use f-connectors.