Sad State of Affairs

Papad

So there I was standing in a queue at the Post Office.
And the two middle aged women behind me were discussing the case of the 2 “murdered” polish lads in Dublin. (I’m fed up being told by the media that they were killed as if they were in a car accident …………… irrespective of due process, they were murdered by someone).

Anyway the women decided that the perpetrators should not go to jail because “they don’t have the services up there”.

Help me understand this comment. And is it a reflection of the country as a whole? (i.e. excuses for wrong doing).

Collie D

Papad wrote: »

So there I was standing in a queue at the Post Office.
And the two middle aged women behind me were discussing the case of the 2 “murdered” polish lads in Dublin. (I’m fed up being told by the media that they were killed as if they were in a car accident …………… irrespective of due process, they were murdered by someone).

Anyway the women decided that the perpetrators should not go to jail because “they don’t have the services up there”.

Help me understand this comment. And is it a reflection of the country as a whole? (i.e. excuses for wrong doing).

Sound like middle class do-gooders living in ivory towers. You should have shanked the bitches

Rob_l

Papad wrote: »

So there I was standing in a queue at the Post Office.
And the two middle aged women behind me were discussing the case of the 2 “murdered” polish lads in Dublin. (I’m fed up being told by the media that they were killed as if they were in a car accident …………… irrespective of due process, they were murdered by someone).

Anyway the women decided that the perpetrators should not go to jail because “they don’t have the services up there”.

Help me understand this comment. And is it a reflection of the country as a whole? (i.e. excuses for wrong doing).

Rob says huH?

watna

I don't get it. Services up where?

Collie D

Rob_l wrote: »

Rob says huH?

He wants to know were the two old bats off their rockers or are there more people out there willing to say that these little scumbags don't deserve priosn. Just say the two old bats were off their rockers.

Robbo

watna wrote: »

I don't get it. Services up where?

Mass? Bin collection services?

These AH threads on Law'n'Order become less coherent with each itteration and more like an episode of Liveline re-enacted by drunken rhesus monkeys.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I'm about as liberal as you get, and I hope they get life (meaning life)

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Robbo wrote: »

These AH threads on Law'n'Order become less coherent with each itteration and more like an episode of Liveline re-enacted by drunken rhesus monkeys.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

watna

Robbo wrote: »

Mass? Bin collection services?

These AH threads on Law'n'Order become less coherent with each itteration and more like an episode of Liveline re-enacted by drunken rhesus monkeys.

Yeah, this is what I thought. They can't go to prison because there isn't enough buses or shops or something up in some disclosed location?

Did they mean there is not enough prison services in the North of Dublin?

Collie D

watna wrote: »

Yeah, this is what I thought. They can't go to prison because there isn't enough buses or shops or something up in some disclosed location?

Did they mean there is not enough prison services in the North of Dublin?

Why do you assume Drimnagh is in north Dublin? Who knows what the two old bitches were talking about

watna

Collie D wrote: »

Why do you assume Drimnagh is in north Dublin? Who knows what the two old bitches were talking about

I didn't presume it was. I thought it was, until I just looked it up and realised it's not. I don't know that area of the city very well (i.e. at all)

Collie D

watna wrote: »

I didn't presume it was. I thought it was, until I just looked it up and realised it's not. I don't know that area of the city very well (i.e. at all)

Just making sure you're not falling into the cliché of all crime being north of the river.

watna

Collie D wrote: »

Just making sure you're not falling into the cliché of all crime being north of the river.

No, I'm well aware it's citywide. I grew up in Shankill!

Pherekydes

watna wrote: »

I didn't presume it was. I thought it was, until I just looked it up and realised it's not. I don't know that area of the city very well (i.e. at all)

Hey, you just jumped to the conclusion that Dublin murders happen on the Northside. Understandable. :rolleyes:

Collie D

watna wrote: »

No, I'm well aware it's citywide. I grew up in Shankill!

Case closed

Pherekydes

watna wrote: »

No, I'm well aware it's citywide. I grew up in Shankill!

Hey, just had a thought (Another one so soon):

Maybe the old dears were from Shankhill? Maybe they thought Drimnagh was on the Northside, too.

Maybe all people from Shankhill (Shankillers?) are this ignorant about their own city?

Hey, it's just a thought.

watna

Slow coach wrote: »

Hey, just had a thought (Another one so soon):

Maybe the old dears were from Shankhill? Maybe they thought Drimnagh was on the Northside, too.

Maybe all people from Shankhill (Shankillers?) are this ignorant about their own city?

Hey, it's just a thought.

It's possible.

You spelled Shankill wrong a fair few times btw.

Collie D

watna wrote: »

You spelled Shankill wrong a fair few times btw.

Touché

monkeyfudge

Robbo wrote: »

These AH threads on Law'n'Order become less coherent with each itteration and more like an episode of Liveline re-enacted by drunken rhesus monkeys.

I think you're doing rhesus monkeys a great disservice with that statement.

calahans

maybe she meant that if the perpetrators were not adults they should not go to an adult prison? just a guess...

Rb

OP, no it's not a reflection of the country, the overwhelming majority of people would like to see these (and all other serious criminals) rot, regardless of where they were brought up, who they were brought up by, the education they received etc.

Pherekydes

Collie D wrote: »

Touché

I'm supposed to write that.

Touché. My bad. I thought it was Shankhill. But I should be excused on the grounds that:

• I'm a Dub
• I'm a Northsider
• Bad spelling/ignorance is de rigueur these days

Collie D

Slow coach wrote: »

I'm supposed to write that.

Ok then. OWNED! How's that?

Slow coach wrote: »

[*]Bad spelling/ignorance is de rigueur these days
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You spelled de rigeur wrong too.

Papad

rb_ie wrote: »

OP, no it's not a reflection of the country, the overwhelming majority of people would like to see these (and all other serious criminals) rot, regardless of where they were brought up, who they were brought up by, the education they received etc.

That is what I believed too until I heard these 2 middle-aged, middle-class ladies talking about it today.
I was just bewildered with their conclusion.

This is the not the first time that I heard similar sentiment regarding crime and adequate punishment. (“Yeah, I know he was carrying a concealed bazooka but he’s from Southhill and they don’t have Olympic-sized swimming pools there”)

Services: youth clubs, sporting clubs, young people’s disco’s, etc.

Pherekydes

Collie D wrote: »

Ok then. OWNED! How's that?

That's better.

You spelled de rigeur wrong too.

Get a new dictionary.

Collie D

Slow coach wrote: »

That's better.



Get a new dictionary.

I've just checked, both are acceptable apparently

Pherekydes

Collie D wrote: »

I've just checked, both are acceptable apparently

Climbdown.

Sh1t, this has gone way off topic.

Back to the poor youth of today, who've nothing to do except stab people with screwdrivers. Get them a swimming pool or a youth club.

Wait a sec, weren't Kevin Moran and Eamon Coghlan from Drimnagh?