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Won A Ticket... But Don't Play

  • 03-03-2008 3:13pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭


    This is a Hypothetical Case


    You win a ticket for an event.

    You still have to pay a registration fee when you register for the tournament.

    If you never register for the tournament ( For whatever Reason ) what happens to the money associated with your ticket.

    It WON'T be in the prizefund as you never registered.

    You often see panic selling of tickets before events.

    Poker Events and The Macau are two that spring straight to mind where you can buy tickets for anything upwards of 50% of face value, but surely if you approach the organizer just as late registration is closed surely he is honour bound to refund you your money as it is in his pocket and not the prizefund


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭kakak1


    HUSH HUSH wrote: »
    This is a Hypothetical Case


    You win a ticket for an event.

    You still have to pay a registration fee when you register for the tournament.

    If you never register for the tournament ( For whatever Reason ) what happens to the money associated with your ticket.

    It WON'T be in the prizefund as you never registered.

    You often see panic selling of tickets before events.

    Poker Events and The Macau are two that spring straight to mind where you can buy tickets for anything upwards of 50% of face value, but surely if you approach the organizer just as late registration is closed surely he is honour bound to refund you your money as it is in his pocket and not the prizefund


    here we go again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 900 ✭✭✭CaptainNemo


    Lissen here, I got proof 'a the mayor, no less, with his pants down and in whatcha might call a compromisin' position with an out-of-work actor, ya know the deal. Whaddaya say ya slip me ten bucks and I give ya the low down. It's a dirty job but I love it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Conbro


    Same ****. Different day. Im sure DITPOKER can explain it all to you. He revels in this sort of stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭HUSH HUSH


    kakak1 wrote: »
    here we go again

    Don't you understand the meaning of the word hypothetical?

    I'm interested to find out peoples views on the whole ticket situation.

    I think it's quite a valid point as alot of tickets ( I'd imagine ) don't get used for events and the prizepool is only made up of registered entrants not tickets sold.

    So if you've nothing to add please keep your lame "here we go again" (whatever that's supposed to mean ) comments to yourself...:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    Conbro wrote: »
    Same ****. Different day. Im sure DITPOKER can explain it all to you. He revels in this sort of stuff.

    i'd hardly say revel in it...

    god forbid i express an opinion regarding how poker tournaments are run and their effect on players/customers. i figure my contribution adds value unlike your awe inspiring comment above... at least my stuff is marginally interesting to read.

    HUSH HUSH, i started a thread recently complaining about tourny organisers who add tickets from the prizepool (that include a reg fee) as part of the prize, basically forcing winning players to play the tournament and the organiser can automatically guarantee payment for themselves. i.e. a tourney organiser awards 5 tickets of €150+€15 to a different tournament, they are guaranteeing that they will recieve €75 in reg at the tournament by taking it out of prizepool of the original tournament. I called it double registration.

    I'm not allowed to discuss things related to PE as i have a history with them. Good luck with this HUSH HUSH but sadly you;re fighting a losing battle.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    In my opinion, if a ticket to something is given out as part of, or all of a prize, then that money should be in the prizepool for the bigger tournie as well unless it can be used as general credit. If you can't play it then make an alternative arrangement to either sell it or agree something with the tournie organisers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭kakak1


    HUSH HUSH wrote: »
    Don't you understand the meaning of the word hypothetical?


    I do but you don't appear to seeing as you mention two poker related names. Why not for hypothetical reasons call them say A & B.

    But sure if you did that you wouldn't get your little dig in at we all know who :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    5starpool wrote: »
    In my opinion, if a ticket to something is given out as part of, or all of a prize, then that money should be in the prizepool for the bigger tournie as well unless it can be used as general credit. If you can't play it then make an alternative arrangement to either sell it or agree something with the tournie organisers.

    this is my concern dom, why should the player have to worry. the prizepool should be the PRIZEPOOL, not the "cash and some tickets and some reg fee" pool. why should the player have to sell the ticket or try and negotiate with the organiser.

    for the record once it is advertised before hand i have no real issues, buyer beware and all that, its just the increasingly common practice of what is a standard freezeout also having a ticket here or a voucher there... etc.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I think the only real alternative to this is to ask before you reg whether any money is taken for tickets etc.

    I mostly agree with your point however, but since I play in a very small number of places it affects me less. If I win something that includes a ticket to the Fitz EOM for example it's fine cause I will amlost certainly play it anyhow, or else will have no bother getting the credit moved to another time etc, but it doesn become more pressing for more casual players I will admit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭HUSH HUSH


    kakak1 wrote: »
    I do but you don't appear to seeing as you mention two poker related names. Why not for hypothetical reasons call them say A & B.

    But sure if you did that you wouldn't get your little dig in at we all know who :p

    Is you're sole purpose to troll?

    I said it was hypothetical in that I'm not trying to make a case for claiming a refund and the two examples I used rely heavily on tickets handed out in advance for events they run.

    I don't see how I'm having a dig at anyone.

    Could you please elaborate on what you are trying to say or just stop making these pedantic worthless troll like posts

    Thanking you in advance;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    kakak1 wrote: »
    here we go again
    kakak1 wrote: »
    I do but you don't appear to seeing as you mention two poker related names. Why not for hypothetical reasons call them say A & B.

    But sure if you did that you wouldn't get your little dig in at we all know who :p

    hello Mr Conspiracy. The OP only has 45 posts. Maybe he/she could be given a break and allowed to just ask a straightforward question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭kakak1


    hello Mr Conspiracy. The OP only has 45 posts. Maybe he/she could be given a break and allowed to just ask a straightforward question?

    have no idea how you arrived at that name. :confused:

    Maybe as a Mod :eek: you should have a read of his other posts (poker related). You might notice a common denominator in some of them.

    When you've done that you might then have a read of his signature blog ad, and if you then find it all acceptable you can let me know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭HUSH HUSH


    kakak1 wrote: »
    have no idea how you arrived at that name. :confused:

    Maybe as a Mod :eek: you should have a read of his other posts. You might notice a common denominator in some of them.

    When you've done that you might then have a read of his signature blog ad, and if you then find it all acceptable you can let me know.

    I only asked a simple question, you seem to be intent on making it into something else.

    As for any others posts signature ads etc what relevance have they got to this question.......

    Take a trip to a doctor and get a prescription for your paranoia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭kakak1


    HUSH HUSH wrote: »
    As for any others posts signature ads etc what relevance have they got to this question.......


    My, you have me there, pray tell me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    If the ticket is for a set event the money is in the prizepool. Chips are put out (if players names is down), and if the player doesn't show they are returned at a set point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭HUSH HUSH


    kakak1 wrote: »
    My, you have me there, pray tell me

    How about........


    NONE


    By the way if I was trying to get an angle at someone from this thread ( which you seem to believe I am ) you have been the perfect vehicle for me to do so if that was my intention.



    No doubt you will have another 6 or 7 more little digs without coming up with anything
    interesting

    relevant


    factual


    or intelligent


    So keep taking the tablets and trolling away...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    keep it on topic lads...
    i have my fair share of "issue based posts" but i keep them on topic as best i can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭HUSH HUSH


    Mellor wrote: »
    If the ticket is for a set event the money is in the prizepool. Chips are put out (if players names is down), and if the player doesn't show they are returned at a set point.

    Correct, but what happens when the ticket does not include the registration fee and the event starts and the ticket is unused. The chips won't be put out and the prized fund will not include the value of the ticket.

    Will you get a refund and if not why not?

    If you can get a refund why is there so much panic selling of tickets before events?

    AND before you even bother to type Kakak1 I'm talking hypothetically here and I'm not planning on at a later stage moaning about how I got stuck with a ticket, didn't get a refund blah blah blah. I hope that will dull the craving in your little brain to troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    kakak1 wrote: »

    Maybe as a Mod :eek:

    Am i a mod of this forum? :confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Am i a mod of this forum? :confused::confused::confused:


    Listen for all the big bucks you are on for this modding lark do you not understand that you are only allowed on boards to post nice stuff about posters and to serve the unpaying freeloading members needs?? :confused::confused:;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    FWIW i think its a very valid question the OP is asking, I hope Laf, %( delete all the other stupid sh`tin the post.
    I cant imagine how they could keep yoru momney if you didnt play tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭DEEP THROAT


    FWIW i think its a very valid question the OP is asking, I hope Laf, %( delete all the other stupid sh`tin the post.
    I cant imagine how they could keep yoru momney if you didnt play tbh.


    I once was told by a td that I wouldn't get a refund for a $1000 ticket if I didn't use it. He also was trying to prevent me from playing in the tournament.


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