LG 32 inch for 495 Euro at pixmania

pajoemccracken

LG 32 inch for 495 Euro at pixmania.

32 inch (82 cm) 16/9, "HD ready"
Enjoy the quality and style that can only come from the 32LC52 from LG! This TV has a resolution of a 1366 x 768 pixels and a superb contrast rate of 5000:1, meaning you can immerse yourself in beautifully-coloured images packed full of detail. Besides offering two scart sockets and two HDMi inputs for...


pajoe

IrishMike

Can only output 720p though

kaisersose77

which is all you want for a 32inch


Most ppl now with an lcd dont even have anything HD to watch on it, and even then most of them wouldnt be bothered about 1080p. The only ppl who seem to obsessed with that, are ppl who have spend a few grand on their tv and are trying to justify it.

Keano

kaisersose77 wrote: »

which is all you want for a 32inch


Most ppl now with an lcd dont even have anything HD to watch on it, and even then most of them wouldnt be bothered about 1080p. The only ppl who seem to obsessed with that, are ppl who have spend a few grand on their tv and are trying to justify it.

I have to agree with you.

godtabh

IrishMike wrote: »

Can only output 720p though

It can do 1080i as well cant it

unklerosco

kearnsr wrote: »

It can do 1080i as well cant it

I think anything that does 720p can...

I always find it funny when people say.. "It can only do 720p or it can't do 1080p"

Sounds like they've been listening to a sales pitch from a member of staff at dixons.

Slippin Jimmy

unklerosco wrote: »

I think anything that does 720p can...

I always find it funny when people say.. "It can only do 720p or it can't do 1080p"

I don't think a lot of people realise that 720p is still a form of hd. Hd is designed to improve the quality no matter what level it is at.

dubmick

just shows you how much the prices are coming down, I spent €1200 on 32" LG LCD in January 2006. It is only HD Compatible (whatever that means) and I think I got a discount.

ablelocks

so this tv is decent then?

CuppaCocoa

They're a great tv. I too paid €1200 for a 32" in December 06 :eek:. I've just bought a 19" for the bedroom.

unklerosco

Duffff-Man wrote: »

I don't think a lot of people realise that 720p is still a form of hd. Hd is designed to improve the quality no matter what level it is at.

Exactly, that and at the mo most HD stuff is 720p anyway. Most games for the 360 are 720p, Sky HD is 720p/1080i... Aint sure about PS3 games tho. I know most HD movies are 1080p

savemejebus

unklerosco wrote: »

I always find it funny when people say.. "It can only do 720p or it can't do 1080p"

Why? I mean if you're buying a new TV and spending a nice chunk of money on it why shouldn't you go for 1080p. Especially if you've a ps3 or a blu-ray player. You'd obviously wantto take advantage of their full capabilities.

For a 32" 1080p doesn't make much sense but for 37" and up I can't see much point in buying HD Ready over Full HD.

x in the city

In Japan sales of lcd panels has hit panasonic and other vendors big time, I would expect huge price slashes from larger lcd panels over the next year,
40" and above.

Been reading articles at work about this.

unklerosco

I wouldn't consider €500 to be a nice chunk of money... If i'd €1500 to spend on a TV then I'd be a fool not to go for a 1080p set...

The cheapest 1080p set pixmania do is €1170 for a 32" sharp... Bit of a difference. I just think that 720p/1080p are turning into "buz" words... Most people don't know what the difference is or what they mean... As u said urself, at 32" it doesn't make a difference.. Most say u wanna be at least looking at a 40" before u start to notice it and then 50" up to really notice it..

Its like HDMI, there's loads of comparisons between HDMI and component... Nobody can spot the difference.. But everybody wants HDMI, cause the man in Dixons told them it was better... He'll be the same guy selling the the "1080p" HDMI cable cause the other cable wont show a 1080p pic..

Placebo

what does a 360 need?

savemejebus

1080p tvs are getting a good bit cheaper, there have been sets sold in currys for under a grand recently. I agree that 720p and 1080p are becoming buzz words but at the end of the day there is a benefit in getting 1080p over 720p because although currently there are no plans for 1080p content via Sky I'm pretty sure it won't be too long before it's an option.

On the whole HDMI/Component thing for me, I can see a difference but that's because i think my tv has crap component inputs, hdmi and even vga (at 720p) make my 360 look 10 times brighter and clearer than component at 1080p and i'm probably not the only person in that situation.

Shiminay

Couple of friends of mine picked up a 40" 1080p Bravia for €1400 with a €400 rebate, which was then turned into a PS3. I have seen the PS3 and a 360 Elite running on it and also hi-def movies and it's awesome tbh. I have a 27" 720p Samsung telly myself for my bedroom which acts as my PC monitor and it's benefits are 2 fold: it was cheap(ish) and running games at that resolution means I can turn more of the flashier video settings on as it's not straining my graphiocs card as much as a 1080 resolution.

All in all, as was mentioned elsewhere, there's not a huge amount of difference until you get to the bigger sized tellys and 32" should be fine for 720.

Slippin Jimmy

It's only worth going for the 1080p above 40" in my opinion. For the 32" 720p would be grand.

The LG on pixmania (owned by dsg), is a very good offer. Might think about going for it myself.

unklerosco

savemejebus wrote: »

although currently there are no plans for 1080p content via Sky I'm pretty sure it won't be too long before it's an option..

I think 720p is meant to be a worldwide thing for HD providers... Don't think they'll be going 1080p. Don't think there's anyone in the states doing 1080p, its prob easier n cheaper to do 720p as it eats up less bandwidth...

Canonfan

Can someone explain the difference between contrast rate of 5000:1 and 8000:1, will I notice the difference please?

savemejebus

unklerosco wrote: »

I think 720p is meant to be a worldwide thing for HD providers... Don't think they'll be going 1080p. Don't think there's anyone in the states doing 1080p, its prob easier n cheaper to do 720p as it eats up less bandwidth...

Personally, and this is just me, I think it'll all come down to

1) How they receive the content
2) What the majority of screens support.

Now seeing as most movies and TV shows will be released on Blu-Ray soon it makes sense for film makers and TV studios to shoot in 1080p, no need to reauthor for commercial release. So if the infrastructure is there I'm pretty sure they'll take advantage of it.

Regarding the screens. If you think about it, the people who currently own HD-TVs is still in the minority. Most homes will have a CRT set. As 1080p screens drop in price (as they are doing now and have been since last march -€1799 to €999 for sharp 37XD1E) i think that "full hd" will replace "hd ready" as the lowest standard for HD-TVs and most new screens sold will be 1080p. So when it gets to the stage that HD-TV really hits mainstream I think that 1080p will be what most people get, and so providers will really have little choice but to broadcast in 1080p.

Just my 2 cents tho.

Ghost Train

Canonfan wrote: »

Can someone explain the difference between contrast rate of 5000:1 and 8000:1, will I notice the difference please?

its a ratio (not rate) between the light output of black from the tv to the level of white it can display. higher would be better. manufacturers numbers for contrast ratio usually don't mean much, because different manufacturers will measure if in different ways (and cheat if they can), full on/off contrast ratio which they normally use won't tell you how the tv will show a real picture or compare to another tv, real contrast ratio when the tv is showing a picture with both white and black at the same time will be in the hundreds, maybe something like 1:400 for lcd

only place i'd take notice of contrast ratio is when a magazine reviews displays and measures the contrast themselves

po0k

Canonfan wrote: »

Can someone explain the difference between contrast rate of 5000:1 and 8000:1, will I notice the difference please?

It's marketing bull**** unless you've got soemthing like this
Info: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/contrast-ratio.html

Voodu Child

For a 32" screen, 720p is fine. Unless you're sitting a couple of feet from the TV, you'd be hard pushed to notice the difference.

patch

Can anybody comment on wall mounting this thing?
I'm guessing the stand simply screws off?
Cheers.

Zonda999

I've got one very similiar to this one - LG 32LC46.Got it in the sales for 600.ITs a great tv.It accepts 1080p through hdmi and the contrast is excellent.This one on pixmania looks very similiar

Fnz

Is there a loss of image quality when inputting a 720p signal on a 1366x768 TV like this one - due to stretching?

I'd imagine there would be, unless you had a way of doing 1:1 pixel mapping.

Also, on a 32" screen, 720p may be grand for most things but it probably wouldn't be adequately sharp if you intend to use it as a replacement PC monitor. In my experience, reading text for any length of time is not comfortable on the eyes.

afatbollix

the EU have told that all european tv channels that HD is 720P so all your HD channels and HD DVDs will also be 720P... so thats all you need... 1080I would be the same as its not interlaced...

unklerosco

anto-t wrote: »

the EU have told that all european tv channels that HD is 720P so all your HD channels and HD DVDs will also be 720P... so thats all you need... 1080I would be the same as its not interlaced...

Mwah.... Where'd u get that from??? There's plenty of HD Movies in 1080p, i've a few in front of me now.

afatbollix

they are from the usa??

1080 interlace
720 progressive

progressive give a more film look... but has less lines
while the usa interlance means that it takes 2 passes to make a frame so you get a shutter look... ( what tv looks now if you slowed it down)

Stephen

He said 1080p, i.e. progressive scan.

staker

big quality difference between a 720 samsung/sony and lg screen...

Snake Plisken

Anto-t your talkin crap, I've plenty of HD-DVD's and Blu-Ray's with full HD which is 1080P and most of them are European Discs!

afatbollix

ok lads i was wrong... you can get full hd dvds (1080p) BUT your hdmi cable can only handle 720p:(

roakey

kaisersose77 wrote: »

which is all you want for a 32inch


Most ppl now with an lcd dont even have anything HD to watch on it, and even then most of them wouldnt be bothered about 1080p. The only ppl who seem to obsessed with that, are ppl who have spend a few grand on their tv and are trying to justify it.

people who invest in a ps3 would want a tv with hd output, there is no point having a hd tv unless you have a ps3, sky hd or a bluray/hd dvd player, i thknk they are the only reasons to have a hd tv

kaisersose77

thats what you would think, but its not the case. Most of the ppl I know with an lcd dont have a ps3,xbox 360, sky hd etc. I'd say theres definitely more ppl in Ireland with a HD tv and no HD source than there are with ppl who have a HD source. Most ppl have an LCD because it looks nice! And I wouldnt be suprised if a higher percentage of ps3 owners in Ireland are playing their ps3 on an old crt.


720p is all most ppl are going to need, as most ppl are going to get a 32inch max

Ghost Train

anto-t wrote: »

ok lads i was wrong... you can get full hd dvds (1080p) BUT your hdmi cable can only handle 720p:(

yeah not true, hdmi does 1080p

this tv has the standard resolution for its size and should be fine resolution wise for normal tv viewing (distances), should look great with HD sources and 1080p not really something to worry about on a 32" display.

davidclayton

does the xbox 360 output 1080p or 1080i ?

savemejebus

anto-t wrote: »

ok lads i was wrong... you can get full hd dvds (1080p) BUT your hdmi cable can only handle 720p:(

Sorry dude but someone has been telling you porkies. HDMI does 1080p no problem

roakey wrote: »

people who invest in a ps3 would want a tv with hd output, there is no point having a hd tv unless you have a ps3, sky hd or a bluray/hd dvd player, i thknk they are the only reasons to have a hd tv

Apart from the fact that it's getting next to impossible to purchase a large screen CRT theses days?

kaisersose77 wrote: »

720p is all most ppl are going to need, as most ppl are going to get a 32inch max

I don't think that this is the case, anyone I know who has bought an lcd has gone above 32" simply because they wanted a nice big tv or because in comparison to their old CRT TVs a 40" LCD doesn't take up much more space.

davidclayton wrote: »

does the xbox 360 output 1080p or 1080i ?

The 360 is capable of outputting in all the major resolutions ( 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p) as well as SD depending on your connections and equipment of course.

unklerosco

anto-t wrote: »

ok lads i was wrong... you can get full hd dvds (1080p) BUT your hdmi cable can only handle 720p:(

Do you work in Dixons??? This was what I was talking about earlier... Some people haven't a clue what they're talking about, there's so much misguided information out there its unreal. The HDMI cable has always supported 1080p...



The 360 does 1080p over HDMI and I think VGA...

GrumPy

unklerosco wrote: »

Do you work in Dixons??? This was what I was talking about earlier... Some people haven't a clue what they're talking about, there's so much misguided information out there its unreal. The HDMI cable has always supported 1080p...



The 360 does 1080p over HDMI and I think VGA...

And component if your tv allows it.

ie. Some old Sony 1080p LCDs (KDL-40W2000 for example) wont accept 1080p over component, only HDMI. Newer, higher spec sets like KDL-40V3000 and many other newer model sonys will.

unklerosco

I wasnt sure if component did 1080p on the 360.. I thought it was restricted from the 360 itself, although I wasn't sure if that was changed in an update..

savemejebus

I think DVD and HD-DVD playback is restricted to 1080i over component but gaming is grand at 1080p over component on the 360.

tman

I'd strongly advise against getting an LG tv, I'm still regretting buying mine even though it was only supposed to be a stop-gap before decent 40"+ 1080p sets come down in price.

The HDMI ports stopped recognising my PS3 after a firmware upgrade (which admittedly isn't the tv's fault, but it seems to be due to their patchy HDCP compatability)
The sound crackles a lot, and cuts off completely every now and again (have to switch it off and back on whenever that happens)

Shiny

Here is a nice image highlighting the differences in resolution of
each format. Source (Wikipedia)

Zonda999

savemejebus wrote: »

I think DVD and HD-DVD playback is restricted to 1080i over component but gaming is grand at 1080p over component on the 360.

DVD is restricted to 576p over component.Dont think hd-dvd is restricted whatsoever.Anyway the best way of getting around this is by connecting the 360 using the vga cable(For the ones without hdmi of course).Vga is far superior than component so it'll look sharper for games as well as dvds

savemejebus

yeah dvd is restricted lower, 480p but hd-dvd is 1080i from what i've read

Component:

* HD DVD - 1080i resolution maximum, limited by AACS
* DVD - Upscaled to 480p maximum, limited by CSS
* Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games in the future

from http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/09/21/xbox-360-hd-dvd-playback-maximum-1080i-via-component-1080p-vga/

IamBeowulf

savemejebus wrote: »

yeah dvd is restricted lower, 480p but hd-dvd is 1080i from what i've read


from http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/09/21/xbox-360-hd-dvd-playback-maximum-1080i-via-component-1080p-vga/

480p on the NTSC models as their resolution is lower on their DVDs. PAL DVDs are output at 576p. I can tell you that the DVD playback through Component is pretty shoddy thanks to that damned restriction. Switched over the PS3 and enjoyed my movies in all their upscaled-to-1080 glory!

IamBeowulf

savemejebus wrote: »

I think DVD and HD-DVD playback is restricted to 1080i over component but gaming is grand at 1080p over component on the 360.

Yeah although to further complicate matters, the majority of games on both the XBOX360 and PS3 have native resolutions of 720p, and the consoles just upscale. All XBOX360 games list 1080p on the back but this is a semi-lie---compare them to the PS3 counterparts and note the lack to 1080p there...

eg Dark Sector is 720 on Sony and 1080 on Microsoft???

Anyways all this talk of whether you'll notice the difference in resolution is a little redundant, as the human eye can barely notice a difference on a 32inch, if at all. Besides, contrast ratio and response times are the most important factors in deciding on a panel. No sense on focusing on high-res, when the quality could suffer. I watched Cars on a Panasonic plasma with 1024 x 768 resolution and it far outclassed its higher-res competitors due to fast response, powerful but controlled colour rendition, and excellent black levels.

So far USA broadcasts 1080i on its television stations, there's not enough bandwidth to carry a higher signal. Europe favours 720p. Both have their merits. Sky offers both, although I've read that they upscale alot of content. Also, their charges are prohibitive.

So full hd is overrated and undersupported. Focus on the quality first and save yourself a few pennies or use them to buy a 5.1 system---far more important methinks!

http://www.pixmania.com/ie/uk/620850/art/lg/42ly95-lcd-television.html

42" 1080p

Is this tv worth the 810 euro price tag?

Zonda999

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

http://www.pixmania.com/ie/uk/620850/art/lg/42ly95-lcd-television.html

42" 1080p

Is this tv worth the 810 euro price tag?

No, i dont think so.Its an old model for a start and including delivery its more like 880e.The black level would be well off the current pace as well.Also, thheres no mention on the pixmania link of 24fps playback for bluray which, IMO, is crucial for a 1080p 'set.It may still have it, though.Anyway, i know a few places online where you'l get a better tv than this for less and far superior sets for not much more.Richersounds.com for a start and there are a few UK sites that will deliver over here