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Andy Webster-The new Bosman?

  • 27-02-2008 2:23pm
    #1
    flyswatter
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    Following Andy Webster's contract arbitration result (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Webster) it is possible that Cristiano Ronaldo (for example) could buy out his contract in two years time for the remainder of it (£12million) and leave to join another club. It's something that's entirely possible according to this month's edition of World Soccer magazine.


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  • #2
    Nalz
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    wasnt there rumours that Lampard was going to do this at Chelsea before? This can be done I believe


  • #3
    flyswatter
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    Trilla wrote: »
    wasnt there rumours that Lampard was going to do this at Chelsea before? This can be done I believe

    Yep. I'll continue to use Ronaldo as an example. His current 5 year contract with United began in the summer of 2007 when he was 22. So in theory, he could break it in summer 2010 and join a new club, if United were paid compensation of £12m, the equivalent of his remaining 2 years wages.


  • #4
    PHB
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    Yeh its been possible since last summer.

    Ronaldo can buy out his contract in 2 years if I'm not mistaken (which is why United are trying to tie him down for another extension this summer)

    Heinze could have used it last year but didn't. Lampard can use it this year.

    I'm very hopeful this will have a deflationary effect on the transfer market. As such, a really high profile example of this would be great


  • #5
    flyswatter
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    It gives more power to the players and their agents.


  • #6
    LuckyLloyd
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    flyswatter wrote: »
    It gives more power to the players and their agents.

    Good.


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  • #7
    Guy:Incognito
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Good.



    Why? They allready do as they please at a whim. It's ridiculous. I dotn know why clubs bother with contracts at all, they arent worth **** all at this stage. The players dont have to honour contracts, if they dotn like something or want to leave they just kick up, yet if the club tries to do anything the player doesnt like, as part of the contract or not, there is uproar and the player gets his way.

    The only ones that have to honour contracts are the clubs.


  • #8
    PHB
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    It also gives more power to rich clubs, as they will be able to poach players a lot easier. It's going to drive up wages, which will ultimately result in fans getting screwed over even more than they are currently. That said, go free market


  • #9
    eirebhoy
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    A few players took advantage of this law before Webster.


  • #10
    godtabh
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    eirebhoy wrote: »
    A few players took advantage of this law before Webster.

    Like who? Any house hold names?


  • #11
    eirebhoy
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    Nah. Some guy in La Liga did it anyway. Impossible to google something like that though.


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  • #12
    leninbenjamin
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    any time i've seen this mentioned, the papers have said it can only happen if the player is above a certain age, 27 i believe?

    edit: that can't be right though as Webster's seems to have been only 23 or 24 when he invoked the loophole... that's weird, because i definitely read something about age being a condition.


  • #13
    eirebhoy
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    This is only from recently but:
    Alex McLeish has denied moving for free agent Lamine Diatta after the Besiktas veteran bought himself out of his contract: 'I'm looking at him,' says the Birmingham boss, 'But I haven't done anything.'
    http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2255448,00.html

    Even Hearts signed a player, Ruben Palazuelos, who bought himself out of his contract with his old club.

    There's a particular one I remember reading on the Sky Sports website and it mentions the 15 days notice. Maybe it's just Webster's was the first case to be challenged. Isn't it an EU law anyway?
    leninbenjamin wrote: »
    any time i've seen this mentioned, the papers have said it can only happen if the player is above a certain age, 27 i believe?

    edit: that can't be right though as Webster's seems to have been only 23 or 24 when he invoked the loophole... that's weird, because i definitely read something about age being a condition.
    You can buy yourself out of a contract after 3 years once under 28. Over 28 you just need to serve 2 years.


  • #14
    KdjaCL
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    Would imagine G14 agreed not to do this to each other, doubt any high profile players would do it. The image rights are lost seemingly and you owe the club that plus the remaining contract.


    kdjac


  • #15
    eirebhoy
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    All the articles on the internet seem to say that Webster's the first player to take advantage of the rule. Maybe I'm wrong so.


  • #16
    PHB
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    KdjaCL wrote: »
    Would imagine G14 agreed not to do this to each other, doubt any high profile players would do it. The image rights are lost seemingly and you owe the club that plus the remaining contract.


    kdjac

    Image rights are a big deal. This is to allow people to move to prevent restraint of trade. It's not to allow the players to get whatever the **** they want and dammed the contracts.


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