MTT's on PPP

Headspace

The schedule of mtt's on PPP is excellent. large gaurentees starting all the time I was licking my lips with the thought of returning to the i-poker network until i looked a little closer and saw that almost every tourney has 10 min blinds. 10 mins is not enough and any decent sized tourney would just turn into a crap shoot in the end, e.g. 30 rebuy 20k GP dont players deserve 15 min blinds for this. Stars sets the standard with 15 mins regardless of buy in, i-poker should follow suit what do boardies think?

LuckyLloyd

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dannydiamond

Yup!
The amount and range of tournies are excellent but alas most of the structures suck.They do have some deepstack games though.

Killme00

Isnt 10 minutes online pretty much like 30-40 minutes live?

Headspace

they also need to introduce antes aswell however this is not as important. Keeping their customers happy has to be important to a successful company cant i contact thme from on here long shot i know

BigCityBanker

Headspace wrote: »

they also need to introduce antes aswell however this is not as important. Keeping their customers happy has to be important to a successful company cant i contact thme from on here long shot i know

nhayes@paddypower.com or PM me if you like.

dannydiamond

Headspace wrote: »

they also need to introduce antes aswell however this is not as important. Keeping their customers happy has to be important to a successful company cant i contact thme from on here long shot i know

Did you ever get soaked p1ssing against the wind.
To be fair though they run a business and it's in their interest to speed things up and from the amount of traffic on ipoker the network is obviously very popular.

aarymark

cant agree with u headspace ipoker have it about right as regards there structures to suit the ordinary man .i play the 6.45 and 7.00 freezeouts most nights and there done and dusted by about 11.15 which suits the working man.
why try to change the structures if u want better ,play on stars like u say

Shortstack

Just because the clock is different does not automatically mean that the structure is better or worse. Full Tilt have a a lot of 10 min clock's in their tournaments too.

Here is a direct comparison of the $109 rebuy on Ipoker tonight and the similar offering on Pokerstars. Both have 15 min clocks. Ipoker is 2000 starting and Stars 1500. The addons are 500 more on Ipoker too. Some people may be surprised when they see this:

Jesus Wept

Headspace wrote: »

they also need to introduce antes aswell

Why?

Shortstack

The-Rigger wrote: »

Why?

Because pokerstars have them.

ITT-Pat

Shortstack wrote: »

Because pokerstars have them.

LMAO!

aarymark

in 2006 i played almost exclusively on ladbrooks and it was a great site untill they started to listen to there custumers

dannydiamond

aarymark wrote: »

in 2006 i played almost exclusively on ladbrooks and it was a great site untill they started to listen to there custumers

:eek:

smoothcall

Ive started playing the tournaments on green joker poker (ipoker) alot lately. And i think the structures are fine,and theyres an overlay on most of the tournys. The 100 double stack fo on at 930 i think is a great structure.
I will say the high roller on monday is a bit of a joke for a 500 tourny.
Oh and the standard is imo alot worse than stars..

I do prefer antes in a tournaments but i suppose thats a preferance.

aarymark

the site went down hill catering for the vocal minority,they got what they wanted structure wise ,more chips longer blinds but the result was falling garrantees smaller fields and even the a 60 runners freezeout was taking 4-5 hours

LuckyLloyd

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LuckyLloyd

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aarymark

its not what i like that matters lloyd its what i have time to play on a week night allso i flip very well

smoothcall

ye its a 2000 starting stack i think which is very small for 500. But i don't necessarily think its all about starting stacks.

The problem with allot of tourneys that you get a vg starting stack is that the 1st 3/4 levels are nearly pointless bar picking off fish who have no idea of pot sized bets.

Also The i poker tourneys are a nice change from stars where theres 8billion runners.

Requiem4adream

smoothcall wrote: »

ye its a 2000 starting stack i think which is very small for 500. But i don't necessarily think its all about starting stacks.

The problem with allot of tourneys that you get a vg starting stack is that the 1st 3/4 levels are nearly pointless bar picking off fish who have no idea of pot sized bets.

Also The i poker tourneys are a nice change from stars where theres 8billion runners.

8 billion runners = CHA CHING $$$$$!

I won a $10 freezeout turbo game yesterday on stars, 1296 runners, 2.5k!!! for 10 quid!! i'll have to look into that ipoker $100re though looks good.

Shortstack

At the end of the day it is another case of the general boards view being in the minority*. If you want the fish you need to listen to the fish. The Ladbrokes case is a fine example.

*of course most of your arguments are correct but that does not matter to the majority.

aarymark

Shortstack wrote: »

At the end of the day it is another case of the general boards view being in the minority*. If you want the fish you need to listen to the fish. The Ladbrokes case is a fine example.

*of course most of your arguments are correct but that does not matter to the majority.

are you calling me a fish

dannydiamond

To be fair i think the op is referring to the tournies with 10 minute blinds,but as has been said these probably suit the majority and it seems the majority like them.There are many other options if you want a slower structure both on ipoker and elsewhere.

aarymark,the guarantees were starting to be slashed on ladbrokes long before any changes to structures.

aarymark

sorry danny my rec is that when they changed from 1500 starting stack to 2000 they could not meet the garrentees so cut them

LuckyLloyd

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smoothcall

well the best two software site are ftp and stars. They are also the highest standard prob. Think this is because good players look for good structures and nice software( especially if multi tabling). While the fish just play whatever they play first or whats connected to there sports book.

And i know Requiem i play the 10rebuy about once a week, but its a nice change when u aren't playing for 4 hrs and theres 2000 left.

aarymark

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The only caveat to this talk of fish and guarantees is how Stars can manage to constantly add gradual increases to their structures and still smash their guarantees and increase MTT site traffic? Difference between US and Euro players? Or do the fish just like to gambol anyway?

the same can be said of ipoker guarantees rising all the time more players

Shortstack

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The only caveat to this talk of fish and guarantees is how Stars can manage to constantly add gradual increases to their structures and still smash their guarantees and increase MTT site traffic? Difference between US and Euro players? Or do the fish just like to gambol anyway?

If all Ipoker skins took US players then you would see a similar rising in traffic on Ipoker. Tribeca only had a few skins that took our yankee friends. Look what losing the US players did to Party.

Stars and Full Tilt are the easiest site for Americans to get money on. At the moment the US market is by far the biggest in the world, hence stars size. Obv it is not all down to this, their software and service is pretty good also. But it is definately not down to structures, if anything they might get more players if they reduced the time it takes to play some of their multis (or add more quicker cash multis - most of their turbo's are sats).

RasTa

Requiem4adream wrote: »

8 billion runners = CHA CHING $$$$$!

I won a $10 freezeout turbo game yesterday on stars, 1296 runners, 2.5k!!! for 10 quid!! i'll have to look into that ipoker $100re though looks good.

God I love that tourney.

Headspace

Antes are good because there is more in the pot to begin with and if your winning the blinds and antes more than once a round your stack increases faster, not just because stars has them as someone said. And as well longer blind levels is much better than a double starting stack i-poker only has about 3 tourneys a night with levels over 10 mins, 15 mins may seem a little daunting but believe me it is much much better. Average plrs on stars seem to like it people on i-poker will like it too. The 30 rebuy costs at least 93, why only 10 mins for this even an extra 2 mins makes a difference. Its nice when only 30 plrs remain and avg stack is 20 BB.

aarymark

i dont get it, why change the structures on ipoker to be like stars when u can just play on stars whats the problem.

Mont

10 min blinds are more than enough for an average online MTT buyin - as someone said this is like 40min levels live. Fair enough for the larger buyins like the WSOPE and buyin-in's > 100 they might look at longer levels but < 100 10 mins is fine, jez some of us dont want to be playing an average online tourney for 10hrs. People now seem to be getting a bit carried away with long structures and ever-bigger stacks (live fair enough) but surely 30min blinds online must equate to 2hr blinds live so wtf