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5starpool · 25-02-2008 12:00pm #1

Ok, we allow some sort of advertising where the rules are followed. Once those rules are followed (and we do allow some sort of leeway, as long as the details are all there, but the preferred format is still as per charter), then please do not nitpick with comments such as 'Reg fee too high' or 'I wouldn't play one of your games'.

These comments are unhelpful, pointless and annoying. If you think something is bad then don't go. If it is unclear what a reg fee is or what % is going into the prizepool then by all means ask or report the post (using the red triangle under the username). Unhelpful comments like those above, but not limited to it, will get you warned and posts deleted and a repeat offence will get a 3 day ban, and so on etc.

Post your flame comments here. As of this thread being posted this comes into effect.

Lazare · 25-02-2008 12:04pm

Dom, I would've thought pointing out bad value ie, high reg with no dealers etc.. would be quite helpfull for less experienced people, I'm sure there are lots of lurkers who regularly browse this forum.

LuckyLloyd · 25-02-2008 12:05pm

So, you're giving the organisers free advertising without the right of reply for the forum members? Awesome.

The Clamper · 25-02-2008 12:07pm

Well done sir

i am in full agreement

this may be the best post i have seen here

5starpool · 25-02-2008 12:13pm

I didn't expect this to be popular, but comments like "15 quid, for no dealers? rip off" are in no way helpful at all. There are ways to go about this, and a well put post with some points about how to improve things, rather than a snippy one liner is wuite likely not to fall foul of this rules.

However, there have been a lot of comments, and a lot of them justified, that the poker forum is become a snotty, snippy pace where the first instinct is to put down, and this is one of the main areas of this I think, so I am trying to cut down on it.

Right to reply? Yes. Right to a one line condemnation? No.

Lazare · 25-02-2008 12:20pm

5starpool wrote: »

I didn't expect this to be popular, but comments like "15 quid, for no dealers? rip off" are in no way helpful at all. There are ways to go about this, and a well put post with some points about how to improve things, rather than a snippy one liner is wuite likely not to fall foul of this rules.

However, there have been a lot of comments, and a lot of them justified, that the poker forum is become a snotty, snippy pace where the first instinct is to put down, and this is one of the main areas of this I think, so I am trying to cut down on it.

Right to reply? Yes. Right to a one line condemnation? No.

Fair enough. It read like you were putting a blanket ban on any criticism.

BIG-SLICK-POKER · 25-02-2008 1:21pm

I agree with Dom TBH , Once everything is stated there is not much else an organiser can do and €15 is fine in my opinion for the paddy power qualifier , I am looking from an outside prospective.I mean i get to play poker fpr the day and have a bite to eat for €15 is the way i look at it ..

€100 + €20 would be the min with dealers without touching the prizepool

bops · 25-02-2008 1:44pm

5starpool wrote: »

Ok, we allow some sort of advertising where the rules are followed. Once those rules are followed (and we do allow some sort of leeway, as long as the details are all there, but the preferred format is still as per charter), then please do not nitpick with comments such as 'Reg fee too high' or 'I wouldn't play one of your games'.

These comments are unhelpful, pointless and annoying. If you think something is bad then don't go. If it is unclear what a reg fee is or what % is going into the prizepool then by all means ask or report the post (using the red triangle under the username). Unhelpful comments like those above, but not limited to it, will get you warned and posts deleted and a repeat offence will get a 3 day ban, and so on etc.

Post your flame comments here. As of this thread being posted this comes into effect.

That has to be the WORST op i have ever seen...

you must be referring to me in your op? i didn't make any one-line snipey comments - imo i had a genuine question to ask, and when out of my way to explain my reasons behind it - and i was doing it for the benefit of all the poker members...

I can't question 20% reg fees?
I can't question differing reg fees for the same tourney structure just because the BI is different?

Strange that the CPT get abused for years and nobody says a word...

I am a MEMBER of this board and I have the RIGHT to question whatever i choose to question, as long as I do it in a polite manner I suppose.

You have NO RIGHT to tell me otherwise

go off and have a mods meeting and get back to me...also raise the question of why some mods are closing threads just because they don't like personaly whats being discussed and lock it by calling the other members RETARDS

am i allowed question the op?? probably not??

btw LL's response summed it up way better than this, but it wasn't long enough to be defined as a rant

freedom of expression LOL!! what a joke

LuckyLloyd · 25-02-2008 1:46pm

Btw, I would appreciate if Dev gave his opinion on this.

RasTa · 25-02-2008 1:58pm

bops wrote: »

I am a MEMBER of this board and I have the RIGHT to question whatever i choose to question, as long as I do it in a polite manner I suppose.

You have NO RIGHT to tell me otherwise

When will you people learn that boards is not a democracy. Hail to the king...

Lafortezza · 25-02-2008 2:11pm

bops wrote: »

freedom of expression LOL!! what a joke

Unfortunately you don't have freedom of speech/expression on this website because it's privately owned and Dev+admins can remove a poster from the site for any or no reason.
The admins delegate the day to day running of each forum to the mods, so if you have a problem with us and the way we run things then you need to post in feedback or helpdesk.

I don't read the Tourney section very much since I don't play live but I'll be keeping more of an eye on it to help Dom out from now on.

5starpool · 25-02-2008 2:23pm

Bops, you are mistaken in a few issues.

1. I was not referring to you in my OP. You didn't even post in the thread that sparked me to do this.
2. There is no pretence of freespeech on boards. This has been done to death in the feedback forum. You have of course a leeway to present a reasonable argument if you think something is bad. If you think a reg fee for example is too big then post a reasonable argument as to why you think so. If you (or anyone, but I am replying to you here) post one liners such as "This is sh1t", "15% way too high" or "I think ye are a bunch of cowboys".
3. Boards is not a democracy.
4. Miaow.
5. If you want to take issue with anything I or any of the other poker mods do then please feel free to post in Feedback.

Lloyd- If you want to bring this to DeV's attention then please feel free of course. If I am overruled then fair enough, I'll do what I'm told.

LuckyLloyd · 25-02-2008 2:59pm

5starpool wrote: »

Lloyd- If you want to bring this to DeV's attention then please feel free of course. If I am overruled then fair enough, I'll do what I'm told.

Dom, Laf: I'm not trying to tell on you or turn this into something really childish. For the record, I think you lads and Ste do a great job (fair, reasonable, calm, quality over quantity in terms of posts) and put up with a lot of rubbish from me and everyone. And I realise that you freely give of your time to do it.

That said, Dev has an interest in one of the biggest tournament organisers in the country; it is his site that the free advertising takes place on; and he has long been a proponent of added value and high quality of service for live poker.

So I guess his opinion carries a lot of weight on this matter and I am genuinely interested in what type of feedback should be allowed / not allowed.

Cheers.

bops · 25-02-2008 3:04pm

5starpool wrote: »

Bops, you are mistaken in a few issues.

1. I was not referring to you in my OP. You didn't even post in the thread that sparked me to do this.
2. There is no pretence of freespeech on boards. This has been done to death in the feedback forum. You have of course a leeway to present a reasonable argument if you think something is bad. If you think a reg fee for example is too big then post a reasonable argument as to why you think so. If you (or anyone, but I am replying to you here) post one liners such as "This is sh1t", "15% way too high" or "I think ye are a bunch of cowboys".
3. Boards is not a democracy.
4. Miaow.
5. If you want to take issue with anything I or any of the other poker mods do then please feel free to post in Feedback.

Lloyd- If you want to bring this to DeV's attention then please feel free of course. If I am overruled then fair enough, I'll do what I'm told.

1. Sorry so Dom - I sparked off this debate (re reg fees) afew days back, I've been playing live poker for the past zillion hours with no sleep and am just paranoid and stupidly assumed it was me you were referring to

2. Fair enough, usually when I make comments like you quoted, i try to back them up some way...

3. No? ok in that case plz ban all the tard posters - there's way too many as of late (prob me included)

4. Woof Woof

5. Feedback is like telling the teacher - i'd rather say it to whoever directly

keep up the good work

gl bops (took happy pill @ lunch)

5starpool · 25-02-2008 3:26pm

Lloyd, I wouldn't mind seeing DeV's take either, but until told otherwise I'll continue on my mini crusade. I'm sure I'll lose the will to do it in a few weeks, but I'll try anyways.

Bops, I didn't see that thread, I must go look it up now and probably ban you retrospectively

I take your point about feedback, but we are in general a reasonable bunch. I for one don't mind exchanging PM's with someone if they have an issue. Most things can be cleared without having to resort to crap or tantrums. I can't speak for the oither guys but if you ever have an issue with me or something I do then I don't mind having a talk over PM's about it.

bops · 25-02-2008 3:27pm

5starpool wrote: »

Bops, I didn't see that thread, I must go look it up now and probably ban you retrospectively

lol! in before ban

YULETIRED · 25-02-2008 3:28pm

[SIZE=+0]Be BOP ya looney, be my baby....( there can be only one explanation, women troubles?)

I agree with Dom on this . (pernickiters is a real makeyuppy word, just like the word makeyuppy) Moaning and sniping are bad for the soul. Instead of moaning/ sniping , why not carefully pick out the tournys that represent value to you and ignore the tournys that don't . The value is NOT JUST in the reg fees, to me the whole package is what I look for. Not talking about casinos here....
For instance BS, GJP, JP/VN, offer great value for money. For me a bad value tournament is where the prizemoeny is not 100% visible, the TD is useless, the dealers are bad, the organisers do not give a sht about the players, and the structure is bad... If you suspect this, well stay away. For tournys 100+ down , It's really petty to argue with these organsiers about a fiver, especially if it's a tourny that you know is above board. Joe public will soon stop going to an event if he likes his fiver too much. As for lurkers etc. I don't presume becuase they do not post that they have no clue about value etc. Let's not go mad on this, are reg fees gone out of control or something? I don't see it?

Anyway, the sniping is not just confined to reg fees. It's widespread on this forum, perhaps the most egotistical forum of all (due to the nature of poker probably). I guess every poster should ask themselves if they would say it to the face of the person/retards they are posting about..

As for asking Dev for comments, well that's a bit silly, imagine every forum asked that question...

I just realised that GJP guys are called Dev and Michael, that relationship is doomed I tell ya..

I hereby declare the student population of this country contain a large proportion of the moaning demographic in this country. The Celtic tiger has spawned a sorry lot , we used to export these moaners to far off lands and we would wave at the boats pretending to care, and then we'd head off to the pub with Derby O' Gill and drink our heads off , just like PPP says we did. Orishness for the win....

ahem, did I say I agreed with Dom....(I know kill me) He never answers his PMs either.
I asked for a loan of 2k last year and was completely ignored.. :mad:[/SIZE]

5starpool · 25-02-2008 3:33pm

I think I hurt myself when I fell off my chair just there.

Ste05 · 25-02-2008 4:20pm

Seems fair enough to me. I'm also rather lax at coming in here, but I'll try and come in more to help Dom out too. 1 liners are annoying. If people took the time to explain why something is bad value or whatever then it's much more constructive.

Ste05

nicnicnic · 25-02-2008 4:29pm

BIG-SLICK-POKER wrote: »

I agree with Dom TBH , Once everything is stated there is not much else an organiser can do and €15 is fine in my opinion for the paddy power qualifier , I am looking from an outside prospective.I mean i get to play poker fpr the day and have a bite to eat for €15 is the way i look at it ..

€100 + €20 would be the min with dealers without touching the prizepool

lol i thought you might

bops and Lloyd for posters rights reps

YULETIRED · 25-02-2008 4:33pm

5starpool wrote: »

I think I hurt myself when I fell off my chair just there.

Why? I've agreed with you before, this is not a once off, remember the time you said Liverpool would win feck all this year.....I nodded most vehemently that time.

oops I'm off topic agian.....reg fees are retarded, take the money off the winners prize and give me and bops a cheaper game....

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