G36 Dilemma

Boston · 23-02-2008 12:47pm #1

So I cracked the body of my G36 at the night game. Now I'm in a situation where I have to decide if I should buy a brand new Star G36 and use replacement parts from that, or scrap the star brand and just go with a CA. Even sourcing a replacement star is looking impossible and they seem to be slowly moving away from the G36 model. I really don't want to end up being unable to get simple replacement parts a year down the road. I'm really of two minds on what to do here. Any advice would be welcome.

Hivemind187 · 23-02-2008 12:56pm

If it were me I would go with the CA and salvage the top rail, scope etc from the Star.

If you are worried about replacements the CA is probably the way to go since they make a killing on the G36 and appear to be the only company covering all variants (well, except for the blasted optics).

Puding · 23-02-2008 1:29pm

@er ok almost impossible to get stock spare part and replacement bits for.

Boston · 23-02-2008 2:01pm

I don't know I've heard rumours of them discontinuing the Full length range, and they have definitely stopped producing the red dot optics. At the moment I can get the body parts I need off a standard G36 C, however I don't want to just be throwing good money after bad. That said, If I get a CA most of the parts off the star will no be compatible.

Hivemind187 · 23-02-2008 2:04pm

If I were you, if you still have the shell for the optics - remove the innards if it breaks and replace them with something else (or if like me you tend to regress to a lesser evolutionary form in the presence of tools - get someone like Keith or Dex to look at it).

The fact that Star bits dont jive with CA bits is a little worrying though.

Puding · 23-02-2008 2:05pm

how are they not compatible ?

and they have definitely stopped producing the red dot optics

seems strange as there the only company to produce this unit at the moment, do you gave a link to this info or source i would be interested in find out more.

Boston · 23-02-2008 2:08pm

The optics rail I'm pretty certain will go onto a CA, but things like the front guard and actual body shell have holes in slightly different places(from inspection without actually trying). Also comparing to a tm, they use screws in places where star use these push through bolt things.

Boston · 23-02-2008 2:11pm

wgc have the item marked as stop order, meaning they can no longer obtain it from the manufacturer. Its been like that for at least 6 months.

Puding · 23-02-2008 2:16pm

I've always found the handguards body parts and so forth to be pritty compatible across the board with star and ca being a clone of the tm pritty much with only small differences in dimensions at the most, i have the star and tm myself and i regularly swap bits over, my friend also has the ca and borrows external body parts all the time with no issues, stocks handguards optic rails. what parts are you having problems with or heard about problems with maybe i can try the swap with the parts i have about before you shell out the cash

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Puding · 23-02-2008 2:20pm

Thats wgc they have about 10 different wordings for out of stock

never know whats happening, more than likely its the same as the star ump some time back they ran down the old stock and released a new version with full trades and lots of improvements (wow they may even make it so the red dot is usable :P )

edit: ow i see what you mean your talking about the g36 duel optics rail on its own, yes they have not sold that on its own for some time they make more because people know have to by the full g36 for it

where as the full g36 is just out of stock.

Boston · 23-02-2008 2:25pm

I've cracked both halves of the body shell where it sits into the hand guard. There's a screw for holding the internals to the body and that's where its cracked.

There's two points on the body shell which are screws on the tm/ca version that are those bolt things on the star. I have my doubts about the body of a tm being compatible with a star as a result.

Hivemind187 · 23-02-2008 2:32pm

Boston, you must have hit it a hell of a whack to do that to it.

Boston · 23-02-2008 2:34pm

Tripped and landed on it while crawling my way out of the trench. Broke the barrel receiver as well but that was fixable on the night. **** happens I suppose.

Puding · 23-02-2008 2:39pm

I don;t have the time to swap them at the moment but all the connections are the same the tm, will have to borrow the ca to check that, where is this pin can you take a pic of it?

tm

star

Hivemind187 · 23-02-2008 2:40pm

Boston wrote: »

Tripped and landed on it while crawling my way out of the trench. Broke the barrel receiver as well but that was fixable on the night. **** happens I suppose.

Ouch. Just ouch.

NakedDex · 23-02-2008 2:53pm

Having had the CA and Star G36's I can tell you getting parts for the CA is easier, but there aren't as many types going. As far as I know, Star ceased production on the "Domestic" optics (with the dotsight) as their scope was pretty widely regarded as awful. They only make an Export optic now (no dotsight) but it is better quality.

The materials used in the CA one seemed denser than those used in the Star version or the TM version too. It seems a sturdier unit. Indeed, my CA G36 has seen a couple of trips to the floor inadvertantly and hasn't got a scratch to show for it. The Star one however, scuffed and fractured in a couple of places.

Many of the parts are compatible between the two, I've swapped handguards, rails, butt stocks and other components between the two with zero hassle. You should be easily able to get a CA and use it for replacements on your Star. Or alternately (and what I'd recommend) get the CA and use the Star as replacement parts where and when you need them. The gearbox in the CA G36 is quite a bit stronger than the Star one so it could work to your advantage. The CA optics are excellent as long as you don't need that dotsight. And if you don't then there's quite a market for people who want to buy those Star Domestic Optic rails.

Boston · 23-02-2008 6:27pm

Puding wrote: »

star

I've looked at the video again and the screws I referred to arn't screws, they're a bolt type thing, so things are looking promising that they are compatible. See where the second bolt is on the body, that's where I cracked it. Also, see the barrel receiver at the front, where the black square behind that attaches onto the other black thing, the wield is extremely weak. I'd almost say its designed to fail. Both mine and my friends star g356 failed at that sport.

I think I'm going to take the risk and get the CA.

NakedDex · 23-02-2008 6:52pm

Star uses a push-pin with a lock on it that's actually quite similar to the real thing. These will push through the CA and TM sockets, though they may need some work with a file or a bore out by a 1mm or so with a drill bit. Apart from that, they will fit.

Boston · 23-02-2008 10:13pm

Leidenfrost · 24-02-2008 11:07am

Hey Boston, I noticed your urls had the string ''tcd'' in them, do you go to Trinity?
What course are you doing,
I'm a fresher at the mo.

Boston · 24-02-2008 12:51pm

If you're a first year engineer I'm a demonstrator for you guys.

Boston · 28-02-2008 9:36pm

So I've put in an order for a CA g36 full length. Depending on the quote thats the road I'll go down. Going to use the star as replacement parts, as much as that kills me.

Also put in an order for an mp5 and mosfets for both. Damn this life. I was this close to buying a ca m249.

Hivemind187 · 28-02-2008 9:58pm

lol, I know that feeling.

Cheeky monkey · 28-02-2008 10:07pm

could always get the ca 249 instead of having a g36..........

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