Victory for Blu-ray

AtomicHorror

Strange that nobody has brought this up yet, since the news is a couple of days old!

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm

We win!

Kintarō Hattori

It has been brought up:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055237386&highlight=toshiba+hd-dvd

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055237598

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055239975

Mossy Monk

AtomicHorror wrote: »

We win!

Are you a shareholder in Bluray or something?

311

AtomicHorror wrote: »

We win!

Whats this "WE" business ,paleface ?

edmund_f

as opposed to all those people who bought the HD DVD add on?

nedd

i was getting the train the day before the announcement was made and i saw a guy with a new Toshiba HD DVD player. i was going to go up to him and make fun of him

i think once the price of the PS3 came down there was never a hope for HD-DVD. the fact that people we getting a blu ray player AND a next gen console for the same price as a stand alone HD-DVD player meant more people we going the Blu ray route.

311

I never seen the point in the Xbox Hd add on ,it's just plain akward.
I think microsoft are partly to blame for the problems hd-dvd has.

At least with the ps3 ,you put a disc in and it plays .No need for cables and eyesores.

nedd

your right brian. not including the HD player in the 360 wasnt well thought out. but then again the reason the 360 sold so well in its first year compared to the PS3 was the price difference. and that was mainly due to the lack of HD.

there is talk of the 360 going blu ray now also.

311

I was actually going to buy an Xbox elite around september ,I heard it had Hdmi so all was good.

But it didn't play Hd-dvd's ,so what was the point of releasing it ?

nedd

its weird but i never really considered getting a 360. both my brothers have them since the launch and the games selection is amazing on it but i always knew i was holding out for the PS3 at the right price. i really think it was inevitable that blu ray was going to win.

Kintarō Hattori

_Brian_ wrote: »

I was actually going to buy an Xbox elite around september ,I heard it had Hdmi so all was good.

But it didn't play Hd-dvd's ,so what was the point of releasing it ?

Larger hard drive, it addressed many heat issues, and HDMI capability.

AnCapaillMor

_Brian_ wrote: »

I was actually going to buy an Xbox elite around september ,I heard it had Hdmi so all was good.

But it didn't play Hd-dvd's ,so what was the point of releasing it ?

Same here i remember going into buy it under the impression it had one, so picked up a few hd-dvds, the guy asked me did i have a player, when i heard the elite did'nt have one, told them no thanks and took back my old 360. Maybe MS knew hd-dvd was screwed hence pulling it from the elite.

AtomicHorror

_Brian_ wrote: »

Whats this "WE" business ,paleface ?

"We" being early adopters of Blu-ray via the PS3. And I guess anyone who bought a player up until a few days ago. A risk given the cost. We backed the right horse. It could so easily have gone the other way.

eo980 wrote: »

It has been brought up:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055237386&highlight=toshiba+hd-dvd

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055237598

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055239975

I meant, it hasn't been discussed on the Playstation forum. Is this not also a valid forum to discuss the topic in a slightly different context?

I sense a little hostility in the first few replies. I'm not going for one-upmanship here, just general relief. The Blu-ray aspect was a big part of my decision to buy a PS3.

CiDeRmAn

Personally the headline of the breakdown of support for HDDVD made me think of only one thing, and thats the following


Hooray!!! I can finally buy a copy of KingKong and Transformers on BluRay for my PS3, yippee!!!

Other than that, It really makes no difference at all, I mean for the ordinary man/woman/thing on the street who has yet to buy a high defintion player of any description, so what? I mean it'll just make their choice a little simpler.

Of course the fact that the formats were competing may well have, in time, driven the prices down of the players, now folk are jsut going to run out and buy PS3s!

AtomicHorror

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Are you a shareholder in Bluray or something?

Yes.

AtomicHorror

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Hooray!!! I can finally buy a copy of KingKong and Transformers on BluRay for my PS3, yippee!!!

Transformers is another bonus for me, big geek that I am. Was very disappointed when Paramount went HD-DVD exclusive.

Stealdo

nedd wrote: »

not including the HD player in the 360 wasnt well thought out.
...
there is talk of the 360 going blu ray now also.

Don't think I'd agree with you there Nedd, seems to me that not including HD-DVD was a great decision. Having it included in the console would probably not have saved the format, and now that Toshiba have said that they will no longer produce the drives, MS would have been in some serious doody in so far as any games that had been produced on the format would have been concerned. They can now add in a Blu-Ray drive without having to concern themselves with backward compatability with HD-DVD that would have made the console unviably expensive (based on the prices of combined players). If MS had included the drive and games had been produced in the HD-DVD format and IF (and that ones a big if) it hadn't had any impact on the outcome of the format war, the X-box would have been in serious trouble vs the PS3. Considering all that Sony took a huge punt really on including Blu-Ray with the PS3, but at least they were the driving force behind the format themselves and not dependent to the same extent on the continued support of another company.

nedd

i think if MS had included the hd dvd then becasue it was out about a year before the PS3 lots of people would have been getting it, so the sale of HD-DVD disks would have been majorly up and i really do think it would have made the "format war" a much closer run battle.

but your point about sony being one of the main pushers of blu ray is correct and i think the chances of MS getting into a un-sure format by another company is slim and it looks like they made the right choice in the long run.

Doctor DooM

nedd wrote: »

i think if MS had included the hd dvd then becasue it was out about a year before the PS3 lots of people would have been getting it, so the sale of HD-DVD disks would have been majorly up and i really do think it would have made the "format war" a much closer run battle.

but your point about sony being one of the main pushers of blu ray is correct and i think the chances of MS getting into a un-sure format by another company is slim and it looks like they made the right choice in the long run.

Remember microsoft had no real vested interest in HD -DVD as well, it was just another tool to them to slow down Sony. I am sure they are crying no tears!

nedd

apart from the hd-dvd player add on they built and sold that is now totally useless. but i guess the actuall sales of that were quiet low.

AtomicHorror

It's been speculated that Microsoft's vague support of HD-DVD, without actually committing, was an attempt to fuel the format war for long enough that their digital distribution technologies (eg XBox Live) could come to the point of being a viable platform for DVD quality movie sales/rental. Blu-ray, assuming it is able to take root, is now likely to offer significant competition (by virtue of better picture quality) against such a system for the next few years.

mathias

Back in the day , before PS3 came out and I had a shiny new HD TV , I nearly bought a 360 with add on , but the missus has a rule about all hi fi being black or silver , so she stepped on it.

She wouldnt have it in the sitting room because its too Ugly.

I must thank her for it some day

Stealdo

mathias wrote: »

Back in the day , before PS3 came out and I had a shiny new HD TV , I nearly bought a 360 with add on , but the missus has a rule about all hi fi being black or silver , so she stepped on it.

She wouldnt have it in the sitting room because its too Ugly.

I must thank her for it some day

There's an interesting marketing question I guess, cos my house would be the same - there was no way an xbox or wii would be allowed into the sitting room, but the PS3 is IMO a really nice looking piece of kit. It's big, but under a 40+" screen/stand it's not out of place. For most younger folks I'd say it doesn't matter but for the 30+ crowd who have to get the permission from the boss there must be some lost sales in the looks of the xbox/wii and how much they would stand out beside a Piano black TV.

Anyway that aside...on the MS support question, for me (and I'm sure a good few others) Blu-Ray will be a preferred option to streaming media for some time and it will take a lot of convincing for me to invest in any kind of streaming media. This is simply to do with the stability and reliabilty of the physical disc product. I was around for video streaming over dial up and the words "buffering....2%" hold too many bad memories for me to be happy to consider it.

Varik

downloads need more effort, the more movies you get the more disk space you need on the pc you can get another drive but that's still too much work, what do thet think we will do delete our purchase, so we can buy more

more blu-ray movies more discs no effort