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Carebear11

I (incase you havent knoticed) like to have a good debate thread, i have knoticed lately that we seem to have a distinct lack of such!
So here we go then, in limb design or for ye compounders (just so we all get a look in) cam design, which is better- Hight speed and power or High stability and smoothness? And is it realy possiable to get both in one nice neat package?

Personaly I am very much a fan of hight speed and power, I beleive that it encourages solid form. With very fast powerfull lims I find that the slightest slip is far more magnified than with slower stable limbs. Hence require greater rigidity in form.
Thats my opinion on it, now go forth and debate!

Panserborn

I take the simple approach to getting the best of both worlds - two bows!

With compound for indoors I use a nice stable bow with smooth shot and a totally solid back wall on the cams with a smooth valley. The poundage peaks at 56lbs (pretty light for a compound) but thats pleanty for indoors and the maximum for tuning purposes with 23xx arrows.

Outdoors is a different monster. 60lbs aggressive bow with short valley on the cams - forces me to shoot as solid and unmoving as I can.

So for me its a little from column A and a little from column B, stable and smooth indoors, fast and power outdoors.

Yuppie

Hi

slower does not mean more stable. the longer the limb, and therefore the arrow is is motion before under going "free" flight, the more time flaws in your form and more importantly your tuning have to develope into a "bad" shot.

i've a very fast bow by todays standards(318f/s IBO) and it is very stable due to the bows physical weight, tuning(which i havent done yet ) and limb piviot design and center track cams.

the stablility of a bow set up is decided by its design and tuning rather than its speed/power( i can make a "slow" bow shoot an light arrow very "fast").

as a general rule of thumb(compound and recurve) ive found the following to be true in my case

1.faster arrow speeds=better;less time for things to go wrong, also as carebare said it will show your inconistencies in form very clearly

2.physical weight of bow, heavier end i.e. machined/forged risers=better; the mass of the bow is important in its shot characterist. greater mass = greater inertia and greater predictablilty through the shot.

good examples in compound are hoyts deflex and relex bows. they show classic examples of the pros/cons of these designs.

generally speaking i've found in my recurve shooting that the slower the bow i.e. lower poundage/limb speed the inherently more unstable the bow becomes.

im on a rant at this stage so i pose the question what makes a stable( out of the box ) design for a bow under the following headings?
1. riser design?
2. limb design?
3.Compound cam design?

Renegade_Archer

I'm not sure I know enough about the dynamics to give an absolute explanation.

In my experience, 2214s indoors will shoot well for me, and will generally forgive major form flaws better than the equivalent ACE setup.

However, an ACE setup will forgive minor form flaws better than the equivalent X7 setup...

Carebear11

Well in my opinon stability is more in the limbs, a bows reactivity is more from the riser (for recurve) and of course the bows set up and other factors......

spudnick

i quite like the binary cam howevere the backwall isint as solid as i like but its exteremly forgiving.for indoor i favour a realy solid back wall and a decent a2a lenght however outdoor i much prefer the more forgiving bow over a distance the forgiving bow will come away with the higher score.

My bow is a bowtech guardian set at 56 lbs(thanks ta mac telling me about the spining on the arrows),even with my mini draw of 26 incher it came in at 319fps

archerymad

Carebear11 wrote: »

Well in my opinon stability is more in the limbs, a bows reactivity is more from the riser (for recurve) and of course the bows set up and other factors......

as ive argued with u plenty of times before, i feel a lot of the bows stability is in the riser, and of course the stabilisers,speed comes from the limbs, and the right arrows can dampen the negatives and focus the on the positive aspects of that persons shot.....
its intirely possible in talking bull here...lol