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Wanderlei Silva to middleweight

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  • #2
    Nothingcompares
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    he would be a very welcome addition to the ufc middleweight category. himself and anderson silva could be a very exciting fight


  • #3
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Interesting.. He didn't look small in Pride, but all of a sudden he looks small in UFC. Maybe it's the cameras!

    I think he will clean house at 185.


  • #4
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Im pretty sure he'd clean up most of the LHW division as well to be honest,i can see him smashing Jardine if he fights him.

    If he goes to MW then I can see him being a serious contender there as well.


  • #5
    muckwarrior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Interesting.. He didn't look small in Pride, but all of a sudden he looks small in UFC. Maybe it's the cameras!

    Aren't steroids legal in Japan?


  • #6
    Bidanged
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 ✭Bidanged


    Well he passed the tests when he fought Hendo in Pride in Vegas and he looked alot bigger then than he did against Liddell I hate the way people always claim steroids!


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  • #7
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    muckwarrior wrote: »
    Aren't steroids legal in Japan?

    I'm not sure, but that doesn't mean Wanderlei was taking them.


  • #8
    muckwarrior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I didn't mean to imply that he was a cheat, it's just that I read somewhere that it was standard practice in Pride. Dunno how true that is though.


  • #9
    filament
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭filament


    muckwarrior wrote: »
    I didn't mean to imply that he was a cheat, it's just that I read somewhere that it was standard practice in Pride. Dunno how true that is though.

    there is no testing in japan, as such it's safe to say that most of the fighters where using what they could over there, it would have been fair game


  • #10
    philip graham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭philip graham


    i was only thinking last night how it would be a good move for him to move down. liddle has a wrestling back ground so im sure he cuts alot of weight. silva must cut too but might not be as much. i guess thats why he looked small


  • #11
    Clive
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    filament wrote: »
    there is no testing in japan, as such it's safe to say that most of the fighters where using what they could over there, it would have been fair game

    By that rationale, most Irish fighters are using too...


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  • #12
    Dragan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Clive wrote: »
    By that rationale, most Irish fighters are using too...

    But steroids in Ireland are a controlled substance. Steroids in Japan are not. And if the Org doesn't test and the substance isn't illegal then where is the problem?

    As for Wandy, this will mean an eventual run in with Hendo which is all good as far as i am concerned.


  • #13
    fatjose101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭fatjose101


    i can't see wandy going down to middleweight.
    for one, a fighter of his age would find it alot harder on his body to cut down to 185

    and two, there are too many big fights for him at 205. i mean he can still fight chuck in a rematch or possibly rampage if he wins a few fights. also theres machida and sokudo or even (but unlikely) a fight with shogun.

    i know wandy is a small LH but how come people wern't complaining when he was dominating PRIDE for 5 years!


  • #14
    celt2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭celt2005


    muckwarrior wrote: »
    Aren't steroids legal in Japan?

    Yes, and would be normal to assume are used widely, as they are a legal method of performance enhancement in Japan.


  • #15
    Fozzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    fatjose101 wrote: »
    i can't see wandy going down to middleweight.
    for one, a fighter of his age would find it alot harder on his body to cut down to 185

    The man's only 31! I don't think he's past the point of cutting yet!


  • #16
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Bidanged wrote: »
    I hate the way people always claim steroids!

    Agreed it is silly.

    Wand is only 5'10-5'11 so him making 185 is doable.


  • #17
    Fozzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Agreed it is silly.

    It's not that silly when discussing Japan. Steroids are legal there and they're generally not tested for, so to just rule out the possibility of someone fighting in Japan using steroids is silly I think. It's a different culture, it isn't looked upon as cheating or as a bad thing by the majority of people there


  • #18
    fatjose101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭fatjose101


    Fozzy wrote: »
    The man's only 31! I don't think he's past the point of cutting yet!

    well like nogueira, silva has been through alot of wars in his career and they have taken a toll on his body in someway or another.

    and generally the older a fighter gets the more likely they are to move up in a weight class than drop down.
    Couture did it for a while but by the time he faced chuck the 3rd time, you could see the weight cutting was having an effect


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