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Accompanying drivers

  • 17-02-2008 2:57am
    #1
    bangersandmash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭


    If I go out with somebody with a full licence and they have a few drinks and are over the limit, can they still accompany me or is it the same as driving unaccompannied?


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  • #2
    imeddyhobbs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭imeddyhobbs


    A full licence means a full licence!


  • #3
    stepbar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    imeddyhobbs wrote: »
    A full licence means a full licence!

    Not if the person who has said licence is drunk.


  • #4
    --amadeus--
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    They must be in a fit state to drive:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055176756


  • #5
    imeddyhobbs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭imeddyhobbs


    --amadeus-- wrote: »
    They must be in a fit state to drive:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055176756

    This is a loophole,drive what?a car that he or she is not insured on??

    The law states that you have a qualified driver,the qualified driver does not have to do anything except be present and have a full driving license.


  • #6
    --amadeus--
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    The whole point of having a qualified driver with you is that they are supposed to be teaching you. They are also supposed to be using thier experince to keep you and other road users safe ("slow down here, mind the child, careful that fella is about to pull out", etc).

    If they are not fit to drive then they cannot perform that function so no loophole.


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  • #7
    cee_jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    bangersandmash wrote: »
    If I go out with somebody with a full licence and they have a few drinks and are over the limit, can they still accompany me or is it the same as driving unaccompannied?


    AFAIK its the same as driving unaccompanied - they are not in a fit state to drive the car.
    I know in the UK, that the drunk accompanying driver can actually be done for drink driving if stopped by the police!


  • #8
    ztoical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    cAr0l wrote: »
    AFAIK its the same as driving unaccompanied - they are not in a fit state to drive the car.
    I know in the UK, that the drunk accompanying driver can actually be done for drink driving if stopped by the police!

    + 1 now I'm sure we will have a few on with stories of being pulled over with a drunk friend as their accompanying driver and the cops not saying anything but that doesn't mean that its legal. Cops tend to turn a blind eye to 1st provisional drivers driving on their own and L plates on the motorway still doesn't alter the fact that both those activities are illegal as well. Not saying wither I agree or disagree with any of the above just pointing out that if you do get stopped by the one cop that doesn't turn a blind eye and it ends up in court you won't have a leg to stand on.


  • #9
    cee_jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    I know of someone who was banned because of this! He was in the pub with his son who was on a provisional. he was drinking, the son driving. On the way home were pulled by the police, and the father ended up losing his licence


  • #10
    Stark
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    Was this in Ireland?


  • #11
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,041 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    If the accompanied full licence holder is drunk, the driver is then deemed to be driving unaccompanied.

    cAr0l wrote: »
    I know of someone who was banned because of this! He was in the pub with his son who was on a provisional. he was drinking, the son driving. On the way home were pulled by the police, and the father ended up losing his licence
    If you are claiming that it happened in the ROI, then I don't believe that for one second. It's a myth just like many of the other 'learning to drive' myths.

    The driver could be done for driving unaccompanied but there is no charge that could be made against the father.


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