Ps3 Major Problem!!!

David Phelan · 16-02-2008 2:25pm #1

We have had PS2 for about 4 years.Recently we got PS3 60MB,told all our PS2 Games would work some perhaps better than others.A couple of the ps2 games did work at first and for a while eg,Rugby 08 ps2,simpsons game also.However they have stopped working!!In fact no ps2 games working at the moment.Any idea what's happening and simple solution please??!
thanks.

dts · 16-02-2008 4:19pm

Sounds like the ps2 emulator chip could be goosed. I think I am right in saying the 60 gig had a chip where as the 40 gig uses software?
Give playstation a ring and they will take it away and get it fixed.

David Phelan · 16-02-2008 6:04pm

Thanks for that.Surprised though as only 2 months old and was originally working the ps2 games.Wondering has it anything to do with memory or the way we have saved games?otherwise its on to Playstation!!
Appreciate the help

witnessmenow · 16-02-2008 6:47pm

Irish ps3 never had any chips, it was all software(i think). 40gbs dont play Ps2 games at all. Are your other discs working? What firmware are you using?

yoyo · 16-02-2008 6:54pm

witnessmenow wrote: »

Irish ps3 never had any chips, it was all software(i think). 40gbs dont play Ps2 games at all. Are your other discs working? What firmware are you using?

The 60 gig + 80Gig ps3s have the chip in it man, 40 Gig ones dont, I persume op made a typo of 60MB and meant 60GB! Fyi the 40Gig PS3 wont play PS2 games at all, software emulated or otherwise

Nick

-annex- · 16-02-2008 8:17pm

yoyo wrote: »

The 60 gig + 80Gig ps3s have the chip in it man, 40 Gig ones dont, I persume op made a typo of 60MB and meant 60GB! Fyi the 40Gig PS3 wont play PS2 games at all, software emulated or otherwise

Nick

Nope, only the 20GB and 60GB NTSC versions had the hardware chip, all other versions use software emulation (except the 40GB which doesn't support it at all). Therefore it would have to be a software problem.

elgriff · 16-02-2008 11:34pm

update the firmware to the latest available

AnCapaillMor · 17-02-2008 3:41am

What elgriff i found i could'nt play lot of games until i updated.

mathias · 17-02-2008 8:15am

To clear this up ,

60GB has a chip for emulation of PS2 games , which cannot be done in software.

This is why the 40GB doesnt play them , it hasnt got the Hardware , ( it was removed to reduce costs and drop the console price ) if it could be done in software they would have done it , it would be a good selling point.

All console models emulate PS1 games in software .

So , no PS2 chip , no PS2 games , thats how it works.

On a side note : I put on Star wars battlefront for the kids once , and the drive was chugging away like crazy , the game played fine , but it was really hard on the drive ? It hasnt done any damage but I didnt like the way it sounded ....anybody else notice that ?

monkeyfudge · 17-02-2008 9:04am

No. The PAL version of the 60GB never had the emulation chip in it. It was always software.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS3#Retail_configurations

ongarite · 17-02-2008 11:47am

Sorry monkeyfudge, mathias is right and wiki is wrong.
The PAL 60GB uses a mix of hardware and software to emulate PS2 games.

The PAL 60GB has PS2 EE (GPU) chip on motherboard while the CPU is emulated in software. This is the same as the US, Japanese 80GB units.

Varik · 18-02-2008 9:40am

thank god, ongarite reading all the way down this thread was driving me crazy wanted to kill.

nealmac · 18-02-2008 12:35pm

While all this debating is going on, I'm actually gonna try and help the threadstarter out!

Same thing happened me recently, and I was advised to back up all my data (using the system backup feature) and format the hard disk. Very time consuming, (and there may have been an easier fix) but it worked for me. Just bear in mind you also have to install the latest firmware again, as it will disappear when you format.

Hope this helps

AtomicHorror · 18-02-2008 1:12pm

The PAL 60GB has some of the chips needed for hardware PS2 emulation (the NTSC pretty much has a full PS2 inside it instead), the rest is handled with software. Said chips (the RSX I think) were removed from the 40GB PAL. So it's a mix of software and hardware. I'm sure the PS3 hardware could handle full software-based emulation but there's no plans to implement that afaik.

LegacyUser · 20-02-2008 1:57am

Wikipedia is not a bloody reliable source! Stop using it!

AtomicHorror · 21-02-2008 11:27pm

cheesedude wrote: »

Wikipedia is not a bloody reliable source! Stop using it!

It's been shown by a number of studies to be as factually reliable as the Encyclopedia Britannica. Like any secondary source, it should be read critically. The sources are not for decoration. Wikipedia is a great starting point for research, imo.

whiterebel · 22-02-2008 10:30am

AtomicHorror wrote: »

It's been shown by a number of studies to be as factually reliable as the Encyclopedia Britannica. Like any secondary source, it should be read critically. The sources are not for decoration. Wikipedia is a great starting point for research, imo.

Even one of its founders recently distanced himself from what it has become. Too much incorrect information and too easy to change, he said. He also said he can't believe school kids are using it as their only reference point

AtomicHorror · 22-02-2008 11:28am

whiterebel wrote: »

Even one of its founders recently distanced himself from what it has become. Too much incorrect information and too easy to change, he said. He also said he can't believe school kids are using it as their only reference point

Hadn't heard that statement but as I said, no source should be assumed to be 100% accurate. Critical reading is a skill that should be taught very early- open minded skepticism.

My personal experience of using Wikipedia as a starting point for finding sources for my PhD research is that it is incredibly useful. The vast majority of science articles are well written and accurate. Where I saw deficits, I started to contribute. From what I have seen from the pages I started to maintain, vandalism happens a lot on Wikipedia, sure. But in my experience deliberate misinformation lasts a few hours at most- usually only if it is both very well-written and added by a registered account! Outright profanity or deletion of information tends to last on the order of 30 seconds.

Wikipedia works by the power of the internet nerd. The guy who has to know it all and always be right. There's a whole lot of them and they're anal enough to spend a whole lot of time looking after their pages. The resulting equilibrium results in a good starting source.

AtomicHorror · 22-02-2008 11:43am

PS2 emulation on current PCs seems feasible:

http://www.pcsx2.net/

If some backroom programmers can do it on a PC, I'm sure Sony can get the finger out and do it on a PS3. They just need the motivation. Right now they still seem happy to sell the slimline PS2 though, so I imagine they're trying not to compete with themselves.

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