Muppets running stop signs and merging from hardshoulders on to major roads.

WHITE_P

Anyone come accross this particularly dangerous practice, anywhere else. I've seen it many times lately at the junction on the N2 and R155 from Rathoath, during peak traffic times.

Its only a matter of time before there will be a serious accident on the N2 as the north bound traffic comes to a complete halt due to some idiot merging from the hardshoulder after ignoring the Stop sign on the R155.

Why don't the RSA / authorities position cameras on junctions where this happens to catch offenders and charge them with dangerous driving.

ninty9er

running stop signs fair enough, but do you propose people should merge driectly onto a N route from a halt. What an idiotic suggestion that would be!!

Cionád

There is a merge lane there, as is the one onto the N2 from Dunboyne. People generally stop at the stop sign, then check the road and move into the merge lane and merge safely when their speed matches that of the main road. That stretch is 100km/h speed limit, and there is a bend just to the right as you come from Rathoath so using the merge is far safer than just turning onto the main road.

If people didn't use the merge lane the traffic would never get on that road at peak times.

Alun

ninty9er wrote: »

running stop signs fair enough, but do you propose people should merge driectly onto a N route from a halt. What an idiotic suggestion that would be!!

It's only fair to point out that that's exactly the way it is done in many other countries, including the UK where they generally don't have hard shoulders on their equivalent of N routes (A roads).

ninty9er

Alun wrote: »

It's only fair to point out that that's exactly the way it is done in many other countries, including the UK where they generally don't have hard shoulders on their equivalent of N routes (A roads).

Well we're ahead of the game so. Just because they do it in the UK and elswhere doesn't mean we should follow. Merging directly into 100km/h traffic from a standstill not only presents a LOOOOOOOONNNNNG wait, but is also dangerous. Merging lanes (hard shoulder in some cases) are the safest and most appropriate way of entering a N road

WHITE_P

Cionád wrote: »

There is a merge lane there, as is the one onto the N2 from Dunboyne. People generally stop at the stop sign, then check the road and move into the merge lane and merge safely when their speed matches that of the main road. That stretch is 100km/h speed limit, and there is a bend just to the right as you come from Rathoath so using the merge is far safer than just turning onto the main road.

If people didn't use the merge lane the traffic would never get on that road at peak times.

Actually there is not a merge lane there, they have to drive over a ghost island (painted yellow lines) to get onto the hardshoulder. I think your talking about a different road (particularly as Dunboyne is west of the N3).

WHITE_P

ninty9er wrote: »

running stop signs fair enough, but do you propose people should merge driectly onto a N route from a halt. What an idiotic suggestion that would be!!

So causing a pile up on a single carraigeway National road, because you want to illegally use the hardshoulder to merge, is not idiotic:rolleyes:

Anyway all the other junctions along the N2, north of Ashbourne are laid out in such a way that you have to pull out from a complete stop.

Cionád

WHITE_P wrote: »

Actually there is not a merge lane there, they have to drive over a ghost island (painted yellow lines) to get onto the hardshoulder. I think your talking about a different road (particularly as Dunboyne is west of the N3).

Yes your right, I'm thinking of the N3.

WHITE_P

Merging lanes (hard shoulder in some cases) are the safest and most appropriate way of entering a N road[/QUOTE]

Only where there is a properly designated merging lane, long enough to allow traffic to match the speed of the traffic already on the major road and properly sign posted on the major road. this is not the case where I'm talking about.

WHITE_P

Cionád wrote: »

Yes your right, I'm thinking of the N3.

Doooh:D