phlebotomy courses?

sd123

I was wondering if anyone could give information about doing one of these courses and where it can be done, also, info on price of course, salary etc would be great. I can't find information about it anywhere online, it's very vague.
Thanks

Bui

Its very difficult (a) to find and (b) to get into. I did my research for my undergrad thesis in Biochemistry working on SERT in blood platelets, which meant I had to take blood every day, which meant finding a donor and doctor to do this every time I needed some, and getting them both in the same place at the same time was almost impossible, not to mention delaying what was already going to be a long day in the lab after I had done the blood prep. I researched the possibility of taking a phlebotomy course to get around this problem, and had the same problems as you did.

Last year they were mainly concentrating on training hospital and GP based phlebotomists, but now there is a new certificate you can take run with the national ambulance service college where you can take a certificate in phlebotomy. Website is:

http://www.ciph.ie/first.html

Closing date is 28th Feb. All the info you are going to be able to find on it is on the website, as you found out there is pretty much nothing else out there about it! Good luck!

Bui

This is basically it:

Certificate in Phlebotomy (Pilot) - New Entrant Programme

A Phlebotomist is a Medical Professional who is skilled in the practice of blood collection. The Certificate in Phlebotomy (Pilot) New Entrant Programme is a 21 week training programme that prepares individuals for a career as a Professional Phlebotomist in the Irish healthcare system.
The entry requirements for the New Entrant Programme are as follows, a pass in the Leaving Certificate or equivalent and relevant experience in healthcare. Candidate’s meeting the above requirements will be called for interview in March 2008, on which the final selection will be made. The student will require proof of Hep B immunity, Rubella status and Garda clearance before commencing the programme.

The first section of the programme is delivered through learning via the Internet. Students study from home, using our distance Learning Forum (DLF) and the course text books. Each week they will complete one of the 9 lesson plans on the DLF. On successful completion of the distance learning section of the programme, the students progress to Module 1, which is a 3 week module based at the National Ambulance Service College in Dublin. In this module the student will explore the history of Phlebotomy, the development of current Phlebotomy practices and all the background theory necessary to become a Professional Phlebotomist. The student sits a written test paper on completion of module 1.
Module 2 is also based at the National Ambulance Service College and is 3 weeks in duration. It concentrates on the clinical practice of Phlebotomy using all the various training aids available. The student will be introduced to the 3 main closed blood collection systems used in the Irish healthcare system and will practice coping with Phlebotomy related complications through role play and simulated scenarios. The student must successfully complete a series of Objectively Structured Clinical Examinations (OSCEs) before progressing to their clinical placements in Module 3.

In Module 3 the student will complete two, 3 week clinical placements. Every effort will be made to facilitate the student and assign them to a Certificate in Phlebotomy Training Hospital which is convenient for them. While on clinical placement the student will be under the supervision of a trained Certificate in Phlebotomy Mentor. The student must successfully complete a series of OSCEs during the last week of each clinical placement.

A week after Module 3 is successfully completed, the student will sit one final written test paper. On passing this paper the student will be awarded the Certificate in Phlebotomy.

2Scoops

Bui wrote: »

I did my research for my undergrad thesis in Biochemistry working on SERT in blood platelets, which meant I had to take blood every day, which meant finding a donor and doctor to do this every time I needed some, and getting them both in the same place at the same time was almost impossible, not to mention delaying what was already going to be a long day in the lab after I had done the blood prep.

That's odd - I was under the impression that there is no legal requirement for any official qualification to take a simple venous blood sample - you could have done it yourself... if you had the appropriate set-up.

Bui

To be honest my supervisor was a pain in the ass and made a big deal about it, I did end up doing it myself after the first few months though, I had all the appropriate materials working in a biomed lab amd all that, but she had said to me that I needed to do a course, hence the research into it. I think there might be some legalities regarding employment, getting paid for it without qualification etc etc. Its not exactly difficult to be honest, so long as the patient isnt squeamish!

2Scoops

Bui wrote: »

To be honest my supervisor was a pain in the ass and made a big deal about it, I did end up doing it myself after the first few months though, I had all the appropriate materials working in a biomed lab amd all that, but she had said to me that I needed to do a course, hence the research into it. I think there might be some legalities regarding employment, getting paid for it without qualification etc etc. Its not exactly difficult to be honest, so long as the patient isnt squeamish!

Well, definitely, there has to be some regulation for employed phlebotomists - they do a lot more than venous punctures!

Bad buzz re: your old supervisor.

tallaght01

2Scoops wrote: »

Well, definitely, there has to be some regulation for employed phlebotomists - they do a lot more than venous punctures!

Bad buzz re: your old supervisor.

Do they? I was wondering why there was a 21 week training programme to become one. In the UK, I've only ever seen them doing venous puncture. Do they do other stuff like ABGs etc in Ireland?

Also my HUGE bugbear is that no phlebotomists I've ever come across will take blood from kids. I don't know if that's a problem whereby the paeds departments aren't letting them do it, or the phlebotomists won't do it. It's a total waste of resources to have the SHO and reg bleeding sometimes every patient every day in a hospital ward.

Actually, come to think of it, we once had a phlebotomist who would take heel-prick bloods from babies in a special care nursery in Glasgow, but that was about it.

2Scoops

tallaght01 wrote: »

Do they? I was wondering why there was a 21 week training programme to become one. In the UK, I've only ever seen them doing venous puncture. Do they do other stuff like ABGs etc in Ireland?

Also my HUGE bugbear is that no phlebotomists I've ever come across will take blood from kids. I don't know if that's a problem whereby the paeds departments aren't letting them do it, or the phlebotomists won't do it. It's a total waste of resources to have the SHO and reg bleeding sometimes every patient every day in a hospital ward.

Actually, come to think of it, we once had a phlebotomist who would take heel-prick bloods from babies in a special care nursery in Glasgow, but that was about it.

Well, they don't do much more than venipunctures or cannulations but they need to know how to handle specimens and whatnot. They can't do A-lines, but they do draw off A-lines that are already in. As far as certs go, if they're getting paid to do it, it's nice to know that they've at least passed some minimum training criteria.

It sucks that they don't do children. I never noticed, but I can't imagine what the reason is. They're a bit harder to get sometimes but nothing serious. Easier than an old, fat woman hit & hope any day of the week! Probably some policy to protect themselves legally.

tallaght01

2Scoops wrote: »

Well, they don't do much more than venipunctures or cannulations but they need to know how to handle specimens and whatnot. They can't do A-lines, but they do draw off A-lines that are already in. As far as certs go, if they're getting paid to do it, it's nice to know that they've at least passed some minimum training criteria.

It sucks that they don't do children. I never noticed, but I can't imagine what the reason is. They're a bit harder to get sometimes but nothing serious. Easier than an old, fat woman hit & hope any day of the week! Probably some policy to protect themselves legally.

I agree. The junkies they used to bleed when I did adult medicine were much harder to bleed than many of the kiddies. They also won't touch a-lines in paeds either, which can't be that much more risky than in an adult. I guess neonates are extremely vulnerable to line infection, so maybe they're covering themselves, like you said.

Chunky Monkey

In Beaumont they'll train you apparently but then you have to work for them. I was told that in St James they'll train you and you don't have to work for them after.

Here's a description but it says lab med directorate, I don't know the difference: http://www.loadzajobs.ie/view-job-details.jobs?jobId=1074432

I'm going to pop into James probably early next week to ask them about it, so I'll let you know what they say.

Chunky Monkey

Ah just read the second post properly, looks like you have the info already. My apologies

poppy08

Chunky Monkey wrote: »

In Beaumont they'll train you apparently but then you have to work for them. I was told that in St James they'll train you and you don't have to work for them after.

Here's a description but it says lab med directorate, I don't know the difference: http://www.loadzajobs.ie/view-job-details.jobs?jobId=1074432

I'm going to pop into James probably early next week to ask them about it, so I'll let you know what they say.

hey just wondering how u got on?, i'm looking into phlebotomy doing a course myself and just hoping i could get steal some of you experiences

lostinnappies

I know this thread is old but I thought that I would forward this info. There is another course run by a crowd in UK. They do a weekend course in Dublin occasionally, its a fraction of the cost and half the time. You will need to do the basic and advanced course I believe.

The course run in DCU is probably better but there is no monopoly on which course you HAVE to do. Plus 3k is a bit much for most people to spend along with travel and accommodation and possably child care.

http://www.phlebotomytraining.info/wordpress/

I dont know when the next course for Dublin is but all the contact info is there. Its also accredited by the Open college Network.

Amnesiac_ie

The Certificate in Phlebotomy (Pilot) New Entrant Programme is a 21 week training programme that prepares individuals for a career as a Professional Phlebotomist in the Irish healthcare system.

And all I had was a 20 minute demonstration from a kind SHO who took pity on an incoming intern to prepare me for a year drawing bloods from patients the fully trained professionals found difficult, all "Group and Holds", all ABGs and all intravenous cannulas.

lostinnappies

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