Table Selection

looserock

I've had the software for a while now [eyepoker] but have been just using it for data mining.

Its becoming more apparent to me now that table selection is very important especially as I move up levels.

Could someone explain the best setup for the filters, what am I looking for the lowest pfr, highest vpip, I really dont know, at the moment if I don't like a table I just leave and open another. Any help appreciated thanks.

RoadSweeper

i have mine set for Vpip over 40 and 50bb stack or greater

BigDragon

Also look at using the 'scoring' option where you can assign points to types of players based on their stats and find tables with high scores.

Macspower

vpip 40-100
stack size 50bb-400bb
min number of hands 30

seems to work for me

therealzuppy

Without software, what factors determine best table selection?

Mr.Plough

^^

%players to a flop and av pot size i suppose

cokedrinker

Players choice of alias also... If you see a couple of players sitting at a table whose aliases are associated with rap, you're good to go. (ie. thug life, [SIZE=-1]Upgrayedd etc)[/SIZE]

TheRock

I use eyepoker for datamining.

But with regard to scanning tables, does anyone else find that when you actually get onto a table the VPIP, PFR, Stack Size etc, can change very quickly.
By the time you get on the table its completely different from the one you identified. Especially if there's one or two on a waiting list for the table before you.

If you spot a good table or a couple of Fish, is it even worthwhile joining a waiting list if there is one??

Are you better jumping onto a few tables, see how they pan out for a while then leave the bad ones, stay on the good ones etc.??

Any thoughts or advice.

Mr.Plough

whats peoples' views on sitting on an empty table and letting it fill?

AdMMM

Mr.Plough wrote: »

whats peoples' views on sitting on an empty table and letting it fill?

That's what I prefer to do. With so many datamining and table selection tools out there, the fishiest table at a partciular time are always going to be chock a block with people waiting and by time you get a seat, you're sitting at a very dangerous table.

Table selection software becomes ever more unreliable as it grows to be more popular so sitting down at an empty table ensures that you are going to be seated with the terrible players as they log on as most of them aren't prepared to wait for a seat on the other tables.

With that being said, it can be annoying waiting for them to sit down only to buy in for the minimum!

Van Dice

Mr.Plough wrote: »

whats peoples' views on sitting on an empty table and letting it fill?

shhh, fish don't like waiting lists, and regs are so busy datamining and table selecting that they will never join a table that's just starting

Headspace

this equpiment should be banned. Stars has already done so i-poker should follow suit

zuutroy

I've given up using eyepoker to table select to a certain extent for the reasons mentioned. By the time it scans the whole lobby and you join the tables, its not certain that they'll be anything like what they were when it was scanned.
Now I just open up about 10 tables with highest pot and players to the flop and whittle it down to the best 6 when my HUD stats come up....

phantom_lord

i don't get why i only have a known % of about 70% when i have a database with about 2.5m hands. is eyepoker not 100% efficient or something?

BobSloane

I just look for a free seat with decent stacks on the right. But I nearly always play on party where there's a 50/50 chance the decent stack is a goon

RedJoker

I use
VPIP > 50%
Stack Size 50BBs - 10,000BBs
Hands > 20.

TheRock wrote:

I use eyepoker for datamining.

But with regard to scanning tables, does anyone else find that when you actually get onto a table the VPIP, PFR, Stack Size etc, can change very quickly.
By the time you get on the table its completely different from the one you identified. Especially if there's one or two on a waiting list for the table before you.

If you spot a good table or a couple of Fish, is it even worthwhile joining a waiting list if there is one??

Are you better jumping onto a few tables, see how they pan out for a while then leave the bad ones, stay on the good ones etc.??

Any thoughts or advice.

I'm not looking for the whole table to be soft, that's often awkward for me as it will force me to play very tight. I'm looking for one or two players who are playing over half their hands on a table. SpadeEye gives me a list of fish which I rank according to highest VPIP, I'll go through the list opening each table and joining the waiting list. If the next available free seat isn't one of the 3 seats to the fish's left then I won't sit and instead rejoin the waiting list. If the fish leaves then I close the table. This keeps tighter players on my left and loose players on my right, this allows me to steal the blinds more and isolate the fish as much as I want. It also allows me to play a wide range from UTG and MP because the tighter players behind will usually fold and the fish will often call from the blinds.

phantom_lord wrote:

i don't get why i only have a known % of about 70% when i have a database with about 2.5m hands. is eyepoker not 100% efficient or something?

With a database this size you should be opening all tables where you have very few known players. The good players are likely to play more often and are almost guaranteed to be in your database. The bad players, however, will often just deposit once, blow their money in a few hundred hands and won't play again for a long time (if at all). These are often the softest spots and you should be opening these tables and taking a seat or letting it datamine in the background (I don't think EyePoker has this feature though). With SpadeEye I'll very often have 4 tables that I'm currently playing on, 1 or 2 I'm on the waiting list for and another 5 or 6 tables where everybody is unknown datamining in the background. I'll then check back on these tables in half an hour and usually find a ton of fish and very few regs.

TheRock

RedJoker wrote: »

I'm not looking for the whole table to be soft, that's often awkward for me as it will force me to play very tight. I'm looking for one or two players who are playing over half their hands on a table. SpadeEye gives me a list of fish which I rank according to highest VPIP, I'll go through the list opening each table and joining the waiting list. If the next available free seat isn't one of the 3 seats to the fish's left then I won't sit and instead rejoin the waiting list. If the fish leaves then I close the table. This keeps tighter players on my left and loose players on my right, this allows me to steal the blinds more and isolate the fish as much as I want. It also allows me to play a wide range from UTG and MP because the tighter players behind will usually fold and the fish will often call from the blinds.

Thanks for that, sounds like good advice. Not how I'm currently selecting, but must give it a go.