SPOILERS POSSIBLY [THEORY] The Losteis seem to be at the......

stevejazzx

SPOILERS POSSIBLY

The Losteis seem to be at the......the north pole!
Here is the evidence for the north pole:

Polar bear
Snowglobe
Snowman joke
Hurleys igloo painting
Arts reference to antarica
The em montioring station
Magnetism and the poles
Submarine arrival and extraction becasue of ice, (Juliet was drugged)
The freak rain conditons
The people on the boat who took walt were wearing cold gear.
Michaels drawing for walt of the Penguin with a sunburn
Walts comic book
Scaled down geodesic dome inside the swan
Kelvin (name means absolute zero, -271)
Green lantern comic is named after the phenomena of the northern lights
Lift up your eyes and look north
The bearing 325 leads us to believe that the LOSTies are somewhere effected by a strong EMF that messes with compasses. IF they are at/near magnetic south, this bearing could be true north and lead michael/walt out of the loop into open ocean.
No birds on a tropical Island (hurleys bird is the monster)

Finally, someone on the fuselage put his together, it looks a bit contrived but I reckon it's a genuine clue:
Hurleys 'I saw him by the ho hos' coupled with the fact that Jack only makes a H-O (shooting hoops with hurely) in the same episdoe, which gives us HO HO HO and I'm sure everyone knows what that means.

Possible explanation for the weather:

*They arrived on the island in september - thats the artic spring, now keep in mind that the island is on/off the artic coast. The majority of ice is taken care of right there. So, lets go on to say that this EMF is so large that it reaches into the upper atmosphere. This would cause all surrounding weather to go around the EMF rather than over it. The suns rays would then go right on into the EMF dome causing the temperature to increase drastically within the area. Thus our tropical climate is born

FredsWebHead

Compelling.....:cool:

How do you explain the fossilised remains of a dharma polar bear in northern african desert of tunisia?
Thunder storms are made of negative and positive charges within and around the atmostshpere. An EM field would greatly effect a storm in fact having none at all. And we do have them in Lost.

Charlie

Interesting theory and possibly backed up by the fat that Penny's team seem to be based in the North Pole.

However, it strikes me that such a conclusion to the show would leave alot of people dis-satisfied, too big a risk for the writers.

There's a good chance that the writers haven't decided on the ending/basis of lost but, throw these things into episodes (knowing someone will spot them) and gauge the reaction on the net.

stevejazzx

FredsWebHead wrote: »

Compelling.....:cool:

How do you explain the fossilised remains of a dharma polar bear in northern african desert of tunisia?
Thunder storms are made of negative and positive charges within and
around the atmostshpere. An EM field would greatly effect a storm in fact having none at all. And we do have them in Lost.

Storms and rain may be controlled (for the most part) by dharma - the blast doors map talks about them controlling weather conditions

As for the fossilised remains
I can't explain it!

but there might be an expalanation to with Dharma experiments (the blast door map has a bit on the polar bear in tropical climates) .. there may lso be an extra dimnesional element going on...

stevejazzx

charlie mchugh wrote: »

However, it strikes me that such a conclusion to the show would leave alot of people dis-satisfied, too big a risk for the writers.

There's a good chance that the writers haven't decided on the ending/basis of lost but, throw these things into episodes (knowing someone will spot them) and gauge the reaction on the net.

...but I didn't draw a conclusion, just a location!

Charlie

stevejazzx wrote: »

...but I didn't draw a conclusion, just a location!

But I would imagine that Lost being based in the North Pole would be large part of its conclusion/ending. Maybe i'm wrong.

Sinfonia

charlie mchugh wrote: »

But I would imagine that Lost being based in the North Pole would be large part of its conclusion/ending. Maybe i'm wrong.

I would have thought so.
It would answer Charlie's infamous pilot episode question: "Guys...where are we?"

monkeyfudge

You do realise that the Antartic is the south pole, yes?

stevejazzx

monkeyfudge wrote: »

You do realise that the Antartic is the south pole, yes?

yes...should be artic coast (above)..oops..btw it's also apparently warmer at the north pole! odd..

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env279.htm

geuro

You do realise that the 'Antartic' is spelt 'Antarctic', yes?

stevejazzx

geuro wrote: »

You do realise that the 'Antartic' is spelt 'Antarctic', yes?

Yep I did in fact that was a typo...I spelt it rigth the second time in my original post! I've edited it now to artic. I was reading between the differences between north and South just before I posted, must of had antarctic in my head..

monkeyfudge

stevejazzx wrote: »

Yep I did in fact that was a typo...

I think he was refering to my typo there..

It's a sound enough theory... I like the submarine bit. But I don't think you need to try and lump so much in there.

Penguins wouldn't have anything to do with the North pole for instance. And you certainly wouldn't have any temperatures approaching kelvin.

Also I don't see how the plane could have gotten quite that far off course.

dan_y

OP, how do you imagine they got to the north pole? I'm not trying to be a smartass but the plane was flying northeast from sydney to los angeles, and I don't think a plane - even of that size - woud have enough fuel to make it to the north pole. so are you saying they were rescued while unconscious and planted on the island? or that the planet somehow slingshotted the plane north? and bear in mind that as far as the Others are concerned, they literally saw the plane break up and smack down onto the island - which is just could not have reached three hours after take off, had it been in the north pole.

stevejazzx

monkeyfudge wrote: »

I think he was refering to my typo there..

It's a sound enough theory... I like the submarine bit. But I don't think you need to try and lump so much in there.

Penguins wouldn't have anything to do with the North pole for instance. And you certainly wouldn't have any temperatures approaching kelvin.

Also I don't see how the plane could have gotten quite that far off course.

I was thinking about the Penguin bit alright but it still more or less pointed in the same direction. Kelvin might just be a slight referecne to 'cold' thereby a cold climate/location, or it might be a more specific reference. I've always thought that Kelvin was a very intentional name for that character though, there was also previous link to cryogenics..
The plane thing can be covered in many ways, for example if there really was a cover up like we saw in season 4 ep 02 (wrong/fake pilot recovered from the wreck) then it looks like the losties were on another plane entirely.
Anoter theory that I like is one that they went through some kind of wormhole on the plane, Damon said there was a 'dimensional' aspect to the show and Greg Nations asked people on the fuselage to figure out the 'time' problem and with FBYE epsiode I think it's very possible there is a time thing going on.

stevejazzx

dan_y wrote: »

OP, how do you imagine they got to the north pole? I'm not trying to be a smartass but the plane was flying northeast from sydney to los angeles, and I don't think a plane - even of that size - woud have enough fuel to make it to the north pole. so are you saying they were rescued while unconscious and planted on the island? or that the planet somehow slingshotted the plane north? and bear in mind that as far as the Others are concerned, they literally saw the plane break up and smack down onto the island - which is just could not have reached three hours after take off, had it been in the north pole.

well ep s4 ep 02 seems to imply a conspiracy, a fake 815 plane and a pilot. So the losties may have been on the real 815 plane which was bound for somewhere else...It is thougt that losties were collected or selected and brought to island - Desmond leaving the hatch unmanned casuing their crash is the sticky part of that theory though. It (how they reached the island) may have also have happened in an time/dimensional
way. The magnet may have pulled them through some kind of warp and into the island long before we see them breaking up over the island. Given that the island is hidden from detection and a sonic sub appears the preferred method of choice for the others there may well be something that needs to be 'traversed' in order to get to the island.
also in terms of time, weren't nearly all the losties 'out' when the plane crashed...kate was an exception I think...Maybe they all drank spiked OJ like Juliet? A bit far fetched but withon the realms of possibility...

dan_y

um, we saw the plane crashing in the first couple edisodes - everyone was awake and screaming, didn't seem "out". it just seems like a lot of your theory is based on leaps from information that could mean almost anything. and there is a lot of evidence that points to them simply crashing on an unfindable island in the pacific.

PullMyFinger!

I think you may be on to something

Mr.Nice Guy

Interesting theory I have to say but a few things don't sit with me. Firstly, the animals. We've seen boars, bees, weird spiders, a horse, cattle, a cat, chickens. Surely it's stretching things a bit to suggest these animals could be living in that region of the world?

Also, what about the statue of the four-toed foot? Doesn't that indicate that there was a society in place on the island? Again surely it's stretching things to suggest we've missed out on a society that's been living in the North Pole.

With that said, I'm not totally dismissing this idea just trying to work out some doubts I have with it.

stevejazzx

dan_y wrote: »

um, we saw the plane crashing in the first couple edisodes - everyone was awake and screaming, didn't seem "out". it just seems like a lot of your theory is based on leaps from information that could mean almost anything. and there is a lot of evidence that points to them simply crashing on an unfindable island in the pacific.

actually most of them (kate excepted) were out on impact, the screaming and shouting happens while still in the air...it's explained somewhere else I'll find it for you...
in terms of where they are i would guess it has something to with dimensions as a lot of the show seems to heading that way...they have gone to great lenghts on the show to hint at the north pole for some reason, I imagine the evidence for that is almost overwhelming at this stage?

stevejazzx

PullMyFinger! wrote: »

I think you may be on to something

i have linked it in the op...hey it's old theory but it now seems very much on!

stevejazzx

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Interesting theory I have to say but a few things don't sit with me. Firstly, the animals. We've seen boars, bees, weird spiders, a horse, cattle, a cat, chickens. Surely it's stretching things a bit to suggest these animals could be living in that region of the world?

Well if it's an experiment, the Island is sustained artifically by Dharma, I wouldn't have a problem really with that. They control weather systems etc which infers artificiality the much like 'truman show' for example.

Also, what about the statue of the four-toed foot? Doesn't that indicate that there was a society in place on the island? Again surely it's stretching things to suggest we've missed out on a society that's been living in the North Pole.

With that said, I'm not totally dismissing this idea just trying to work out some doubts I have with it.

well I reckon the statue is a remnant of an ancient society. something to do with evolution probably. apparently the north pole used to be tropical...some poeple think the answer is a hollow earth idea and the entrance lies through a place located at the north pole..this is also very possible imo