Nourkrin Nationwide product recall!

schvattings

Greetings?

Just wondering if anybody out there knows anything about the Nationwide product recalling of the Nourkrin hair recovery line??

Very suspicious, eh?

And nobody in the shops or chemists can shed any light on the situation and the recall is right across the entire Nourkrin range ...

Hhhmmmmmmmm .....

Mewzel

hi ya,
nourkrin isn't being recalled, it is being replaced. the company that supplies nourkrin to ireland have decided to stop supplying it to introduce a new, almost identical product called viviscal. viviscal should be available in ireland within the next 2 weeks, and there will probably be lots of special offers to coincide.

as far as i know, nourkrin used to be manufactured in the states and the quality was very high, but they changed production to china and tests showed the quality of the nourkrin produced there was way below expected quality. thus the supplier have decided to switch over to viviscal. unfortunately they were the only nourkrin supplier for ireland so you won't be able to get nourkrin here any more, but will still be available in th UK etc.

hope that helps!

Sugar Drunk

ah no way I use nourikin does that mean I cant get it anymore??? Is that viviscal stuff any good?

Mewzel

yeah it means ya wont be able to buy it here any more! i just started using nourkrin myself last month so its total pain in the posterior!
viviscal as far as i've heard is as good as the nourkrin extra strength, but i think viviscal will only be produced at this strength. i.e. there won't be any maintain strength

Sugar Drunk

ah feck how much do you wanna bet this viviscal stuff will be more expensive too grrr. im off to by me my nourikin on ebay thank god for UK sellers....


whats v interesting to me is mewzels post. I used nourikin few yr back for a recurring problem with my hair and it was fantastic. Used again recently and it was not near as good I wonder if this was because of the change in production location

Filan

I took Nourkrin hoping that it would regrow my bald patch....and while it didn't...it did substantialy strengthen my remaining hair....which wasn't so bad...have purchased Regaine ...but not used it...at some point I will.

Just had extensions today to cover the patch and the have done a good job...

Where is a good source to buy Nourkrin on-line incidentaly? As you say one would eventualy need a medium sized loan to follow it in the shops.

Hope all are well

A

_Whimsical_

Funny, someone was talking about this product earlier and talked turned to wondering if it strengthens and improves hair growth on your head does it do so on the hair on your body also?
I've regularly seen it in the chemist and I thought it for skin problems.

Mewzel

they do also have a similar product called 'nourella' for skin, its meant to be anti-aging.
what i want to know is, they say that viviscal will be as strong as the extra strength nourkrin, but do they mean the extra strength produced in america or in china? cause if there is enough of a difference in quality to switch over surely it would be because the viviscal is better quality you would think? but im guessing they'll just make more profit from this one...

Filan

Personaly I feel that the whole hair regrowth industry is extortion. It isn't true to say that nothing works....some do a bit...for some people....but that's it really...The really strongest drugs such as Finasteride , Dutaseride and even in some cases regaine can have side affects. For a reasonable chance of substantial coverage a Transplant is the best option....in which case it would be much better value for money to go abroad.

Within a decade though new hair's will be harvested from one's own cells....I've heard time frames ranging from 3 to 20 years....but regardless of time that will be the eventual solution.

Actualy for the record I see nothing wrong with Hair Systems....or hair pieces or wigs for that matter...some of which are excellent and indistinguishable from natural hair. Only underdevloped minds will deride that...if hair matters to you and makes you happy...then I see nothing wrong with a such.

schvattings

Cheers for the input guys, guess we'll just have to wait & see if the new stuff is any good!

S.

speedboatchase

Rogaine Foam 5% twice a day and 1/5 of a Fincar (the same dosage as Propecia) tablet daily. Will do wonders

Filan

What is Fincar? and is it prescribed here? I asked my GP about Finasteride and he was clueless..surprising as it's very commonly used elsewhere ....as Romario knows!

Won't try any lotions until my extensions are removed....2-3 months....then I intend to see whether Minoxidil or other treatments owrk..if they don't there is always Hair Systems.

speedboatchase

Fincar, or Proscar (same product really) are tablets of 5mg Finasteride. Propecia comes in 1mg but is much more expensive. So basically buy a pack of 24 or more and a pill cutter, then split the pills into 5 pieces.

http://www.inhousepharmacy.co.uk/hair-loss/proscar.html

Thats Proscar there, which I was using until they were out of stock, then I stocked up on some Fincar. It seems expensive but remember a pack of tablets will last you at least 120 days (24x5)

EDIT
Fincar is actually much more affordable. Site is trusted, I used them before

http://www.inhousepharmacy.co.uk/hair-loss/fincar.html?PHPSESSID=fade7287ab4a47a995be0cb1b4a8b4b9

Filan

Are they safe to take without medical supervision though?. I've no doubt that in most cases they probably would be fine.....but I'd prefer consultation with a medical person in case something did go wrong...loss of libido..etc..I will however not your details as to where they can be purchased....and consider my options. I do see a Therapist who is in contact with an Endocrinologist..she said that she will ask the Endocrinologist about it...

Thanks
A

speedboatchase

All the information I got was from the HairLossTalk forums on the site of the same name. I know that doesn't sound too assured but trust me, the regulars on that board are incredibly well informed. There are side affects who affect a small minority (loss of muscle tone of a result of eostrogen, loss of libido) but all side effects pass once the products is no longer used. In other words, the chances of you experiencing side effects are small, and if you do, discontinue use and you'll be fine. Good luck either way

Filan

Thanks....

Haro84

I was looking for Nourkrin on saturday & the chemist in Hickeys Pharmacy said it was off the shelves coz their changin their name, he didnt mention anything about having a different strength once it comes back in stock.

i use this product as i have a condition called trichotillomania, has anybody else got that, i don't know of anyone.

Filan

I was never actualy given an official diagnosis....but I've been told that I probably have Psioriasis...and sore...and times highly iritated scalp...and around that time my hair started to receed...Nourkrin did help...but long term if I do want a decent head of hair I know I'll require something more....... as a last resort a Hair system eventualy...

Incidentaly I did see Vivisical advertised on the window of a Limerick pharmacy yesterday but when I went inside it wasn't on the shelves....just one lonely looking Nourkrin packet....I suspect they may be trying get rid of all their Nourkrin before dsiplaying Viviscal.

Leac Bhoy

has anyone ever used crescina for receding hair line, is it any good?

Realnews

Mewzel wrote: »

they do also have a similar product called 'nourella' for skin, its meant to be anti-aging.
what i want to know is, they say that viviscal will be as strong as the extra strength nourkrin, but do they mean the extra strength produced in america or in china? cause if there is enough of a difference in quality to switch over surely it would be because the viviscal is better quality you would think? but im guessing they'll just make more profit from this one...

Nourkrin is available in all pharmacies ( Ask your pharmacist to get it for you) and has the same active ingredients as used in it's clinical trials. It is the only hair supplement with closed double blind placebo trials to prove it's efficacy!

Viviscal is an old product based on out dated studies from 1992. It makes a claim to have more marine protein than it's competitors. an argument saying that more protein equals a more efficient product is nonsense. One of the pilot studies made by Professor Allan Lassus in 1992, attached, which study Lifes2Good uses as documentation actually supports the argument that protein is irrelevant since it clearly follows from said study that the placebo used – was Fish Protein Hydrolysate (FPH) or fish meal. Fish meal contains no less than 70% protein. The study clearly shows that the placebo had no effect at all on temporary hair loss.

Nourkrin has never been with drawn by the manufacturer. The old irish distributor ran out and launched it's new own brand and they have confused customers into believing the information which you have listed above!
I am inclined to agree with your last line!!

Haro84

i havnt been on this in a while, i tried Viviscal for about 5 months, and its great for thinning / hair loss. First of all the hair i have got alot thicker, and where i had balding patches, my hair grew a few inches by about the 3rd / 4th month, (and my hair grows real slow), iv took a break from it, but iv recently ordered another 3 months supply. Id recommend it to anyone with hair problems, thinning hair, alopecia, trichotilomania etc.

misswex

How long should you take these products before you see results as I used Nourikin for 4 months and saw no difference. And these products are quite expensive.

Haro84

i used to take Nourkrin too but i thought my first packet tasted horrible, i heaved taken them. Then Viviscal came out before Xmas i think, so i bought some online on Lifes2Good website, i get the 4 for price of 3 for €178 approx and free shampoo, they are expensive but with that offer u save 59Euro, and they dont taste bad or have an odour! Depends how bad a state ur hair is in to want to buy them, an my hair is patchy. Iv been using it a while now and i seen results deffo in 2nd / 3rd month. id recommend u buy online, the chemists dont seem to do the offers of 4 for price of 3. i ordered my latest ones off Lifes2Good by phone at end of last week, an received them by post today.

Filan

Actualy am seeing reasonable results with Minoxidil (Rogaine) after 3 months....definitely some regrowth. Minoxidil is at least proven to work in about 40% of cases. I'm not sure if the same can be said for Viviscal/Nourkrin. Rogaine can also be applied to a specific patch whereas Viviscal cannot.

Poirot

I would be wary of taking any hairloss pill as some of these (e.g. Finasteride) are reported to reduce mens libido :eek:.

I use Minoxidil - same as Rogaine but at a fraction of the price - I get it from an Irish website www.hairagain.ie.
3 months for 39 Euros.

Within approx. 3 months hair loss stopped and regrowth started.
I don't have a full head of hair and don't really expect to, but I have more now than I did 5 years ago !

dotsman

Poirot wrote: »

I would be wary of taking any hairloss pill as some of these (e.g. Finasteride) are reported to reduce mens libido :eek:.

I use Minoxidil - same as Rogaine but at a fraction of the price - I get it from an Irish website www.hairagain.ie.
3 months for 39 Euros.

Within approx. 3 months hair loss stopped and regrowth started.
I don't have a full head of hair and don't really expect to, but I have more now than I did 5 years ago !

As far as I'm concerned, any website that doesn't have it's company information on the site is just one big fraud. Specially one selling something like a hair loss solution (impossible to tell if you receive the real thing). It could be watered down, a cheap fake or worse, it could be something that might actually cause you harm.

And the fact that they don't bother even trying to allay any fears over their legitimacy (and the fact that the website looks like it was designed by a 6 year old) really sees me shaking my head.

At the very least, I would want to see the Postal Address, Company No. have it reviewed by reputable sources etc before I hand over a cent.

Johnny Utah

Haro84 wrote: »

i used to take Nourkrin too but i thought my first packet tasted horrible, i heaved taken them. Then Viviscal came out before Xmas i think, so i bought some online on Lifes2Good website, i get the 4 for price of 3 for €178 approx and free shampoo, they are expensive but with that offer u save 59Euro, and they dont taste bad or have an odour! Depends how bad a state ur hair is in to want to buy them, an my hair is patchy. Iv been using it a while now and i seen results deffo in 2nd / 3rd month. id recommend u buy online, the chemists dont seem to do the offers of 4 for price of 3. i ordered my latest ones off Lifes2Good by phone at end of last week, an received them by post today.

Hey Haro,

Are you taking Viviscal maximum strength or regular at present?

Do they taste better than nourkrin?

The reason I ask is because I tried nourkrin last year before it was withdrawn. I found it really hard to swallow those nourkrin tablets- they tasted disgusting. Eventually, I managed to take take nourkrin for 3 months last year, but stopped because I didn't see much improvment in my hair and they tasted horrible.


I'd be willing to try viviscal if they tasted better than nourkrin.



Thanks

mark mccarty

PRESS RELEASE 11/9 2008

NOURKRIN® Wins intellectual property infringement case.

On 8th September 2008, the Danish Western High Court upheld a ruling from the Bailiff’s Court of Kolding, Denmark of
26th November 2007 in favour of Pharma Medico International ApS, owners of the NOURKRIN® Trademark, stating that
the trademark NOURISEA infringed NOURKRIN® and that a former licensed manufacturer has misused trade secrets.

The facts of the case were:

On 12th October 2007, Irish Response Ltd., trading as Lifes2Good Ltd., applied for the trademark NOURISEA in the EU.
A former licensed manufacturer of NOURKRIN® offered to manufacture the “NOURKRIN” product range for Irish Response
Ltd., trading as Lifes2Good Ltd., under the name NOURISEA, using trade secrets it had previously obtained through
manufacture of NOURKRIN®. Subsequently, Irish Response Ltd., trading as Lifes2Good Ltd., ordered the manufacture of
significant quantities of NOURISEA products.
On 12th November 2007, the Bailiff’s Court of Kolding, Denmark, issued an injunction towards the former licensed manufacturer
and seized significant quantities of boxes and finished goods bearing the name NOURISEA at the premises of the
former licensed manufacturer cf. below.
Morten Christensen, CEO of Pharma Medico International ApS said, “As the legitimate owner of NOURKRIN® in the EU,
we were confident that we would prevail in this case. We believe that the High Court’s ruling sends a strong message to
those who continue to make false representations to consumers and the industry regarding the NOURKRIN® brand.”
The Court’s granting of a summary judgment motion is part of Pharma Medico’s International ApS’s ongoing efforts to
aggressively investigate and follow up infringement of its intellectual properties, and eliminate counterfeit versions of its
products from the marketplace.
Following the ruling Pharma Medico International ApS is now in the process of quantifying the total financial claim for damages.

Pharma Medico International ApS will actively continue to pursue any such cases through the proper legal channels.

Pharma Medico International ApS was successfully represented by Lett Law Firm, Denmark; one of the five leading law
firms in Denmark.
NOURKRIN® with MARILEX® is an award-winning food supplement which stimulates hair growth.

Morten Christensen / CEO

Pharma Medico International Graven 25B DK-8000 Århus C

Tlf.:

Johnny Utah

Haro 84, pm sent.

jellybeans

hi there doing a bit of research here for my boyfriend...he's starting to get a little baldy patch :eek: does Regain work? just wondering what the best product may be for thinning hair on the cap of his head, has anyone had success with any product in particular and could you educate me on the whole world of bladness products...many thanks

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