clothes sizes

Sam Vimes

clothes sizes

I went to buy some clothes the other day. I have a 34 inch waist so naturally I was trying on 34 inch jeans but not one pair fit me. Some of them didn't come close to closing and others were like clown trousers on me. I tried on a t-shirt that was supposed to be XL and it didn’t even cover my stomach. I’m 5’8”, hardly XXL but that’s the size I had to get. I have no idea what a 6’5” person would do in that shop.

My question is: are clothes manufacturers living in biblical times when people measured things in cubits?

Do they think we live in munchin land where 5’8” is considered XXL?

Do they understand the concept of an inch and if so, why do they write “34 inch waist” on a pair of jeans that doesn’t have a 34 inch waist?

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Rob_l

have you measured your waist since xmas?

Sam Vimes

Rob_l wrote: »

have you measured your waist since xmas?

i took off the pair of 34 inch jeans i was wearing to try on the new ones. and the 34 inch jeans in various shops varied from cutting off the circulation to clown trousers. they can't all be 34 inches

Rob_l

Commander Vimes wrote: »

i took off the pair of 34 inch jeans i was wearing to try on the new ones. and the 34 inch jeans in various shops varied from cutting off the circulation to clown trousers. they can't all be 34 inches

I get the same some 32's fit perfect others I need nearly two of me to fill them

ruprect

I have a 33" waist and can fit in 30" jeans.

Sizes have dropped continually over the years. A woman is more likely to buy a size 10 dress than a size 12 if they are both identical in every way. People like to think they are smaller.

It even has a term "vanity sizing"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_sizing


You hear people saying "marylin monroe was a size 16", or size 12, 14 whatever, but back then that size was way smaller.

connundrum

I don't know whether this is a Fashion & Appearances or PI problem.

Oh and clothes manufacturers pull sizes out of the air, there is no standard size from what I can tell.

Come back the days of everything being small, medium or large - and actually being small, medium or large.

kaimera

Jaysus Vimes ya big girl

Sam Vimes

connundrum wrote: »

Oh and clothes manufacturers pull sizes out of the air, there is no standard size from what I can tell.

i think i should go to every clothes manufacturer with a measuring tape, show it to them and say "look at this bit between the 1 and the 2, that is an inch. if you make a pair of jeans, you should find out how many of these little things fit around the circumference of the jeans and write down that number on the section marked "waist". you should not pick whichever number you like. its not a raffle

if i bought a 12 inch ruler and it was 14 inches long i'd be fairly pissed off. i don't see why clothes manufacturers should be any different. if it says 34 inches and its 36 inches, would you have a case for a refund since the product is not as described?

kaimera wrote: »

Jaysus Vimes ya big girl

i used to be a size 34. *runs away crying*

humanji

I've noticed this and it really pisses me off. I was a "large" when buying shirts and t-shirts. I was trainging for a hike I was doing and lost a load of weight. Went into town to get a couple of shirts and only XL would fit me in some places.

And I HATE the crappy shirts that are standard size at the shoulders, but taper down to a fraction of the size at the waist. Seriously, are all these shirts aimed at people who were girdles?

I say we ignore the Scientology protests and protests against those cheap ass sweatshops that are making these badly designed clothes. Those kids need a smack!

Lukekul

This kinda thing really gets on my nerves, being 6'6'' it's a bloody joke.

I takea XXL T-shirt which I'm fairly sure are only a legend in Ireland.
Shirts aren't too bad actually 18'' is fairly common.

But Jeans are stupidly hard to get here, I wear a 38'' leg and haven't bought a pair of jeans in Ireland since 2006.

Don't get me started on tracksuit pants........:mad:

Dragan

It's alright Vimesy,

i'm with you on this one. It can be pretty hard for to get clothes that freaking fit at the best of times......harder when the shops are lying to me.

I don't even bother going into shops like Jack and Jones, Pull and Bear etc any more....i don't know what kind of skinny jean wearing nancy boys they are catering to but when i can't even get my arm into their XXL shirts....let alone my ****ing shoulders....i just don't know what the world is coming to.

Message to clothes manufactures.....stop making clothes for how you wish people were.

Message to modern day males.....go eat something and stop this skinny jeans business....you look like a tool.

Sam Vimes

Dragan wrote: »

I don't even bother going into shops like Jack and Jones,

the "XL" t-shirt was in jack and jones now you mention it

Dragan wrote: »

Message to modern day males.....go eat something and stop this skinny jeans business....you look like a tool.

QFT

MikeHoncho

Its all sized for continental nancy boys. Not spud and and steak munching real men like us. Whenever im in the states I notice the exact oposite is true. I have to generally go a size down in everything.

I havnt been able to shop in Pull and Bear, Jack and Jones or Zara in about a stone.

Lux23

My brother is actually a bit underweight yet he still has to buy a XL in Zara. Im the opposite though because I have more of a european shape and their clothes tend to fit me better than Irish shops. I always find Awear jeans and trousers awful.

Earthhorse

Hey, why y'all gotta hate on your skinny bros, yo?

Honestly, it's no better being a small size. I've a 28" waist (least last time I checked) but if I wear 28" inch jeans I fear all the blood will congeal in the upper half of my body and I'll eventually explode. The problem also seems to be the proportions they make jeans in; small waists with ridiculously long legs or giant waists with ridiculously short ones.

I bought an extra small top in Topman at the weekend and it's the first thing I've bought in years that is a tight fit. I also bought a small top in there and it fits well. On the other hand the small top I bought in Debenhams hangs a little loosely on me.

Over the years I've found Levis to be the best brand when it comes to clothes that consistently fit well. Their small is exactly that; small, but it hangs off your frame well and doesn't make bizarre assumptions about your shape. This goes for their jeans and tops. Not sure what they're like for other sizes though.

chopperbyrne

I find this all the time too.

I'm not particularly tall (5'11") or big.

Apart from a bit of a belly I've developed over the past year I'm quite skinny, yet I often have to buy large size tops.

I should be a medium at most.

Blisterman

I find the complete opposite, with some clothes.
I'm 6' 2, medium build, and I have several items that fit me fine, in small.

Canterbury Rugby Jersey's being one. Also A+F Hoodies.

ScumLord

Clothes sizes really annoy me. I hate shopping, being in shops, and especially hate trying things on. The amount of times I've gotten home to find the tshirt is more of a belly top or some clothes manufacturer is using finger lengths in stead of rulers. I once bought a 4x shirt in TKMax thinking it would be what it says on the hangar, 2x.

I think they should all be thrown in jail, false advertising, it is.

Commander Vimes wrote:

I took off the pair of 34 inch jeans i was wearing to try on the new ones.

But they probably stretched with you over the crimbo.

chopperbyrne

Blisterman wrote: »

I find the complete opposite, with some clothes.
I'm 6' 2, medium build, and I have several items that fit me fine, in small.

Canterbury Rugby Jersey's being one. Also A+F Hoodies.

I'd imagine rugby jerseys are designed with larger people in mind though.

Blisterman

Well, looking at the irish rugby team, it looks like they all got a few sizes too small.

http://www.irishrugby.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/5163264.jpg

Earthhorse

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I'd imagine rugby jerseys are designed with larger people in mind though.

Yup.

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I'm not particularly tall (5'11") or big.

Apart from a bit of a belly I've developed over the past year I'm quite skinny, yet I often have to buy large size tops.

I should be a medium at most.

You sound large to me! I'm 5' 2" and skinny. That's small. From around 5' 6" to 5' 9" I'd regard as medium. From then on it's large, XL, XXL, etc.

I don't think medium is meant to mean regular; it's just a size in between small and large.

jdivision

Our L is an XL on the continent and so on. That may explain some of the disparity. That and fact that as others said sizes in general have changed as retailers try to persuade us we're still the same waist we were five years ago and it's only the gut above that that's changed.

dade

finally someone with teh same problem as me. i buy most of my jeanes in th Us coz they are dirt cheap. size wise i'ma 38 waist. no problem getting them they fit fine and are actually pretty loose. but a 38 in Ireland? not a chance, i've tried 40s from burtons and they wont come close to fitting me. and as for Zara, nor an XL T there a year ago and couldn't even pull it down over my shoulders.

TerrorFirmer

I had this problem one day when I made the mistake of buying a cheap pair of Jeans in Pennys. I was wearing 32" jeans, and knowing the crazy sizes in there, I took a 34" just to be sure. Got home - they wouldn't come near to closing.

Another of the hates is t-shirts with baggy chest/shoulders that transform into a belly top when reach up in any way.

Earthhorse

HavoK wrote: »

I had this problem one day when I made the mistake of buying a cheap pair of Jeans in Pennys. I was wearing 32" jeans, and knowing the crazy sizes in there, I took a 34" just to be sure. Got home - they wouldn't come near to closing.

Ah now, the problem here is that you didn't try the jeans on in the shop. Whatever about tops and t-shirts, where I'm sometimes willing to take a risk, jeans always need to be tried on for size.

MikeHoncho

Another retailer I wanted to mention as guilty in this is Bertoni. I cant get into their XXXL shirts where as all my other shirts are either an L or XL.

cance

maybe you've stretched your current 34's?

may i suggest a salad and a brisk run?

Donald-Duck

5'7 and I'm usually a small/medium in clothes depending on the shop

Edit: 28/30" waist.

Edit again, wrong height

Sputnik

Well, looking at the irish rugby team, it looks like they all got a few sizes too small.

http://www.irishrugby.co.uk/wp-conte...09/5163264.jpg

They're probably made of a wicking material to move the sweat away from the body. They have to be close fitting for it to work properly.

I having the exactly the same problem. Bought some cheap ass jeans in 34 a couple of days ago. They're a tad snug. Bought the same cheap ass jeans six months ago and they fit fine, and I've lost weight in the meantime.

Ross_Mahon

I am 32 waist, 32 Leg

I fit into most large sizes in shops, but sometimes i have to get XL because the way they make them.

skywalker

Commander Vimes wrote: »

Do they understand the concept of an inch and if so, why do they write “34 inch waist” on a pair of jeans that doesn’t have a 34 inch waist?[/rant]

Thats really friggin annoying, Im noticing it more & more, in fact I was only bending a friends ear about it in the sales. Mens waist sizes are marked in inches, becasuse were not women, just give us the sizes that it says on the tag.

Its particularly annoying because you now cant trust the size marked, you have to try every pair on.

Sam Vimes

cance wrote: »

maybe you've stretched your current 34's?

may i suggest a salad and a brisk run?

ah but there were 34 jeans in the shops that were too big for me. but a brisk run never hurt anyone, except maybe jim fix

razorblunt

I was in New York over new years almost every xl shirt, tee, coat, hoody fitted me over here xl is too small and sometimes even xxl is too small then you get the terrible fitting xl stuff it ridiculous. Whoever sizes the clothes in places like Jack and Jones and Topman would need their head sorted.

Malteaser!

My size varies from shop to shop, at this stage I know which shops have nice fitting jeans etc so tend to just shop there.

rubadub

razorblunt wrote: »

I was in New York over new years almost every xl shirt, tee, coat, hoody fitted me over here xl is too small

Yeah, I like long arms and usually go for XL here, I got a ralph laruen sweatshirt in NY XL and it is like a tent, I do not like clothes shopping and trying on stuff, so just picked it off the peg. I would always try on jeans though.

clothes also change with the average population. I checked sizes on lidl wetsuits which should be a good fit, I was shocked to find I was a "small".

Blisterman

razorblunt wrote: »

I was in New York over new years almost every xl shirt, tee, coat, hoody fitted me over here xl is too small and sometimes even xxl is too small then you get the terrible fitting xl stuff it ridiculous. Whoever sizes the clothes in places like Jack and Jones and Topman would need their head sorted.

Well, most top man customers seem to be stick thin androgonous guys with floppy fringes, and girls jeans.

Sawa

Dragan wrote: »

It's alright Vimesy,

i'm with you on this one. It can be pretty hard for to get clothes that freaking fit at the best of times......harder when the shops are lying to me.

I don't even bother going into shops like Jack and Jones, Pull and Bear etc any more....i don't know what kind of skinny jean wearing nancy boys they are catering to but when i can't even get my arm into their XXL shirts....let alone my ****ing shoulders....i just don't know what the world is coming to.

Message to clothes manufactures.....stop making clothes for how you wish people were.

Message to modern day males.....go eat something and stop this skinny jeans business....you look like a tool.

I think skinny jeans on guys is really great, hot legs ftw!

Donald-Duck

Sawa wrote: »

I think skinny jeans on guys is really great, hot legs ftw!

The only guys that can wear them are stick men. I didn;t know bones were so attractive

Alessandra

How do the razorlight brigade(men in skinny skinny jeans) get so skinny? Thier legs are like matchsticks. Totally fem. Not very attractive in a man IMO.

Xavi6

Sawa wrote: »

I think skinny jeans on guys is really great, hot legs ftw!

Don't you mean chicken legs ftw? Anyone who can and does wear their younger sister's jeans looks ridiculous.

34" waist ftw. Average size for a 6 footer I'd say

leninbenjamin

i'm currently wearing a pair of size 34''. perfect fit. I also have a size 32'', and they are also a perfect fit. so is the 30''. i also have a pair of size 33 that are so big for me i can't actually wear them without a belt. i also have a pair of size 32 that are the same story, yet i have another pair of 32 that i can't fit into anymore.

i stopped trying to make sense of it all long ago.

Xavi6

leninbenjamin wrote: »

i'm currently wearing a pair of size 34''. perfect fit. I also have a size 32'', and they are also a perfect fit. so is the 30''. i also have a pair of size 33 that are so big for me i can't actually wear them without a belt. i also have a pair of size 32 that are the same story, yet i have another pair of 32 that i can't fit into anymore.

i stopped trying to make sense of it all long ago.

Exactly I'm split between 32 and 34 so just try it on before buying. If it fits who cares what the label says?

FunkZ

I'll agree with ya on jeans, they never fit comfortably (except Gap!) but t shirts, hoodies, tracksuits and all are great...

randylonghorn

So this thread is basically Vimes on a rant because someone has been under-estimating his inches?

Sam Vimes

randylonghorn wrote: »

So this thread is basically Vimes on a rant because someone has been under-estimating his inches?

they all underestimate my inches. then i show them my inches and to apologise for being so rude as to underestime my inches, they all suck my inches. its very weird to see all these hot women sucking on my jeans tbh

randylonghorn

Commander Vimes wrote: »

they all underestimate my inches. then i show them my inches and to apologise for being so rude as to underestime my inches, they all suck my inches. its very weird to see all these hot women sucking on my jeans tbh

I bet! Must be a bit sad too to reflect that they never seem to want to do it when you're actually wearing them ...

Sam Vimes

randylonghorn wrote: »

I bet! Must be a bit sad too to reflect that they never seem to want to do it when you're actually wearing them ...

this is true.....*crys*

themole

Xavi6 wrote: »

Exactly I'm split between 32 and 34 so just try it on before buying. If it fits who cares what the label says?

If the label does not match then whats the point of the label?

Terry

razorblunt wrote: »

I was in New York over new years almost every xl shirt, tee, coat, hoody fitted me over here xl is too small and sometimes even xxl is too small then you get the terrible fitting xl stuff it ridiculous. Whoever sizes the clothes in places like Jack and Jones and Topman would need their head sorted.

I'm in the same boat.

The choices in Ireland for someone who is XXL are very few.

I got stung with the U.S. sizes too, after buying off the net.
A few washes sorted it out though.

Lukekul

It's seems to me that the only solution to our problem guys is to Boycott clothes until the shops stock the right sizes,

yeah that's right, a naked protest, lol see how long it lasts until they give in ha ha.:D